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 Nostromodamus wrote:
In the rules for Transports, when one is destroyed the occupants disembark and you roll a die for each model. On a 1, that model is slain. .

Important to note that while you do roll a dice for each model, sixes only slay A model, not THAT model.

You roll for all embarked, and get to apply wounds to the chaff units.

Space marines now fighting over who gets to hold the melta gun when they get inside the rhino

 davou wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
In the rules for Transports, when one is destroyed the occupants disembark and you roll a die for each model. On a 1, that model is slain. .

Important to note that while you do roll a dice for each model, sixes only slay A model, not THAT model.

You roll for all embarked, and get to apply wounds to the chaff units.

Space marines now fighting over who gets to hold the melta gun when they get inside the rhino

Good catch! But it is 1's that kill, not 6's. Same chance though.

 davou wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
In the rules for Transports, when one is destroyed the occupants disembark and you roll a die for each model. On a 1, that model is slain. .

Important to note that while you do roll a dice for each model, sixes only slay A model, not THAT model.

You roll for all embarked, and get to apply wounds to the chaff units.

Space marines now fighting over who gets to hold the melta gun when they get inside the rhino

Or when the dude with the Meltagun dies, his squad doesn't just leave the Meltagun on the ground, but pick it up and keep going.

Now, when the Sergeant strangely keeps out of harms way while his dudes keep dying, that is another story. I guess that is the substitute for Look Out Sir.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Or when the dude with the Meltagun dies, his squad doesn't just leave the Meltagun on the ground, but pick it up and keep going.

wait where did you see that?

 davou wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Or when the dude with the Meltagun dies, his squad doesn't just leave the Meltagun on the ground, but pick it up and keep going.

wait where did you see that?

They were abstracting what the rule represents.

 davou wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Or when the dude with the Meltagun dies, his squad doesn't just leave the Meltagun on the ground, but pick it up and keep going.

wait where did you see that?

What the above poster said.

Surprised people are upset by the vehicle explodes rule. I guess for Terminators and 2+ armoured friends its bad but for MEQ its about the same and for everyone else it is considerably less lethal than before.

Ha! I now feel good about my lack of transports.

tneva82 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Another alternate to the Gravraider. This one goes for a "more is more" approach.

Spoiler:

That HAS to be joke right? Compared to that first is downright sensible and beautifull.

How same company can produce death guard and that...thing...

Is this real?

Pity the poor Chaos transports, one stray shot from a combi-plasma will not only nuke the transport in one shot (regardless of the vehicle!) but also carries the 1/6 chance of evaporating a passenger

Huh? Dont transports have multiple wounds?

 Megaknob wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Another alternate to the Gravraider. This one goes for a "more is more" approach.

Spoiler:

That HAS to be joke right? Compared to that first is downright sensible and beautifull.

How same company can produce death guard and that...thing...

Is this real?

No, they forgot to swap the Techmarine for a Mek.

 Megaknob wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Another alternate to the Gravraider. This one goes for a "more is more" approach.

Spoiler:

That HAS to be joke right? Compared to that first is downright sensible and beautifull.

How same company can produce death guard and that...thing...

Is this real?

Yep. Totally 100% legit.

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:
Huh? Dont transports have multiple wounds?

Yeah, I assume they are either unaware of the new vehicle stats or just being hyperbolic. Unless they got a hold of the dreadclaw rules early and those are made of tissue paper or something.

 nintura wrote:

 Megaknob wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Another alternate to the Gravraider. This one goes for a "more is more" approach.

Spoiler:

That HAS to be joke right? Compared to that first is downright sensible and beautifull.

How same company can produce death guard and that...thing...

Is this real?

Yep. Totally 100% legit.

Yep. And there's an even more upgunned variant that adds a pair of overhead missile racks and a hull-mounted demolisher cannon, per my GW source.

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:
Huh? Dont transports have multiple wounds?

Gets Hot removes the model, no wounds, no saves allowed.

Chrysis wrote:


Exploding vehicles now deal Mortal Wounds, so Terminator or Grot you die all the same.

Terminators have 2 wounds. The odds of 1 dying is 11%.

 nintura wrote:

 Megaknob wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Another alternate to the Gravraider. This one goes for a "more is more" approach.

Spoiler:

That HAS to be joke right? Compared to that first is downright sensible and beautifull.

How same company can produce death guard and that...thing...

Is this real?

Yep. Totally 100% legit.

You guys are tremendously bad at spotting gakky photoshopping.

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:
Huh? Dont transports have multiple wounds?

Yes, but in their wisdom, CSM decided it would be cool to strap combi-weapons onto their vehicles. As combi-weapons were meant for infantry, the combi-plasma removes the "model" on a roll of a 1, unlike most vehicle based plama which does 1 mortal wound on a 1. TL;DR: Don't strap combi-plasma to your CSM vehicles, and if you do, don't overcharge it.

Wait - vehicles don't ignore the 'gets hot' part of plasma in 8th edition?

 JimOnMars wrote:

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:
Huh? Dont transports have multiple wounds?

Gets Hot removes the model, no wounds, no saves allowed.

Pretty sure that's not universal and depends on the datasheet. Remember that of the weapons used by the unit is listed, so they can make it different for each unit.
You also have the option of making it supercharged; you dont have to roll for gets hot.

 Alpharius wrote:
Wait - vehicles don't ignore the 'gets hot' part of plasma in 8th edition?

They do not. Plasma weapons that are intended to go on vehicles all do 1 mortal wound on a to hit of 1 (as far as I've seen). EG: Helbrute Plasma Cannon does 1 mortal wound on a 1.

 JimOnMars wrote:

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:
Huh? Dont transports have multiple wounds?

Gets Hot removes the model, no wounds, no saves allowed.

Does it remove the transport? As in, if I had a stern guard squad in a rhino, and one of them shot a plasma weapon out the top hatch, and I rolled a 1 for my Gets Hot!, would the rhino be removed?

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:

 JimOnMars wrote:

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:
Huh? Dont transports have multiple wounds?

Gets Hot removes the model, no wounds, no saves allowed.

Does it remove the transport? As in, if I had a stern guard squad in a rhino, and one of them shot a plasma weapon out the top hatch, and I rolled a 1 for my Gets Hot!, would the rhino be removed?

You can't shoot out of a Rhino.

skarsol wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Wait - vehicles don't ignore the 'gets hot' part of plasma in 8th edition?

They do not. Plasma weapons that are intended to go on vehicles all do 1 mortal wound on a to hit of 1 (as far as I've seen). EG: Helbrute Plasma Cannon does 1 mortal wound on a 1.

The Leman Russ Demolisher's Plasma Cannon sponsons flat out destroy the tank if any of the to hit rolls are ones.

skarsol wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Wait - vehicles don't ignore the 'gets hot' part of plasma in 8th edition?

They do not. Plasma weapons that are intended to go on vehicles all do 1 mortal wound on a to hit of 1 (as far as I've seen). EG: Helbrute Plasma Cannon does 1 mortal wound on a 1.

Except the Primaris Rhino, Leman Russ Demolisher and Leman Russ all have plasma weapons which will kill the model on a 'To Hit' roll of 1 when supercharged.

The Razorback's plasma also destroys it.

 Asmodai wrote:

skarsol wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Wait - vehicles don't ignore the 'gets hot' part of plasma in 8th edition?

They do not. Plasma weapons that are intended to go on vehicles all do 1 mortal wound on a to hit of 1 (as far as I've seen). EG: Helbrute Plasma Cannon does 1 mortal wound on a 1.

The Leman Russ Demolisher's Plasma Cannon sponsons flat out destroy the tank if any of the to hit rolls are ones.

Hah, nice. Interesting that that one is actually on the data sheet and not an artifact of referencing an external table like the CSM issue.


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 Ghaz wrote:

skarsol wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Wait - vehicles don't ignore the 'gets hot' part of plasma in 8th edition?

They do not. Plasma weapons that are intended to go on vehicles all do 1 mortal wound on a to hit of 1 (as far as I've seen). EG: Helbrute Plasma Cannon does 1 mortal wound on a 1.

Except the Primaris Rhino, Leman Russ Demolisher and Leman Russ all have plasma weapons which will kill the model on a 'To Hit' roll of 1 when supercharged.

Obviously a rhino shooting overcharged plasma was OP so they had to balance it.

Razorbacks with the Lascannon and Twin Plasmagun can blow themselves up as well.

The real question is, when you overheat a plasma weapon on a transport, do they still Explode?

Interesting enough the Land Speeder Vengeance's Plasma Battery (had to double check on that) does not destroy it but does 3 mortal wounds to it.