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2017/06/07 09:18:53
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 6th June 17: Vox-Cast (behind the scenes) episode 1+2 (all info in OP)
Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: So after decades of rumours and fans wishing for a plastic Thunderhawk kit, GW finally gives us...a plastic Super Space Marine Overlord kit instead.
This would be so typical of Gamesworkshop.
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...it's a duck.
No, it's CIA agent undercover.
2017/06/07 09:47:22
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 6th June 17: Vox-Cast (behind the scenes) episode 1+2 (all info in OP)
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2017/06/07 13:24:47
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 6th June 17: Vox-Cast (behind the scenes) episode 1+2 (all info in OP)
nintura wrote: I understand that I have to get used to not being over the top power like 7th, but he's 156 points which puts him near the top 6 or so in special characters.
If you look at him compared to a Captain, he has the same statline, if you equipped the captain similarly (which you cannot, Heavy flamer(not an option), Relic Blade, Storm shield) he would be 127 with a worse save at 3+. The closest you can get (combi-flamer) would put you at 121. So you are paying 33 points for his aura, a better flamer and a 2+ save. If you gave the captain a 2+ option, he would be over 170 points (with less movement, but more wounds), the relic blade is a little better than Vulkans spear.
So he seems to be costed fairly. I mean a Sterngaurd with combi-meltas and multi-meltas and vulkan will eat vehicles (or 4 multimelta devs). So say against a knight
you are looking at doing 13 wounds.
2017/06/07 13:31:38
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 6th June 17: Vox-Cast (behind the scenes) episode 1+2 (all info in OP)
nintura wrote: Anyone catch the Dark Angels vs the 1kSons yesterday? How did it go? How do the Sons look?
Was a Narrative Play mission using Power Levels. Dark Angels got wrecked; Magnus' Smite is incredibly powerful. Heldrakes are excellent harassment units. Thousand Sons with flamers erase things.
2017/06/07 13:34:29
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 6th June 17: Vox-Cast (behind the scenes) episode 1+2 (all info in OP)
nintura wrote: Anyone catch the Dark Angels vs the 1kSons yesterday? How did it go? How do the Sons look?
Was a Narrative Play mission using Power Levels. Dark Angels got wrecked; Magnus' Smite is incredibly powerful. Heldrakes are excellent harassment units. Thousand Sons with flamers erase things.
They actually let Magnus on the field? What did the DA get in return?
nintura wrote: Anyone catch the Dark Angels vs the 1kSons yesterday? How did it go? How do the Sons look?
IRRC the TS won convincingly, but Magnus had only 1 wound left . The DA player had his DW Knights wiped out by Magnus psy very early. I think he didn't had a Watcher in the Dark, would have saved their ass. Heldrake was very good, zipping around and tying up units.
2017/06/07 13:36:30
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 6th June 17: Vox-Cast (behind the scenes) episode 1+2 (all info in OP)
Well, fooey on that. I'll just wait for someone to do a report on Youtube. There's already a few 8th ed reports up, though none that I could see on TSons.
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
2017/06/07 13:50:53
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 6th June 17: Vox-Cast (behind the scenes) episode 1+2 (all info in OP)
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Well, fooey on that. I'll just wait for someone to do a report on Youtube. There's already a few 8th ed reports up, though none that I could see on TSons.
Honestly the GW one wasn't very good if you wanted to see Thousand Sons do stuff cause Magnus was such a huge percentage of the list.
2017/06/07 13:56:22
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 6th June 17: Vox-Cast (behind the scenes) episode 1+2 (all info in OP)
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Well, fooey on that. I'll just wait for someone to do a report on Youtube. There's already a few 8th ed reports up, though none that I could see on TSons.
Honestly the GW one wasn't very good if you wanted to see Thousand Sons do stuff cause Magnus was such a huge percentage of the list.
Well, it was a narrative game (with rolled reserves) and the DA player was letting the TS dictate the game. So certainly not a great barometer.
But my new favorite idea...
Rubrics with flamers in a rhino. Move rhino, disembark, run if you need to, and cast the move spell. That puts the Rubrics 23-28" across the table to touch something 31-36" in.
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2017/06/07 14:00:11
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 6th June 17: Vox-Cast (behind the scenes) episode 1+2 (all info in OP)
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Well, fooey on that. I'll just wait for someone to do a report on Youtube. There's already a few 8th ed reports up, though none that I could see on TSons.
I am still waiting for one with orks.
2017/06/07 14:02:46
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 6th June 17: Vox-Cast (behind the scenes) episode 1+2 (all info in OP)
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Well, fooey on that. I'll just wait for someone to do a report on Youtube. There's already a few 8th ed reports up, though none that I could see on TSons.
I am still waiting for one with orks.
Miniwargame just released one with orks vs marines, so you can have a look at that if you want.
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
2017/06/07 14:04:09
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 6th June 17: Vox-Cast (behind the scenes) episode 1+2 (all info in OP)
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Well, fooey on that. I'll just wait for someone to do a report on Youtube. There's already a few 8th ed reports up, though none that I could see on TSons.
I am still waiting for one with orks.
Frontline Gaming did one yesterday on Twitch. I think they put them on Youtube.
2017/06/07 14:05:44
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 6th June 17: Vox-Cast (behind the scenes) episode 1+2 (all info in OP)
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Well, fooey on that. I'll just wait for someone to do a report on Youtube. There's already a few 8th ed reports up, though none that I could see on TSons.
I am still waiting for one with orks.
Frontline Gaming did one yesterday on Twitch. I think they put them on Youtube.
Don't know if it's on youtube yet, but you can get list info here.
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Well, fooey on that. I'll just wait for someone to do a report on Youtube. There's already a few 8th ed reports up, though none that I could see on TSons.
I am still waiting for one with orks.
Frontline Gaming did one yesterday on Twitch. I think they put them on Youtube.
Yeah, they did a Orks vs Dark Eldar one yesterday.
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
2017/06/07 14:12:45
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 6th June 17: Vox-Cast (behind the scenes) episode 1+2 (all info in OP)
Daedalus81 wrote: Well, it was a narrative game (with rolled reserves) and the DA player was letting the TS dictate the game. So certainly not a great barometer.
But my new favorite idea...
Rubrics with flamers in a rhino. Move rhino, disembark, run if you need to, and cast the move spell. That puts the Rubrics 23-28" across the table to touch something 31-36" in.
Remember: It's DISEMBARK, then move Rhino. No disembarking after moving the transport.
2017/06/07 14:14:03
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 6th June 17: Vox-Cast (behind the scenes) episode 1+2 (all info in OP)
Daedalus81 wrote: Well, it was a narrative game (with rolled reserves) and the DA player was letting the TS dictate the game. So certainly not a great barometer.
But my new favorite idea...
Rubrics with flamers in a rhino. Move rhino, disembark, run if you need to, and cast the move spell. That puts the Rubrics 23-28" across the table to touch something 31-36" in.
Remember: It's DISEMBARK, then move Rhino. No disembarking after moving the transport.
Oh dangit. Stupid brain. Second turn anyway will get you pretty far.
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2017/06/07 14:15:53
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 6th June 17: Vox-Cast (behind the scenes) episode 1+2 (all info in OP)
I love Jes' design, but this looks ugly. I know it's a sketch, so hopefully if it does happen it looks better. I just can't imagine shoulder mounted rockets looking good tho.
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