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I've played Dark Angels for over 20 years. I have marines so short that current tacticals make 'em look like they should move over to my WFB dwarf army. I have a ton of metal terminators that stand shorter than most of my marine models (including several from 2nd Edition when those terminators were current). In general, my Dark Angels are already a wacky scale mishmash. So the new scale doesn't bug me.

On the fluff side? GW has spent the last 20+ years coming up with newer, better, more marine-y marines. Go back and look at the rank simplicity of the 2nd Edition marine lists. You had vets, terminators, tacs, devs, and assaults. Done! These days a chapter isn't a chapter if it isn't tossing down 2-4 of its own completely unique veteran units that are more veteran than the normal veterans. And 30k took this concept and perfected it. Primaris are just doing what they've always done. Just in this case they started from "hey, what if we made movie marines canon?"

40k has had its fair share of odd fluff, and at some point in time folks were up in arms over it. So every time there is pushback against a new thing all I can think of is this:



I mean, I still don't like fungus orks and make-believe ork weapons, but I'm not going to end up like a bitter Battletech player still hatin' on the clans. I moved on and learned to love the things in the setting that I love while ignoring the things I don't. Primaris may end up being silly(er than they already appear) but over time they'll mesh in, get their own minor retcons, and just become part of the game.

No.


I don't see myself building up a Marine army anytime in the near future. But if I ever do, I have no intention of "boycotting" anything.


This new breed of Astartes has a place in 40k as far as I'm concerned. And I highly doubt that's it's to replace the "regular" Space Marines anytime soon.

At least this time they explained where the new thing comes from. Where were all those Centurions this whole time?

I'm always on board for a good boycott. Unless GW actually gets the rules right this time (which seems unlikely given their track record, but give 1000 monkeys 1000 typewriters and it'll happen eventually) in which case my blood angels will be nothing but adeptus restartes.

 Ronin_eX wrote:
I've played Dark Angels for over 20 years. I have marines so short that current tacticals make 'em look like they should move over to my WFB dwarf army. I have a ton of metal terminators that stand shorter than most of my marine models (including several from 2nd Edition when those terminators were current). In general, my Dark Angels are already a wacky scale mishmash. So the new scale doesn't bug me.

On the fluff side? GW has spent the last 20+ years coming up with newer, better, more marine-y marines. Go back and look at the rank simplicity of the 2nd Edition marine lists. You had vets, terminators, tacs, devs, and assaults. Done! These days a chapter isn't a chapter if it isn't tossing down 2-4 of its own completely unique veteran units that are more veteran than the normal veterans. And 30k took this concept and perfected it. Primaris are just doing what they've always done. Just in this case they started from "hey, what if we made movie marines canon?"

40k has had its fair share of odd fluff, and at some point in time folks were up in arms over it. So every time there is pushback against a new thing all I can think of is this:



I mean, I still don't like fungus orks and make-believe ork weapons, but I'm not going to end up like a bitter Battletech player still hatin' on the clans. I moved on and learned to love the things in the setting that I love while ignoring the things I don't. Primaris may end up being silly(er than they already appear) but over time they'll mesh in, get their own minor retcons, and just become part of the game.

Pfft, hating on the Clans is so 1990s. these days the in thing to hate on is the Jihad

but seriously, yeah change comes, and you eaither need to embrace it, or... admit the setting no longer is what you love and move on.

I really do like the moniker Adeptus Restartes. I got a good chuckle from that.

If you guys are serious about boycotting Traditio, you'd better mean it. We don't need to see more angry, frothing at the mouth threads being dragged back to the top of the forums when they can just fade into obscurity with 0 replies. It'll do the site a favor by reducing toxic arguments and the breaking of rule #1. Not even just Traditio per se, but other troll threads too. Ignore them and they starve. Too late for this particular thread, but for future reference, guys

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
worst troll thread ever.

Heh, it's OP... It's what he does.

If someone wants to buy new models and play the, it's no skin off my back.




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 Ronin_eX wrote:
I've played Dark Angels for over 20 years. I have marines so short that current tacticals make 'em look like they should move over to my WFB dwarf army. I have a ton of metal terminators that stand shorter than most of my marine models (including several from 2nd Edition when those terminators were current).

Those RTB-01s and 2E metals are ordinary S3 T3 humans in Power Armor and TDA, not S4 T4 Spaz Marinz.

You should play them as Sisters of Battle.

Honestly i thought the Nu-marines had a nice helmet but the armor looked too sleek. You know it wasn't clunky which fit the grim dark feel. It felt too refined. Also yeah it bothers me Cawl (some new dude far as i know) managed to make all this super new armor. Considering how awful the imperium is in 40k and how many people want their power it seems to be going far too not grim dark. I didn't even like grim dark but it feels like an absolute theme change to me.

On first sight, I like what I see, so I'll get some. If you don't like them, don't get them. Boycott? Don't be silly......achieves nothing: no clear agreement on WHY the boycott, and, so long as the figures sell, GW don't care who to.

It had to be by a certain author...

Nope. I'm gonna buy em, they look cool, there marines.
Yep. Buying!

Oh and cawl who made the nu marines may be 10,000 years old as admech as so cyborg there nigh immortal.

This thread probably guaranteed I'm gonna buy twice as many boxes now.

So like 2. But still! I'll make up for the OP.

"Vote with your wallet"

This isn't how the world works.

Jacksmiles wrote:
This thread probably guaranteed I'm gonna buy twice as many boxes now.

So like 2. But still! I'll make up for the OP.

Buy a nu dread and name it after our honoured poster lol.

 blood reaper wrote:
"Vote with your wallet"

This isn't how the world works.

Uh, yeah it is. Only it just so happens that consumers as a whole aren't at your disposal to enforce punitive measures on companies you don't like, and they will buy things they like even if you don't.

 Luciferian wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:
"Vote with your wallet"

This isn't how the world works.

Uh, yeah it is. Only it just so happens that consumers as a whole aren't at your disposal to enforce punitive measures on companies you don't like, and they will buy things they like even if you don't.

It is but my vote at mo is going to gw, and so is my money.
I can choose to withdraw my vote at any time, change my mind, and that's just the way it is.

 Luciferian wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:
"Vote with your wallet"

This isn't how the world works.

Uh, yeah it is. Only it just so happens that consumers as a whole aren't at your disposal to enforce punitive measures on companies you don't like, and they will buy things they like even if you don't.

And that's why telling them to "vote with your wallet" isn't going to work - consumers usually also don't know what they want, so the choice of who they vote for really isn't there own.

 blood reaper wrote:

And that's why telling them to "vote with your wallet" isn't going to work - consumers usually also don't know what they want, so the choice of who they vote for really isn't there own.

Whose choice is it, Edward Bernays'? lol

 Luciferian wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:

And that's why telling them to "vote with your wallet" isn't going to work - consumers usually also don't know what they want, so the choice of who they vote for really isn't there own.

Whose choice is it, Edward Bernays'? lol

Lol. I choose to buy models I like look of.
I don,t care what others may think, and if my heresy wolves may be wrong grey.
My money, my plastic crack.

 jhe90 wrote:

Lol. I choose to buy models I like look of.
I don,t care what others may think, and if my heresy wolves may be wrong grey.
My money, my plastic crack.

There's never a wrong grey, my friend.

 Luciferian wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:

Lol. I choose to buy models I like look of.
I don,t care what others may think, and if my heresy wolves may be wrong grey.
My money, my plastic crack.

There's never a wrong grey, my friend.

All sprue lives matter

Aye, there done in post heresey grey, reasoning is ad a friend from foe signifier.
Given the fact all legions had traitors, they changed there armour so there loyalty would be clear.

 jhe90 wrote:

 Luciferian wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:

Lol. I choose to buy models I like look of.
I don,t care what others may think, and if my heresy wolves may be wrong grey.
My money, my plastic crack.

There's never a wrong grey, my friend.

All sprue lives matter

Aye, there done in post heresey grey, reasoning is ad a friend from foe signifier.
Given the fact all legions had traitors, they changed there armour so there loyalty would be clear.

There's never a wrong grey but there's always that grey you saw on someone else's models that would make yours look soooo much better. I was happy with my gunmetal grey until I saw a scruffy metalic grey/blue that looks like a blizzard, now I want that.
As for the NuMarines - I'll be getting enough to make all my Space Wolf characters. Sorry Traditio.

 Dakka Wolf wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:

 Luciferian wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:

Lol. I choose to buy models I like look of.
I don,t care what others may think, and if my heresy wolves may be wrong grey.
My money, my plastic crack.

There's never a wrong grey, my friend.

All sprue lives matter

Aye, there done in post heresey grey, reasoning is ad a friend from foe signifier.
Given the fact all legions had traitors, they changed there armour so there loyalty would be clear.

There's never a wrong grey but there's always that grey you saw on someone else's models that would make yours look soooo much better. I was happy with my gunmetal grey until I saw a scruffy metalic grey/blue that looks like a blizzard, now I want that.
As for the NuMarines - I'll be getting enough to make all my Space Wolf characters. Sorry Traditio.

I'm tempted to do a new Marine army for 8th. space wolves or blood ravens. decisions decisions..

I only buy models I like the look of.
As it is, I much prefer the truer scale and lack of skull bedecking on the primaris marines - compared to the "bling it up with skulls" normal marines.

That said, I haven't bought anything from GW in 4 years and since a boycott is just actively not purchasing from them, it's just "stay on course" for me.

Man this got to a fair few pages, pretty quickly..

I lol at the notion of a boycott..

But then again the OP had a massive cry about Shadow War because he is bad at it and wrote a bad list


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The other thing with the new Marines and the eventual phase out of the old.

The thing is GW needs money to continue to function, replacing a model line with a new set is a great way for them to do just that. As older players who have an existing army with nothing new to add wont actually be spending money on it

I know I had my Tyranids force since 3rd ed, and only made a few additions to it over the years. But with the Release of GSC I made a lot of purchases to have the new army up and going

I'm totally boycotting them and so's my friend!

On an unrelated note I play (almost entirely 3rd ed. model) Tyranids and he plays Orks.

But yeah, boycott 'em!!

Woo. That'll stick it to the man with his true-scale marines and his not catering to my specific personal whims with every release.

Honestly I'd love something along the lines of true-scale orks. Something without that stupid hunch that makes their butts stick out like that. I guess we sort of already have that in the form of nobz, but those are terrible so I guess it doesn't count (unless 8th fixes them up, please Gork).

We needed Truescale marines, causs i couldn't bear it anymore to see those wretched deformed models with no anatomic accuracy what so ever.

Did we need a new Marines Flavor with new stats?, no, we did not, there is already 215 marines flavors out there.

yes for the model, no for the rules.

Never underestimate the power of a traditio thread, question is, is he being ironic or not?

I vote to boycott boycotts...WITH A BOYCOTT!111111! #TacticalGenius #AWYISS #ForTheEmperor

Honestly, I don't see the point of the rage anymore. They're new marines, the old ones aren't going anywhere, 10 still won't fit in a rhino. I don't understand why there isn't a single 'I hate 8th and so does my wife' thread to stop clogging up the boards with topics that are "boycott this" and "Do you like that" things for an as-yet unreleased product. Yes it's Dakka, but damnit if there's something new to complain about each day.

Why boycott them when they are really nice models? Sure fluffwise you might not like them so why not replace all your marines with that?