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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 19:51:56
Subject: Re:Boycott Nu-Marines
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I've played Dark Angels for over 20 years. I have marines so short that current tacticals make 'em look like they should move over to my WFB dwarf army. I have a ton of metal terminators that stand shorter than most of my marine models (including several from 2nd Edition when those terminators were current). In general, my Dark Angels are already a wacky scale mishmash. So the new scale doesn't bug me.
On the fluff side? GW has spent the last 20+ years coming up with newer, better, more marine-y marines. Go back and look at the rank simplicity of the 2nd Edition marine lists. You had vets, terminators, tacs, devs, and assaults. Done! These days a chapter isn't a chapter if it isn't tossing down 2-4 of its own completely unique veteran units that are more veteran than the normal veterans. And 30k took this concept and perfected it. Primaris are just doing what they've always done. Just in this case they started from "hey, what if we made movie marines canon?"
40k has had its fair share of odd fluff, and at some point in time folks were up in arms over it. So every time there is pushback against a new thing all I can think of is this:
I mean, I still don't like fungus orks and make-believe ork weapons, but I'm not going to end up like a bitter Battletech player still hatin' on the clans. I moved on and learned to love the things in the setting that I love while ignoring the things I don't. Primaris may end up being silly(er than they already appear) but over time they'll mesh in, get their own minor retcons, and just become part of the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 20:15:55
Subject: Re:Boycott Nu-Marines
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No.
I don't see myself building up a Marine army anytime in the near future. But if I ever do, I have no intention of "boycotting" anything.
This new breed of Astartes has a place in 40k as far as I'm concerned. And I highly doubt that's it's to replace the "regular" Space Marines anytime soon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 20:18:22
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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At least this time they explained where the new thing comes from. Where were all those Centurions this whole time?
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 20:40:29
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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I'm always on board for a good boycott. Unless GW actually gets the rules right this time (which seems unlikely given their track record, but give 1000 monkeys 1000 typewriters and it'll happen eventually) in which case my blood angels will be nothing but adeptus restartes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 20:50:53
Subject: Re:Boycott Nu-Marines
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Ronin_eX wrote:I've played Dark Angels for over 20 years. I have marines so short that current tacticals make 'em look like they should move over to my WFB dwarf army. I have a ton of metal terminators that stand shorter than most of my marine models (including several from 2nd Edition when those terminators were current). In general, my Dark Angels are already a wacky scale mishmash. So the new scale doesn't bug me.
On the fluff side? GW has spent the last 20+ years coming up with newer, better, more marine-y marines. Go back and look at the rank simplicity of the 2nd Edition marine lists. You had vets, terminators, tacs, devs, and assaults. Done! These days a chapter isn't a chapter if it isn't tossing down 2-4 of its own completely unique veteran units that are more veteran than the normal veterans. And 30k took this concept and perfected it. Primaris are just doing what they've always done. Just in this case they started from "hey, what if we made movie marines canon?"
40k has had its fair share of odd fluff, and at some point in time folks were up in arms over it. So every time there is pushback against a new thing all I can think of is this:
I mean, I still don't like fungus orks and make-believe ork weapons, but I'm not going to end up like a bitter Battletech player still hatin' on the clans. I moved on and learned to love the things in the setting that I love while ignoring the things I don't. Primaris may end up being silly(er than they already appear) but over time they'll mesh in, get their own minor retcons, and just become part of the game.
Pfft, hating on the Clans is so 1990s. these days the in thing to hate on is the Jihad
but seriously, yeah change comes, and you eaither need to embrace it, or... admit the setting no longer is what you love and move on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 21:46:15
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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I really do like the moniker Adeptus Restartes. I got a good chuckle from that.
If you guys are serious about boycotting Traditio, you'd better mean it. We don't need to see more angry, frothing at the mouth  threads being dragged back to the top of the forums when they can just fade into obscurity with 0 replies. It'll do the site a favor by reducing toxic arguments and the breaking of rule #1. Not even just Traditio per se, but other troll threads too. Ignore them and they starve. Too late for this particular thread, but for future reference, guys
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 21:46:53
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Heh, it's OP... It's what he does.
If someone wants to buy new models and play the, it's no skin off my back.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Ronin_eX wrote:I've played Dark Angels for over 20 years. I have marines so short that current tacticals make 'em look like they should move over to my WFB dwarf army. I have a ton of metal terminators that stand shorter than most of my marine models (including several from 2nd Edition when those terminators were current).
Those RTB-01s and 2E metals are ordinary S3 T3 humans in Power Armor and TDA, not S4 T4 Spaz Marinz.
You should play them as Sisters of Battle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 21:52:00
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Calculating Commissar
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Honestly i thought the Nu-marines had a nice helmet but the armor looked too sleek. You know it wasn't clunky which fit the grim dark feel. It felt too refined. Also yeah it bothers me Cawl (some new dude far as i know) managed to make all this super new armor. Considering how awful the imperium is in 40k and how many people want their power it seems to be going far too not grim dark. I didn't even like grim dark but it feels like an absolute theme change to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 22:06:33
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Malicious Mandrake
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On first sight, I like what I see, so I'll get some. If you don't like them, don't get them. Boycott? Don't be silly......achieves nothing: no clear agreement on WHY the boycott, and, so long as the figures sell, GW don't care who to.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 22:10:28
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
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It had to be by a certain author...
Nope. I'm gonna buy em, they look cool, there marines.
Yep. Buying!
Oh and cawl who made the nu marines may be 10,000 years old as admech as so cyborg there nigh immortal.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 22:18:54
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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This thread probably guaranteed I'm gonna buy twice as many boxes now. So like 2. But still! I'll make up for the OP.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 22:20:29
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Barpharanges
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"Vote with your wallet"
This isn't how the world works.
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The biggest indicator someone is a loser is them complaining about 3d printers or piracy. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 22:21:53
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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Jacksmiles wrote:This thread probably guaranteed I'm gonna buy twice as many boxes now.
So like 2. But still! I'll make up for the OP.
Buy a nu dread and name it after our honoured poster lol.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 22:24:14
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Uh, yeah it is. Only it just so happens that consumers as a whole aren't at your disposal to enforce punitive measures on companies you don't like, and they will buy things they like even if you don't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 22:27:28
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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Luciferian wrote:
Uh, yeah it is. Only it just so happens that consumers as a whole aren't at your disposal to enforce punitive measures on companies you don't like, and they will buy things they like even if you don't.
It is but my vote at mo is going to gw, and so is my money.
I can choose to withdraw my vote at any time, change my mind, and that's just the way it is.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 22:27:41
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Barpharanges
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Luciferian wrote:
Uh, yeah it is. Only it just so happens that consumers as a whole aren't at your disposal to enforce punitive measures on companies you don't like, and they will buy things they like even if you don't.
And that's why telling them to "vote with your wallet" isn't going to work - consumers usually also don't know what they want, so the choice of who they vote for really isn't there own.
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The biggest indicator someone is a loser is them complaining about 3d printers or piracy. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 22:32:59
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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blood reaper wrote:
And that's why telling them to "vote with your wallet" isn't going to work - consumers usually also don't know what they want, so the choice of who they vote for really isn't there own.
Whose choice is it, Edward Bernays'? lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 22:40:48
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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Luciferian wrote: blood reaper wrote:
And that's why telling them to "vote with your wallet" isn't going to work - consumers usually also don't know what they want, so the choice of who they vote for really isn't there own.
Whose choice is it, Edward Bernays'? lol
Lol. I choose to buy models I like look of.
I don,t care what others may think, and if my heresy wolves may be wrong grey.
My money, my plastic crack.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 22:43:04
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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jhe90 wrote:
Lol. I choose to buy models I like look of.
I don,t care what others may think, and if my heresy wolves may be wrong grey.
My money, my plastic crack.
There's never a wrong grey, my friend.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 22:50:26
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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Luciferian wrote: jhe90 wrote:
Lol. I choose to buy models I like look of.
I don,t care what others may think, and if my heresy wolves may be wrong grey.
My money, my plastic crack.
There's never a wrong grey, my friend.
All sprue lives matter
Aye, there done in post heresey grey, reasoning is ad a friend from foe signifier.
Given the fact all legions had traitors, they changed there armour so there loyalty would be clear.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 23:20:37
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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jhe90 wrote: Luciferian wrote: jhe90 wrote:
Lol. I choose to buy models I like look of.
I don,t care what others may think, and if my heresy wolves may be wrong grey.
My money, my plastic crack.
There's never a wrong grey, my friend.
All sprue lives matter
Aye, there done in post heresey grey, reasoning is ad a friend from foe signifier.
Given the fact all legions had traitors, they changed there armour so there loyalty would be clear.
There's never a wrong grey but there's always that grey you saw on someone else's models that would make yours look soooo much better. I was happy with my gunmetal grey until I saw a scruffy metalic grey/blue that looks like a blizzard, now I want that.
As for the NuMarines - I'll be getting enough to make all my Space Wolf characters. Sorry Traditio.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 23:22:12
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Dakka Wolf wrote: jhe90 wrote: Luciferian wrote: jhe90 wrote:
Lol. I choose to buy models I like look of.
I don,t care what others may think, and if my heresy wolves may be wrong grey.
My money, my plastic crack.
There's never a wrong grey, my friend.
All sprue lives matter
Aye, there done in post heresey grey, reasoning is ad a friend from foe signifier.
Given the fact all legions had traitors, they changed there armour so there loyalty would be clear.
There's never a wrong grey but there's always that grey you saw on someone else's models that would make yours look soooo much better. I was happy with my gunmetal grey until I saw a scruffy metalic grey/blue that looks like a blizzard, now I want that.
As for the NuMarines - I'll be getting enough to make all my Space Wolf characters. Sorry Traditio.
I'm tempted to do a new Marine army for 8th. space wolves or blood ravens. decisions decisions..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 23:51:02
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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I only buy models I like the look of.
As it is, I much prefer the truer scale and lack of skull bedecking on the primaris marines - compared to the "bling it up with skulls" normal marines.
That said, I haven't bought anything from GW in 4 years and since a boycott is just actively not purchasing from them, it's just "stay on course" for me.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/17 00:04:54
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Man this got to a fair few pages, pretty quickly..
I lol at the notion of a boycott..
But then again the OP had a massive cry about Shadow War because he is bad at it and wrote a bad list Automatically Appended Next Post: The other thing with the new Marines and the eventual phase out of the old.
The thing is GW needs money to continue to function, replacing a model line with a new set is a great way for them to do just that. As older players who have an existing army with nothing new to add wont actually be spending money on it
I know I had my Tyranids force since 3rd ed, and only made a few additions to it over the years. But with the Release of GSC I made a lot of purchases to have the new army up and going
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/17 00:53:39
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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I'm totally boycotting them and so's my friend!
On an unrelated note I play (almost entirely 3rd ed. model) Tyranids and he plays Orks.
But yeah, boycott 'em!!
Woo. That'll stick it to the man with his true-scale marines and his not catering to my specific personal whims with every release.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/17 01:12:06
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Honestly I'd love something along the lines of true-scale orks. Something without that stupid hunch that makes their butts stick out like that. I guess we sort of already have that in the form of nobz, but those are terrible so I guess it doesn't count (unless 8th fixes them up, please Gork).
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"The undead ogre believes the sack of pies is your parrot, and proceeds to eat them. The pies explode, and so does his head. The way is clear." - Me, DMing what was supposed to be a serious Pathfinder campaign.
6000 - Death Skulls, Painted
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/17 01:15:48
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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We needed Truescale marines, causs i couldn't bear it anymore to see those wretched deformed models with no anatomic accuracy what so ever.
Did we need a new Marines Flavor with new stats?, no, we did not, there is already 215 marines flavors out there.
yes for the model, no for the rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/17 02:04:11
Subject: Re:Boycott Nu-Marines
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Dakka Veteran
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Never underestimate the power of a traditio thread, question is, is he being ironic or not?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/17 02:10:41
Subject: Re:Boycott Nu-Marines
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I vote to boycott boycotts...WITH A BOYCOTT!111111! #TacticalGenius #AWYISS #ForTheEmperor
Honestly, I don't see the point of the rage anymore. They're new marines, the old ones aren't going anywhere, 10 still won't fit in a rhino. I don't understand why there isn't a single 'I hate 8th and so does my wife' thread to stop clogging up the boards with topics that are "boycott this" and "Do you like that" things for an as-yet unreleased product. Yes it's Dakka, but damnit if there's something new to complain about each day.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/17 02:25:03
Subject: Re:Boycott Nu-Marines
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Why boycott them when they are really nice models? Sure fluffwise you might not like them so why not replace all your marines with that?
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