New Space Marine Vehicle: Repulsor

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**Purifier**

BrianDavion wrote:
one thing for those saying it looks too busym, this is presumably, as most studio models are, the vehicle with "all the trimings" there may be a lot of stuff that is optional. (pintal mounted guns are almost always optional)

In 8th, lasguns are optional for guardsmen. They're 0 points, but absolutely optional. Everything is optional now.

**Galas**

Purifier wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
one thing for those saying it looks too busym, this is presumably, as most studio models are, the vehicle with "all the trimings" there may be a lot of stuff that is optional. (pintal mounted guns are almost always optional)

In 8th, lasguns are optional for guardsmen. They're 0 points, but absolutely optional. Everything is optional now.

Theres no more proof of love for the Emperor that killing his enemies without wasting the Imperium very limited resources!

Men, afix your fists!

**BrianDavion**

Purifier wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
one thing for those saying it looks too busym, this is presumably, as most studio models are, the vehicle with "all the trimings" there may be a lot of stuff that is optional. (pintal mounted guns are almost always optional)

In 8th, lasguns are optional for guardsmen. They're 0 points, but absolutely optional. Everything is optional now.

actually they're noit, the rules say guardsmen have lasguns, you don't have a choice to take them without a gun.

what I mean by optional is like a predator's sponsons, they'll be extras you can add, and stuff that you can go without. if thats the case we might be able to build "cleaner" versions.

we'll have to wait and see.

**nateprati**

This is probably the only new model I see as kind of over the top even for 40k. I like the turret and that would have been cool as just an add on screw but the hull comes off a bit silly. The missiles everywhere and just the way it sits on a base. I could forgive it if it had tracks but it's really busy. I wouldn't talk bad about it to anyone if I saw it on the table top but it lacks in making me want to buy it for sure.

Reminds me of that silly hover tank from bf4 snow map dlc. Land speeders are way cooler and it seems unnecessary. Like what advantage does it have over a tank with tracks that an amphibious chimera or hovering speeder don't offer?

I mean it's cool but just too busy for me. I've never said it but............... too much dakka :(

**Mleander**

I fudging love this tank! Reminds me of the M2/M3 Bradley IFV

**Pink Horror**

I wonder why the rocket box on the side of the turret is the only one with a lid.

**Desubot**

Pink Horror wrote:
I wonder why the rocket box on the side of the turret is the only one with a lid.

Im wondering why that bitchin rocket turret with the sensor is on the back end of the vehicle.

also going to not glue any of those on. but cant think of where i want to put all those extra rocket pods.... maybe some IG thing.

**Trickstick**

nateprati wrote:
Reminds me of that silly hover tank from bf4 snow map dlc.

Oh my god, they added the hover tank from bf2142 into bf4? 2142 was one of my favourite games, and the last bf I ever played (or maybe that was bad company). That tank was awesome, as it could keep the front towards enemy whilst jinking all over the place. Thanks for the nostalgia trip.

**Purifier**

BrianDavion wrote:
Purifier wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
one thing for those saying it looks too busym, this is presumably, as most studio models are, the vehicle with "all the trimings" there may be a lot of stuff that is optional. (pintal mounted guns are almost always optional)

In 8th, lasguns are optional for guardsmen. They're 0 points, but absolutely optional. Everything is optional now.

actually they're noit, the rules say guardsmen have lasguns, you don't have a choice to take them without a gun.

what I mean by optional is like a predator's sponsons, they'll be extras you can add, and stuff that you can go without. if thats the case we might be able to build "cleaner" versions.

we'll have to wait and see.

Ah, you're right, it does actually state what they have as a base still.

**Torga_DW**

Something about it is wrong to me. Can't quite put my finger on it as to what, though. Will need to see the points and stats for it, but my first impression is visually i don't like it.

**oldravenman3025**

master of ordinance wrote:
Ugh, I dislike this and no, not just because it is Marine (but seriously, stop it with the marine gak already. We get it. You have a raging boner for big muscly men GW, but please stop forcing your Magical Realm on us)

Quite frankly this looks utterly stupid, and not just because the Imperium categorically lacks Grav tech t the point that even in its finest hours it lacked the ability to create new designs. Just look at this thing, it has:
A twin lascannon in the hull
A lascannon in the turret
A coaxial Heavy Stubber/Autocannon
A pintle mounted oversized Gatling
Missile pods bolted onto the turret cheeks
Missile pods bolted onto the turret sides
Missile pods bolted on over the side hatches
Missile pods bolted onto the rear
What looks like freaking transport capacity
The hull is pretty much a landraider with the tracks ripped off

All this and more on a magic floating Landraider. It sounds stupid because looks stupid because it is stupid. There is no way a chassis that size can support that many weapon systems, let alone transport troops as well, and it just lacks any reason to exist. Not to mention the stupid idea of a tank being a Tank Destroyer, a MBT, an APC, a Missile Destroyer and a MLRS system all at once.

The Land Speeder was technically a new design, produced in the 31st Millennium, based on the data recovered by Land (mostly data regarding the grav plates). The Custodes and Sisters of Silence had access to advanced grav vehicle designs, produced exclusively for them by the Mechanicus. And that is not counting the Javelin and Jetbike used by the Space Marine Legions.

Anti-gravity technologies were not completely lost to the Imperium by the 41st Millennium. Just harder (and expensive) to produce and maintain.

**BrianDavion**

oldravenman3025 wrote:
master of ordinance wrote:
Ugh, I dislike this and no, not just because it is Marine (but seriously, stop it with the marine gak already. We get it. You have a raging boner for big muscly men GW, but please stop forcing your Magical Realm on us)

Quite frankly this looks utterly stupid, and not just because the Imperium categorically lacks Grav tech t the point that even in its finest hours it lacked the ability to create new designs. Just look at this thing, it has:
A twin lascannon in the hull
A lascannon in the turret
A coaxial Heavy Stubber/Autocannon
A pintle mounted oversized Gatling
Missile pods bolted onto the turret cheeks
Missile pods bolted onto the turret sides
Missile pods bolted on over the side hatches
Missile pods bolted onto the rear
What looks like freaking transport capacity
The hull is pretty much a landraider with the tracks ripped off

All this and more on a magic floating Landraider. It sounds stupid because looks stupid because it is stupid. There is no way a chassis that size can support that many weapon systems, let alone transport troops as well, and it just lacks any reason to exist. Not to mention the stupid idea of a tank being a Tank Destroyer, a MBT, an APC, a Missile Destroyer and a MLRS system all at once.

The Land Speeder was technically a new design, produced in the 31st Millennium, based on the data recovered by Land (mostly data regarding the grav plates). The Custodes and Sisters of Silence had access to advanced grav vehicle designs, produced exclusively for them by the Mechanicus. And that is not counting the Javelin and Jetbike used by the Space Marine Legions.

Anti-gravity technologies were not completely lost to the Imperium by the 41st Millennium. Just harder (and expensive) to produce and maintain.

that combined with the fact that star ships in the IoM still have artifical gravity.

as for the tank being a "Tank destroyer, a MBT, a APC, a missile destroyer and a MLRS all at once" that's a lot of salt for something we don't know much about.

according to the links those missiles are just a glorified frag assault launcher (something land raider crusaders have) once you remove that, it has 3 las cannons a stubber, and an anti-infantry pintal gun.

it's not much more heavily armed then a razorback. and it's basicly about halfway between a predator and a land raider.

seems fine to me

**reluxor**

master of ordinance wrote:
Ugh, I dislike this and no, not just because it is Marine (but seriously, stop it with the marine gak already. We get it. You have a raging boner for big muscly men GW, but please stop forcing your Magical Realm on us)

Quite frankly this looks utterly stupid, and not just because the Imperium categorically lacks Grav tech t the point that even in its finest hours it lacked the ability to create new designs. Just look at this thing, it has:
A twin lascannon in the hull
A lascannon in the turret
A coaxial Heavy Stubber/Autocannon
A pintle mounted oversized Gatling
Missile pods bolted onto the turret cheeks
Missile pods bolted onto the turret sides
Missile pods bolted on over the side hatches
Missile pods bolted onto the rear
What looks like freaking transport capacity
The hull is pretty much a landraider with the tracks ripped off

All this and more on a magic floating Landraider. It sounds stupid because looks stupid because it is stupid. There is no way a chassis that size can support that many weapon systems, let alone transport troops as well, and it just lacks any reason to exist. Not to mention the stupid idea of a tank being a Tank Destroyer, a MBT, an APC, a Missile Destroyer and a MLRS system all at once.

This. I was not in love with primaris space marine but I was in doubt. Then came that HUGE dreadnaught that feels totally out of the game sizewise. Then came that repulsor that is too big, too gun, too grav. Did not make any sense. I liked the madness of the imperium this mixture of forbiden technology and medieval occultism. This repulsor killed that beautiful concept that I liked so much.

When the first pictures of giant marines leaked I was worried but this is much much worse to me, it is not just a problem of size or aestetic, it is a problem of concept.

**BrianDavion**

reluxor wrote:
master of ordinance wrote:
Ugh, I dislike this and no, not just because it is Marine (but seriously, stop it with the marine gak already. We get it. You have a raging boner for big muscly men GW, but please stop forcing your Magical Realm on us)

Quite frankly this looks utterly stupid, and not just because the Imperium categorically lacks Grav tech t the point that even in its finest hours it lacked the ability to create new designs. Just look at this thing, it has:
A twin lascannon in the hull
A lascannon in the turret
A coaxial Heavy Stubber/Autocannon
A pintle mounted oversized Gatling
Missile pods bolted onto the turret cheeks
Missile pods bolted onto the turret sides
Missile pods bolted on over the side hatches
Missile pods bolted onto the rear
What looks like freaking transport capacity
The hull is pretty much a landraider with the tracks ripped off

All this and more on a magic floating Landraider. It sounds stupid because looks stupid because it is stupid. There is no way a chassis that size can support that many weapon systems, let alone transport troops as well, and it just lacks any reason to exist. Not to mention the stupid idea of a tank being a Tank Destroyer, a MBT, an APC, a Missile Destroyer and a MLRS system all at once.

This. I was not in love with primaris space marine but I was in doubt. Then came that HUGE dreadnaught that feels totally out of the game sizewise. Then came that repulsor that is too big, too gun, too grav. Did not make any sense. I liked the madness of the imperium this mixture of forbiden technology and medieval occultism. This repulsor killed that beautiful concept that I liked so much.

When the first pictures of giant marines leaked I was worried but this is much much worse to me, it is not just a problem of size or aestetic, it is a problem of concept.

why so?
otherb then hovering how is it differant from a predator, or land raider?

**reluxor**

I believe it is time The Emperor of Man send the Space Wolves on Mars and Ultramar to end this Heresy. NOW.
Its gone too far.

**Rippy**

Rumored ~~repulsive~~ Repulsor stats on Faeit212 (apparently from "good sources" ) :

Power level 14

S7 T8 W13 Sv3+
Turret - Heavy Lascannon, Heavy Stubber
*Resolve shots with Heavy Stubber first, if the Heavy Lascannon targets a unit hit by the Stubber, it may reroll misses

Hull-mounted Twin Lascannon, swivels up/down and left/right

Rotor cannon is a pintle mounted upgrade

Missiles: Roll a D6 at the start of each fight phase for each enemy unit within 1", on a 4+ it takes D3 mortal wounds (slightly better Frag Assault Launchers)

Transport Capacity 7, can only transport Primaris Marines

Decays its Movement/BS/Attacks as it loses wounds
Movement 10" BS 3+ Attacks 3 base

**BrianDavion**

reluxor wrote:
I believe it is time The Emperor of Man send the Space Wolves on Mars and Ultramar to end this Heresy. NOW.
Its gone too far.

who are you to tell a Primarch of Gulliman's statue what is heresy?

which BTW is the question anyone who wants to rebel is gonna have to answer.

Gulliman is a primarch whom walked the earth when the emperor did, whom ordered the Imperium after the Heresy, the man is pretty much unassaliable

**SagesStone**

I'd want a repulsor for chaos, but I'm not a fan of Nurgle.

**PTS**

I noticed that White Scars are featured in previews of the new book. Was in the process of putting together an army, but now want to switch over to using the new larger marines.

Will probably hold off until they release bikes and flyer models for the big guys. Makes no sense to field White Scars without 'em.

How far off d'ya think that will be?

**BrianDavion**

PTS wrote:
I noticed that White Scars are featured in the new book. Was in the process of putting together an army, but now want to switch over to using the new larger marines.

Will probably hold off until they release bikes and flyer models for the big guys (doesn't make sense to field White Scars without 'em) - how far off d'ya think that will be?

could never even happen. my suggestion would be a mixed army. normal marines on bikes, backed up by primaris inceptor squads

**PTS**

So the possibility of GW replacing the entire Space Marine line with Primaris sized models is still just a rumor?

**BrianDavion**

PTS wrote:
So the possibility of GW replacing the entire Space Marine line with Primaris sized models is still just a rumor?

yeah, it could happen, but for now at least they seem to be deliberatly trying to give Primairis Marines and standard Marines their own distinct niches

someone likened it to temptus scions vs standard guardsmen, not a bad way to think of it

**Purifier**

BrianDavion wrote:
Gulliman is a primarch whom walked the earth when the emperor did, whom ordered the Imperium after the Heresy, the man is pretty much unassaliable

Who vs. Whom. Whom should be used to refer to the object of a verb or preposition. When in doubt, try this simple trick: If you can replace the word with “he”' or “'she,” use who. If you can replace it with “him” or “her,” use whom.

**BrianDavion**

Purifier wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
Gulliman is a primarch whom walked the earth when the emperor did, whom ordered the Imperium after the Heresy, the man is pretty much unassaliable

Who vs. Whom. Whom should be used to refer to the object of a verb or preposition. When in doubt, try this simple trick: If you can replace the word with “he”' or “'she,” use who. If you can replace it with “him” or “her,” use whom.

**master of ordinance**

Purifier wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
Gulliman is a primarch whom walked the earth when the emperor did, whom ordered the Imperium after the Heresy, the man is pretty much unassaliable

Who vs. Whom. Whom should be used to refer to the object of a verb or preposition. When in doubt, try this simple trick: If you can replace the word with “he”' or “'she,” use who. If you can replace it with “him” or “her,” use whom.

SIEG GRAMMATICUS!

**hobojebus**

BrianDavion wrote:
reluxor wrote:
I believe it is time The Emperor of Man send the Space Wolves on Mars and Ultramar to end this Heresy. NOW.
Its gone too far.

who are you to tell a Primarch of Gulliman's statue what is heresy?

which BTW is the question anyone who wants to rebel is gonna have to answer.

Gulliman is a primarch whom walked the earth when the emperor did, whom ordered the Imperium after the Heresy, the man is pretty much unassaliable

Only until Russ gets bored of slaanesh's garden decides things have got bad enough to meet the wolftime requirements he made up because he wanted a holiday, then he and every wolf who died will get gak sorted while hot Valkyries (demonetes converted by some sweet fenrisian loving) fuel them with ale.

**Backfire**

VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Backfire wrote:
It's overgunned, like so many of the recent GW models. At least it doesn't have stupidity like Taurox's fixed Autocannons.

With out the turret missiles (and assuming the hull launchers are Assault Launchers) its got roughly the same number of weapons as a Predator.

Predator has one gun in the turret (two if you add Storm Bolter) and two in sponsons. Repulsor has 3 in turret, plus those Missiles, plus antennas. The turret is just way too crammed with stuff when compared with older 40K tanks. One would hope they would keep some kind of consistency in how much guns they cram in the models because they look so stupid when put side-by-side, and also make no sense from fluff standpoint.

There is a Heavy Lascannon now?

**BrianDavion**

Backfire wrote:
VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Backfire wrote:
It's overgunned, like so many of the recent GW models. At least it doesn't have stupidity like Taurox's fixed Autocannons.

With out the turret missiles (and assuming the hull launchers are Assault Launchers) its got roughly the same number of weapons as a Predator.

Predator has one gun in the turret (two if you add Storm Bolter) and two in sponsons. Repulsor has 3 in turret, plus those Missiles, plus antennas. The turret is just way too crammed with stuff when compared with older 40K tanks. One would hope they would keep some kind of consistency in how much guns they cram in the models because they look so stupid when put side-by-side, and also make no sense from fluff standpoint.

There is a Heavy Lascannon now?

the turret has a single las cannon, a stubber, and a one shot missle pod. ohh and a pintle mounted gun

a predator could have TWO las cannons, a pintal mounted gun, and I've seen people put the hunter killer missile there,

**jhe90**

hobojebus wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
reluxor wrote:
I believe it is time The Emperor of Man send the Space Wolves on Mars and Ultramar to end this Heresy. NOW.
Its gone too far.

who are you to tell a Primarch of Gulliman's statue what is heresy?

which BTW is the question anyone who wants to rebel is gonna have to answer.

Gulliman is a primarch whom walked the earth when the emperor did, whom ordered the Imperium after the Heresy, the man is pretty much unassaliable

Only until Russ gets bored of slaanesh's garden decides things have got bad enough to meet the wolftime requirements he made up because he wanted a holiday, then he and every wolf who died will get gak sorted while hot Valkyries (demonetes converted by some sweet fenrisian loving) fuel them with ale.

Lol... I wanna see that happen.
One primarch returns with a inquisitor, a techpreist and others.

One returns with a alot of space Vikings, valkiryes and tons of ale to do some head bashing lol.

**master of ordinance**

BrianDavion wrote:
Backfire wrote:
VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Backfire wrote:
It's overgunned, like so many of the recent GW models. At least it doesn't have stupidity like Taurox's fixed Autocannons.

With out the turret missiles (and assuming the hull launchers are Assault Launchers) its got roughly the same number of weapons as a Predator.

Predator has one gun in the turret (two if you add Storm Bolter) and two in sponsons. Repulsor has 3 in turret, plus those Missiles, plus antennas. The turret is just way too crammed with stuff when compared with older 40K tanks. One would hope they would keep some kind of consistency in how much guns they cram in the models because they look so stupid when put side-by-side, and also make no sense from fluff standpoint.

There is a Heavy Lascannon now?

the turret has a single las cannon, a stubber, and a one shot missle pod. ohh and a pintle mounted gun

a predator could have TWO las cannons, a pintal mounted gun, and I've seen people put the hunter killer missile there,

A Heavy Lascannon, A Heavy Stubber, a pintle mounted Gatling Cannon and at least four one shot missile pods. Plus any Hunter Killers you choose to add.