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I wonder what this Index update will bring!

Shall be pestering FW with emails to try and get all the Malcador variants useable by ourselves again.

tc63 wrote:
I wonder what this Index update will bring!

Shall be pestering FW with emails to try and get all the Malcador variants useable by ourselves again.

i have NO IDEA.

Assuming however that GW will take THEIR BSF models and tell the old core of R&H to go use that instead.

Otoh we get decent plastic models out of it

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/01/24/new-rules-incoming-for-forge-world-modelsgw-homepage-post-2fw-homepage-post-3/


hope, prehaps?

I'm hopeful.

If they're doing all the Forgeworld books, it would imply that R+H will be included.

Hopefully with a list at least functional for casual play.

Even if they immediately threw the army into Legends, as long as they revised it before they did, that would Still be preferable to leaving it as it is.

Or maybe they'll Squat it. But the fact that they included them in Apocalypse (and fixed a thing or two when they did!) give me hope doubt that they won't do something with it, even if it's just some legit casual improvements.

ElSmacko wrote:
I'm hopeful.

If they're doing all the Forgeworld books, it would imply that R+H will be included.

Hopefully with a list at least functional for casual play.

Even if they immediately threw the army into Legends, as long as they revised it before they did, that would Still be preferable to leaving it as it is.

Or maybe they'll Squat it. But the fact that they included them in Apocalypse (and fixed a thing or two when they did!) give me hope doubt that they won't do something with it, even if it's just some legit casual improvements.

MAybee we actually get something worthwile out of it.
Allbeit i do wonder were the CA faq is.
I admit fully that i gave them heavy flak, but at this stage i am surprised that it isn't out yet.

There are no Renegade & Heretic models, so there will be no rules.

Hope for the best, but expect the worst.

We're getting Squatted, at least in our current form.

Wouldn't be the first time though

Voyna Narodnaya is now purely a modelling project so while it would still suck to have everything taken away, it wouldn't actually effect me at all.

I'm all in for Kill Team these days and there I just run my dudespeople as Astra Militarum.

 Excommunicatus wrote:
Voyna Narodnaya is now purely a modelling project so while it would still suck to have everything taken away, it wouldn't actually effect me at all.

I'm all in for Kill Team these days and there I just run my dudespeople as Astra Militarum.

can fully reccomend the rules for KT for BSF, quite decent and a lot of possible shenanigans for the list, certainly a lot more interesting than AM.

Oh yeah? I have their rules in Kill Team Annual, but I haven't checked them out.

I'll go have a butcher's.

Danke.

EDIT - Hmm. I'm not convinced. I just don't have the models to make a good SoA KT and I'm unsure that adding a Traitor Commissar (whose model I'm already using as a Sergeant) and two Rogue Psykers makes up for losing access to eight Special Weapons and VoC.

Plus, Black Legion. Eww. Plus, plus, they're built from Cadian parts.

I guess there's nothing to stop me knocking a list together and seeing how it performs.

 Excommunicatus wrote:
Oh yeah? I have their rules in Kill Team Annual, but I haven't checked them out.

I'll go have a butcher's.

Danke.

EDIT - Hmm. I'm not convinced. I just don't have the models to make a good SoA KT and I'm unsure that adding a Traitor Commissar (whose model I'm already using as a Sergeant) and two Rogue Psykers makes up for losing access to eight Special Weapons and VoC.

Plus, Black Legion. Eww. Plus, plus, they're built from Cadian parts.

I guess there's nothing to stop me knocking a list together and seeing how it performs.

The BSF traitors are somewhat based on cadians, yeah but they are definately nights and day different then what cadians are ( just better proportionate, varied gender, better equipment etc.)

Honestly some of the best stuff in there is the Rogue psyker, the Negavolt cultists, no seriously they are really tough and dangerous for what they are, especially when you use the stratagem, the Legionaires are decent morale linchpins, flamers are decent, the cultists themselves are phenomenal, especially the champion with it's stubcarbine.

I haven't even bought any Vic Mini bits yet and my R&H models are already nearly 15% female.

Once I have the bits, that goes up to 29%. So gender isn't really an issue for me.

I'm going to go ahead and start a SoA KT thread, we probably shouldn't be spamming this up talking about a different gaming system and different Faction.

EDIT - Actually, no I'm not. The only part of the SoA that really appeals to me is the Traitor Commissar, who has no options and is armed in a way I cannot represent, and the Rogue Psykers. I'm gonna stick with using my dudes as Astra Militarum and eventually both types of Cultists.

Plus, I already have a squishy melee Kill Team in my Daemonettes.