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 blackmage wrote:
now with new FW faq you need change many things each petard now cost 60 not 30, so each decimator now is 210.

Where did you find this? I can't see the FAQ on their website.
Edit: Found it.

 blackmage wrote:
now with new FW faq you need change many things each petard now cost 60 not 30, so each decimator now is 210.

Looks like FW saw the problems. I will have to rework it to see if it's worthwhile.

I think it's much better to run a contemptor with twin kheres, and two soul burners. Clocks in at a very similar price, adds more s7 shots, halves the mortal wound output (although bs 2+ is great with a lord), and adds two more wounds.

Lancelot185 wrote:
I think it's much better to run a contemptor with twin kheres, and two soul burners. Clocks in at a very similar price, adds more s7 shots, halves the mortal wound output (although bs 2+ is great with a lord), and adds two more wounds.

right but the list idea was spam as much as mortal you can so decimators was the choice, you can still run 3-4 of then anyway.

TZEENTCH DAEMONS - Battalion Detachment

HQ:
The Changeling
[100]

Herald of Tzeentch on Disc
[99]

Troops:
(20) Brimstone Horrors
[40]

(20) Brimstone Horrors
[40]

(20) Brimstone Horrors
[40]

(18) Brimstone Horrors
[36]

[355]

THOUSAND SONS - Vanguard Detachment

HQ:
Tzeentch Daemon Prince
Wings, Twin Talons
[180]

Elites:
Chaos Decimator
2x Soulburner Petard
[210]

Chaos Decimator
2x Soulburner Petard
[210]

Chaos Decimator
2x Soulburner Petard
[210]

Chaos Decimator
2x Soulburner Petard
[210]

Chaos Decimator
2x Soulburner Petard
[210]

Lord of War:
Magnus the Red
[415]

[1645]

[2000]

Well, that change really hurt the list a lot. Essentially losing over a Decimator in points due to the weapon bump.

Thankfully, it still sports FIVE Decimators. This list loses the Rapiers and Hellwrights because of points. It does, however, still have a lot going for it. Just less cheesy, I think. Much more thematically Tzeentch too. Magnus & Changeling still create the bubble for the Decimators, but they will have to rely on their wound-healing and re-rolls to not die as fast. The Hellwright would be nice, but they are tougher to fit in post-FAQ (rules and points).

On an up side, the list has another squad of Brimstones, because they ate up the last points. Plus, not a Herald. The list should still be averaging about what? 50-60 Mortal wound a turn between Smites and Soulburners? Not bad. Sure, hordes of over 100 models will be an issue. Likely Guard, Nid Hordes, and maybe Orks will pose issues (never thought I would ever type that assessment!). But it should make reasonable mincemeat out of more elite builds.

Thoughts? Ideas?