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See title, just wanted opinions on this.

I will say, for general utility, the Storm Raven is pretty excellent.

Fighting other flyers? It's got a pair of wing mounted missile launchers that do a D6 wounds each at -2 AP, a twin assault cannon, plasma cannon, or twin lascannon on the top turret (Dealer's choice, I prefer the Assault Cannon for utility), and a nose mounted twin missile launcher, heavy bolter, or multimelta (Multimelta all the way for me). Plus paired hurricane bolters for added harassment.

Ground Attack, you carry a Dread and 12 infantry models (or 6 terminator/jump pack models) you can drop out to charge in and wreck house with the above shooting support.

For multirole it's hard to beat.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

Stormraven is best general purpose, and as a bonus, can transport units up to the size a dreadnought(!!!) in to battle.

As for anti-air... the Stormhawk is probably what you'd go for if you wanted something purely for killing airpower, though it does have some utility against ground units. Instead of having a penalty to hit air units with its Icarus Stormcannon and Skyhammer ML, it has a bonus, and has the penalty to hit ground targets instead. It still has twin assault cannons as well that don't share this penalty to ground targets.

For anti-ground, it depends on how much you want to spend.

The stormtalon with twin assault cannons and twin heavy bolters is actually relatively cheap, a hundred points cheaper than the stormraven, but it's less durable and has fewer weapons. Its relative cheapness allows it to be put in more lists than the stormraven. For a minor investment in points, it can excahnge its heavy bolters for twin lascannons or a typhoon launcher, giving it more anti-tank firepower.

For pure firepower, though, nothing the Imperials have outside of forgeworld beats the stormraven. Even relatively bare, with twin assault cannons, twin heavy bolters, twin hurricane bolters, and twin stormstrike missile launchers, it puts out a tremendous amount of firepower that can do feats like gut entire 50-man conscript squads in a single turn. And it can be upgraded to be an anti-tank gunship as well, with twin-multimelta and twin lascannons alongside its twin stormstrikes.

Vulture gunships might beat the stormraven for an anti infantry role. 43 BS 3+ or 4+ S5 shots for 160pts is pretty crazy

 DoomMouse wrote:
Vulture gunships might beat the stormraven for an anti infantry role. 43 BS 3+ or 4+ S5 shots for 160pts is pretty crazy

Vulture will always be bs4 min. Modifier against ground target still applies even if you are in hover to counter heavy penalty.

 DoomMouse wrote:
Vulture gunships might beat the stormraven for an anti infantry role. 43 BS 3+ or 4+ S5 shots for 160pts is pretty crazy

Stormraven gives 12 S6 AP-1 shots, 6 S5 AP-1 shots, and 24 S4 AP- shots with base weapons + hurricanes, all fired at BS3+.

It can change those 6 S5 shots for 2d6 S4 shots, and/or those 12 S6 shots for 2d3 plasmacannon shots, so at max it has the potential for 48 hits total, or potentially 42 with six of them being S7 AP-3.

Granted, it pays extra for the ability to transport while the vulture doesn't. But it can very much put out a ton of firepower, and it's far more durable than the vulture.

I don't think you can beat a marauder destroyer for ground attack, although it is expensive. 430pts for 6x autocannon, 2x assault cannon, 2x heavy bolter, 8x hellstrike missiles and a cluster of bombs. Also, you ignore the -1 to hit for moving, have 20 wounds and hellstrike missiles are not one shot anymore. You do have to be careful about your movement though, as there is no hover mode.

I feel that people arent giving FW vehicles a fair enough look.
For example the Fire Raptor. T7, 16 Wounds and a 3+ save
Its tougher than the storm raven with 10 S6 Ap-2 D2 shots, 24 heavy bolter shots and 4 S8 Ap-3 3D weapons. Or it can switch the quad heavy bolters for twin auto cannons and the missiles for 2 twin lascannons.
Its truly an unholy death machine.

Stormhawk is a pretty good plane vs aircraft, isn't it? Very cheap, packed with weapons, +2 to hit vs Fly (if you equip it with icarus stormcannon and/or skyhammer missile launcher), re-roll saves of 1, enemies have -1 to hit it...

I'm not giving FW a look until they fix their gak.

 Melissia wrote:
I'm not giving FW a look until they fix their gak.

But FW is completely balanced! The rules totally weren't written on the back of a napkin an hour before they were due at the printers. Such assertions are utter nonsense!

Sad thing is, I like FW. Their units are really cool looking and in previous editions I defended them.

But this release... it's an embarassment.

 DoomMouse wrote:
Vulture gunships might beat the stormraven for an anti infantry role. 43 BS 3+ or 4+ S5 shots for 160pts is pretty crazy

Forgeworld requires opponent's permission to run, which automatically makes it strictly inferior to a stormraven.

 Arandmoor wrote:

 DoomMouse wrote:
Vulture gunships might beat the stormraven for an anti infantry role. 43 BS 3+ or 4+ S5 shots for 160pts is pretty crazy

Forgeworld requires opponent's permission to run, which automatically makes it strictly inferior to a stormraven.

That used to be the case, but it isn't any more. FW stuff seems mostly on queue with GW concepts. The worst part about the books were the rules errors.

 Arandmoor wrote:
Forgeworld requires opponent's permission to run, which automatically makes it strictly inferior to a stormraven.

Please stop repeating this myth, it is not true at all. FW units only "require permission" in the same way that everything in 40k requires your opponent to agree to the game. What are you going to do, hold a gun to your opponent's head and force them to play against your army if they say "I refuse to play against tactical marines"?

I'm beginning to think there should be a rule against FW legality discussion. Some people think one way, others think the opposite. All that happens is the thread gets derailed and no one changes their minds. Just play with what you want, against people who agree to play you.