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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer




Tampa, FL

Didn't see this posted:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/09/new-matched-play-rules-in-chapter-approved-aug-9gw-homepage-post-1/

So looks like they are changing:

* Flyers can't hold objectives
* Objective Secured is back if you're Battle-forged
* They are adopting the ITC style of determining who goes first (deploying first gives +1 to the roll instead of being automatic choice)

and maybe other things (they hint 12 new Matched Play missions).

- Wayne
Formerly WayneTheGame 
   
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

The "go first" change was mentioned to only apply to the new missions.

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Terrifying Doombull




* They are adopting the ITC style of determining who goes first (deploying first gives +1 to the roll instead of being automatic choice)

the 'ITC style?'
It was the default game rule for decades.

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Norn Queen






Giving Objective Secured to any IMPERIUM detachment is kind of stupid and totally negates the point of making it apply to "Space Marines" detachments. It should require TWO keywords in common, much like how the space marine codex needs <CHAPTER> and ADPETUS ASTARTES. Let's hope they change that.

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I mean, obviously they don't intend for <Faction> to be Imperium because every detachment that can contain multiple non-fortification units already requires that all of them must be from the same "Faction". Presumably they mean for <Faction> to be picking out the customizable keywords that units have, like <chapter> and <regiment>, rather than the fixed ones like Adeptus Astartes.

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Fireknife Shas'el




Lisbon, Portugal

I, for one, liked the ObjSec rule. They were already giving it to Troops units anyway (check SM, GK and CSM codexes).

Not that sure on the Flyer one... removed the last reason to use Remoras. Piranhas do their job way better (except for speed and firing Seeker Missiles at BS4+ on the move)

The initiative one makes MSU even more attractive... dunno if this is will be good for the game.

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Camas, WA

Wayniac wrote:
Didn't see this posted:

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/735699.page

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Clousseau





East Bay, Ca, US

Objective secured should only be possible if you have a *pure* detachment, with the Faction / Chapter keyword shared among all units.

Otherwise there's little disincentive for everyone Imperium to pull in 50 conscripts and a Commissar, tail them out and obsec any 2 objectives.

I mean I don't care at this point, I'm going to be adding anywhere from 50-100 of these guys to my lists, but i could see how Xenos would really struggle with this.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut





You won't want to be just imperium when the codex comes out I'm sure.

It's fair to bet a conscript nerf is coming soon.

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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter





I believe the <Faction> Keyword is Order of the Argent Shroud, or Cadian 9125h Armored, not Imperium. Or, at least, that's the intent, I think.

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Yes, please go ^ there for the continuing discussion...

Thanks!
   
 
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