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 Luciferian wrote:
Sorry to rain on your parade, but I wouldn't hold my breath until I saw something a little more substantial than hearsay from low-level GW employees who have no real connection to Nottingham. Is it likely that GW will release plastic Sisters some day? I'd say so. Is there any reason to believe that it will be in January 2018? Without any credible evidence, I'd say no.

To me, you're just another naysayer, having fun naysaying. Yes, I know. I've been told a thousand times every time Sisters of Battle rumors come about. I'm familiar with disappointment. Thank you for adding your voice to the incredible clamor that are the naysayers.

And one day, when they do come out, I'll stand atop the naysayers and laugh as my wallet leaks green tears into the hands of GW just so I can build myself a house made entirely of plastic sisters of battle models and sprues.

drbored wrote:

 Luciferian wrote:
Sorry to rain on your parade, but I wouldn't hold my breath until I saw something a little more substantial than hearsay from low-level GW employees who have no real connection to Nottingham. Is it likely that GW will release plastic Sisters some day? I'd say so. Is there any reason to believe that it will be in January 2018? Without any credible evidence, I'd say no.

To me, you're just another naysayer, having fun naysaying. Yes, I know. I've been told a thousand times every time Sisters of Battle rumors come about. I'm familiar with disappointment. Thank you for adding your voice to the incredible clamor that are the naysayers.

And one day, when they do come out, I'll stand atop the naysayers and laugh as my wallet leaks green tears into the hands of GW just so I can build myself a house made entirely of plastic sisters of battle models and sprues.

Well, there's always someone saying something negative and if you wait long enough it comes true. To which no-one really cares at that point because it was just a matter of time. I guess the same could be applied to positive things as well - *today* is the day that trump astounds the world with his political acumen. If you want to laugh and leak money into gw, you could do that now. What makes plastic sisters better than metal sisters if you really love them that much? I doubt there'll be much price difference.

 Torga_DW wrote:

drbored wrote:

 Luciferian wrote:
Sorry to rain on your parade, but I wouldn't hold my breath until I saw something a little more substantial than hearsay from low-level GW employees who have no real connection to Nottingham. Is it likely that GW will release plastic Sisters some day? I'd say so. Is there any reason to believe that it will be in January 2018? Without any credible evidence, I'd say no.

To me, you're just another naysayer, having fun naysaying. Yes, I know. I've been told a thousand times every time Sisters of Battle rumors come about. I'm familiar with disappointment. Thank you for adding your voice to the incredible clamor that are the naysayers.

And one day, when they do come out, I'll stand atop the naysayers and laugh as my wallet leaks green tears into the hands of GW just so I can build myself a house made entirely of plastic sisters of battle models and sprues.

Well, there's always someone saying something negative and if you wait long enough it comes true. To which no-one really cares at that point because it was just a matter of time. I guess the same could be applied to positive things as well - *today* is the day that trump astounds the world with his political acumen. If you want to laugh and leak money into gw, you could do that now. What makes plastic sisters better than metal sisters if you really love them that much? I doubt there'll be much price difference.

You missed the mark entirely.

A. Sisters of Battle getting plastic models is inevitable. Other things, such as 'the sky is gunna be purple, I guarantee it!' are simply not factual and you look silly claiming them. I realize how hopeless hoping for Sisters of Battle is. People don't need to remind me on a daily basis. I'm the only person in this whole topic hounding on this topic. Have you noticed? The half dozen or so of you are literally just trying to convince me of your negativity. I am a beacon of hope for the Sisters of Battle and I'll be getting three of everything when the line finally comes out.
B. Metal models lack detail, convertability, and ease of building and painting that plastic models do. I'm amazed I even have to explain this.
C. I have metal sisters. I love them, but I can't wait to expand my force with plastic models. There will be a fantastic difference, probably in level of detail, size, and maybe even some new units that I don't have. I look forward to the painting challenge.

drbored wrote:

 Torga_DW wrote:

drbored wrote:

 Luciferian wrote:
Sorry to rain on your parade, but I wouldn't hold my breath until I saw something a little more substantial than hearsay from low-level GW employees who have no real connection to Nottingham. Is it likely that GW will release plastic Sisters some day? I'd say so. Is there any reason to believe that it will be in January 2018? Without any credible evidence, I'd say no.

To me, you're just another naysayer, having fun naysaying. Yes, I know. I've been told a thousand times every time Sisters of Battle rumors come about. I'm familiar with disappointment. Thank you for adding your voice to the incredible clamor that are the naysayers.

And one day, when they do come out, I'll stand atop the naysayers and laugh as my wallet leaks green tears into the hands of GW just so I can build myself a house made entirely of plastic sisters of battle models and sprues.

Well, there's always someone saying something negative and if you wait long enough it comes true. To which no-one really cares at that point because it was just a matter of time. I guess the same could be applied to positive things as well - *today* is the day that trump astounds the world with his political acumen. If you want to laugh and leak money into gw, you could do that now. What makes plastic sisters better than metal sisters if you really love them that much? I doubt there'll be much price difference.

You missed the mark entirely.

A. Sisters of Battle getting plastic models is inevitable. Other things, such as 'the sky is gunna be purple, I guarantee it!' are simply not factual and you look silly claiming them. I realize how hopeless hoping for Sisters of Battle is. People don't need to remind me on a daily basis. I'm the only person in this whole topic hounding on this topic. Have you noticed? The half dozen or so of you are literally just trying to convince me of your negativity. I am a beacon of hope for the Sisters of Battle and I'll be getting three of everything when the line finally comes out.
B. Metal models lack detail, convertability, and ease of building and painting that plastic models do. I'm amazed I even have to explain this.
C. I have metal sisters. I love them, but I can't wait to expand my force with plastic models. There will be a fantastic difference, probably in level of detail, size, and maybe even some new units that I don't have. I look forward to the painting challenge.

A. Something bad happening eventually is inevitable. Sisters going into plastic isn't. Hell, they could re-release squats at this point (omg i've been waiting since 2nd, it's inevitable!), length of time spent languishing doesn't increase odds of happening. But you're right in part, it could happen.
B. Metal models tend to have better detail than plastics. Get a frother to explain the differences, they're noticeable. Plastic models are more easily convertable, that's for certain. And cheaper to produce (although not cheaper to buy from gw). A 1-piece metal model is easier to build than a multi-piece plastic, and probably less difficult to paint (few gaps).
C. I honestly hope you get them. Why not? I just don't think it's inevitable. Possible? Probable? Sure, why not. But as i said earlier, why are they the only gw kit still available in metal when everything else went to resin? There's no fundamental difference. The only reason to makes sense to me is that they made a ton of them expecting them to sell, and they didn't. The line has shrunk over the years. But again, i'm quite happy to be wrong here. I don't lose anything if i am.

B is the only thing I see fit to reply to.

HAVE YOU SEEN THE NEW PLASTICS??? Holy crap the new Triumvirate of the Imperium with Celestine and Greyfax is GORGEOUS. I have the metal models right next to them and there is NO COMPARISON in detail. Metal models are clunky and, yes, often only two pieces, which means even MORE detail is sacrificed! Sleves of the robes are just whole chunks of metal!

Meanwhile, Greyfax has incredibly intricate detail, and building the new plastic models is a JOY! I was FRUSTRATED when the only piece I had to put together on my metal sisters was the backpack. The rest of the model is all one piece and it's awful! I LOVE building! I can't wait for the plastics because I'm sure they will be a joy to build, with lots of different options and beautiful detail across the model.

Simply put, you are dead wrong about GW's metal models having more detail, or in any way being better, than their new plastics.

drbored wrote:
B is the only thing I see fit to reply to.

HAVE YOU SEEN THE NEW PLASTICS??? Holy crap the new Triumvirate of the Imperium with Celestine and Greyfax is GORGEOUS. I have the metal models right next to them and there is NO COMPARISON in detail. Metal models are clunky and, yes, often only two pieces, which means even MORE detail is sacrificed! Sleves of the robes are just whole chunks of metal!

Meanwhile, Greyfax has incredibly intricate detail, and building the new plastic models is a JOY! I was FRUSTRATED when the only piece I had to put together on my metal sisters was the backpack. The rest of the model is all one piece and it's awful! I LOVE building! I can't wait for the plastics because I'm sure they will be a joy to build, with lots of different options and beautiful detail across the model.

Simply put, you are dead wrong about GW's metal models having more detail, or in any way being better, than their new plastics.

Good for you, i'm happy to continue the discussion. You're comparing modern plastics to old metals? Again, get someone who is interested to explain the differences. Completely disregard me, i don't have a problem with that. If you're genuinely interested, seek out the information. It has to do with slides and undercuts and the like, which aren't of interest to me so i don't really pay attention other than to note it. But basically, you can make multi-part metals that are way better in detail than multi-part plastics. There are a few reasons to go with plastic (myself, i prefer plastic). But detail isn't one of them.

 Torga_DW wrote:

drbored wrote:
B is the only thing I see fit to reply to.

HAVE YOU SEEN THE NEW PLASTICS??? Holy crap the new Triumvirate of the Imperium with Celestine and Greyfax is GORGEOUS. I have the metal models right next to them and there is NO COMPARISON in detail. Metal models are clunky and, yes, often only two pieces, which means even MORE detail is sacrificed! Sleves of the robes are just whole chunks of metal!

Meanwhile, Greyfax has incredibly intricate detail, and building the new plastic models is a JOY! I was FRUSTRATED when the only piece I had to put together on my metal sisters was the backpack. The rest of the model is all one piece and it's awful! I LOVE building! I can't wait for the plastics because I'm sure they will be a joy to build, with lots of different options and beautiful detail across the model.

Simply put, you are dead wrong about GW's metal models having more detail, or in any way being better, than their new plastics.

Good for you, i'm happy to continue the discussion. You're comparing modern plastics to old metals? Again, get someone who is interested to explain the differences. Completely disregard me, i don't have a problem with that. If you're genuinely interested, seek out the information. It has to do with slides and undercuts and the like, which aren't of interest to me so i don't really pay attention other than to note it. But basically, you can make multi-part metals that are way better in detail than multi-part plastics. There are a few reasons to go with plastic (myself, i prefer plastic). But detail isn't one of them.

I've been all over the hobby world and have yet to see a metal model that comes even remotely close to the detail of GW's new plastics.

Malifaux maybe comes close? Warmachines certainly doesn't. And even in the cases that they do, you're just begging for those bits to fall off under the bad connection of superglue. Pinning is a huge pain, but none of that is a problem with plastics and plastic glue.

How about you don't bring up a conversation you don't know about if you're not ready to properly defend it? This is the Internet boyo. Come on now.

drbored wrote:

 Torga_DW wrote:

drbored wrote:
B is the only thing I see fit to reply to.

HAVE YOU SEEN THE NEW PLASTICS??? Holy crap the new Triumvirate of the Imperium with Celestine and Greyfax is GORGEOUS. I have the metal models right next to them and there is NO COMPARISON in detail. Metal models are clunky and, yes, often only two pieces, which means even MORE detail is sacrificed! Sleves of the robes are just whole chunks of metal!

Meanwhile, Greyfax has incredibly intricate detail, and building the new plastic models is a JOY! I was FRUSTRATED when the only piece I had to put together on my metal sisters was the backpack. The rest of the model is all one piece and it's awful! I LOVE building! I can't wait for the plastics because I'm sure they will be a joy to build, with lots of different options and beautiful detail across the model.

Simply put, you are dead wrong about GW's metal models having more detail, or in any way being better, than their new plastics.

Good for you, i'm happy to continue the discussion. You're comparing modern plastics to old metals? Again, get someone who is interested to explain the differences. Completely disregard me, i don't have a problem with that. If you're genuinely interested, seek out the information. It has to do with slides and undercuts and the like, which aren't of interest to me so i don't really pay attention other than to note it. But basically, you can make multi-part metals that are way better in detail than multi-part plastics. There are a few reasons to go with plastic (myself, i prefer plastic). But detail isn't one of them.

I've been all over the hobby world and have yet to see a metal model that comes even remotely close to the detail of GW's new plastics.

Malifaux maybe comes close? Warmachines certainly doesn't. And even in the cases that they do, you're just begging for those bits to fall off under the bad connection of superglue. Pinning is a huge pain, but none of that is a problem with plastics and plastic glue.

How about you don't bring up a conversation you don't know about if you're not ready to properly defend it? This is the Internet boyo. Come on now.

Again, you're comparing old models to new ones. Yeah, connections is an issue, you there's plenty of info on the common wisdom of pinning metal models compared to not. And plastics certainly beats that.

As for the internet 'boyo', i'm sharing information i've acquired over years of trawling it. I don't list it in my 'defence' because i'm interested in 'winning'. It's just something that i've noted from reading people who *are* interested in the topic. Metal minis (due to their casting nature) have more detail possible than plastics. Yes, gw plastics have improved a great deal since they first started. I'm quite happy to 'lose' this discussion - i'll let you 'win' and ungracefuly bow out. But from all the information i've gathered, metals have the potential for more detail. You win?

 Torga_DW wrote:

drbored wrote:

 Torga_DW wrote:

drbored wrote:
B is the only thing I see fit to reply to.

HAVE YOU SEEN THE NEW PLASTICS??? Holy crap the new Triumvirate of the Imperium with Celestine and Greyfax is GORGEOUS. I have the metal models right next to them and there is NO COMPARISON in detail. Metal models are clunky and, yes, often only two pieces, which means even MORE detail is sacrificed! Sleves of the robes are just whole chunks of metal!

Meanwhile, Greyfax has incredibly intricate detail, and building the new plastic models is a JOY! I was FRUSTRATED when the only piece I had to put together on my metal sisters was the backpack. The rest of the model is all one piece and it's awful! I LOVE building! I can't wait for the plastics because I'm sure they will be a joy to build, with lots of different options and beautiful detail across the model.

Simply put, you are dead wrong about GW's metal models having more detail, or in any way being better, than their new plastics.

Good for you, i'm happy to continue the discussion. You're comparing modern plastics to old metals? Again, get someone who is interested to explain the differences. Completely disregard me, i don't have a problem with that. If you're genuinely interested, seek out the information. It has to do with slides and undercuts and the like, which aren't of interest to me so i don't really pay attention other than to note it. But basically, you can make multi-part metals that are way better in detail than multi-part plastics. There are a few reasons to go with plastic (myself, i prefer plastic). But detail isn't one of them.

I've been all over the hobby world and have yet to see a metal model that comes even remotely close to the detail of GW's new plastics.

Malifaux maybe comes close? Warmachines certainly doesn't. And even in the cases that they do, you're just begging for those bits to fall off under the bad connection of superglue. Pinning is a huge pain, but none of that is a problem with plastics and plastic glue.

How about you don't bring up a conversation you don't know about if you're not ready to properly defend it? This is the Internet boyo. Come on now.

Again, you're comparing old models to new ones. Yeah, connections is an issue, you there's plenty of info on the common wisdom of pinning metal models compared to not. And plastics certainly beats that.

As for the internet 'boyo', i'm sharing information i've acquired over years of trawling it. I don't list it in my 'defence' because i'm interested in 'winning'. It's just something that i've noted from reading people who *are* interested in the topic. Metal minis (due to their casting nature) have more detail possible than plastics. Yes, gw plastics have improved a great deal since they first started. I'm quite happy to 'lose' this discussion - i'll let you 'win' and ungracefuly bow out. But from all the information i've gathered, metals have the potential for more detail. You win?

This is ridiculous anyway.

GW no longer does metal models.

You presented the argument saying simply 'Metal models tend to have better detail than plastics.' in a topic about Sisters of Battle getting plastic miniatures. Of course I'm going to compare the old ones versus the new plastics, because that's all there is to compare? I really don't understand why you dove into this. Metal models lack detail. I've been running around the internet and the only thing I can find is that due to the way casting is done, metal miniatures can have a larger variety of /angles/ of detail, but not the same resolution of detail as resin or plastic. And the way that GW constructs their models on the sprue to be built, those higher variety of angles is completely irrelevant.

But hey, in a topic filled of naysayers trying to convince me I'm wrong for believing a silly Internet rumor about a tiny niche tabletop game of toy soldiers, I finally win one, so yay.

Yes, GW no longer does metal models. They also no longer do new Sisters minis-- haven't done that since, IIRC, late third / early fourth edition, barring Celestine. Again, the last time they released Celestine, they took her away from Sisters at the time they released her, and only later gave her back in the index.

Both of these can change, if GW wants them to. Plastic Sisters is more likely than new metals. But only if GW wants them to. They have shown no desire to release new Sisters minis. They have built up absolutely no hype at all for a new miniature release, like they did for other miniature releases. There is no reason to believe Sisters minis are coming any time soon.

drbored wrote:
There are rumors and tidbits that are pointing to January 2018 or around that timeframe. Here's hoping.

I have some pretty strong rumors that Sisters are not coming in January 2018. Get Pretre to add me to the rumor tracker because I have tons of other very reliable rumors:
- Sisters of Battle are not coming in February 2018
- Sisters of Battle are not coming in March 2018
- Sisters of Battle are not coming in April 2018
- Sisters of Battle are not coming in May 2018
- Sisters of Battle are not coming in June 2018
- Sisters of Battle are not coming in July 2018
- Sisters of Battle are not coming in September 2018
- Sisters of Battle are not coming in November 2018
[...]
- Sisters of Battle are not coming in December 2020
I'm pretty confident I'm going to beat Hastings, Lady Atia and co as the most reliable source of rumors!

drbored wrote:
And one day, when they do come out, I'll stand atop the naysayers

Wait, why would you stand atop us? Even if it does happen, we will have been right many many more times than you were .

drbored wrote:
Sisters of Battle getting plastic models is inevitable.

You are mistaken. You and me and all our loved ones dying and being forgotten is inevitable. The end of all life on earth as the sun dies is inevitable. Disappointment is inevitable. But plastics Sisters of Battle? Could very well never happen. I'm in a positive mood today!

drbored wrote:
We're moving forward, she's in the Codex, she's a plastic Sister of Battle, and we're waiting for the rest of the plastic army to come in. Where is the break in logic?

In the 13 years between the first plastic Sister of Battle release and the second Sister of Battle release. That's the break in logic. By that time, assuming 3 more kits (foot Sisters, seraphims, exorcist) we'll get an army (well, 5 kits...) in 40 years .

Alright, I'm done. I said all I needed to say and over again 10 times.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

drbored wrote:
There are rumors and tidbits that are pointing to January 2018 or around that timeframe. Here's hoping.

I have some pretty strong rumors that Sisters are not coming in January 2018. Get Pretre to add me to the rumor tracker because I have tons of other very reliable rumors:
- Sisters of Battle are not coming in February 2018
- Sisters of Battle are not coming in March 2018
- Sisters of Battle are not coming in April 2018
- Sisters of Battle are not coming in May 2018
- Sisters of Battle are not coming in June 2018
- Sisters of Battle are not coming in July 2018
- Sisters of Battle are not coming in September 2018
- Sisters of Battle are not coming in November 2018
[...]
- Sisters of Battle are not coming in December 2020

True, they will come in December 2017 :p

Ok jk. But i really do hope we do see plastic SoBs before 2020 atleast...


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 Torga_DW wrote:

B. Metal models tend to have better detail than plastics. Get a frother to explain the differences, they're noticeable. Plastic models are more easily convertable, that's for certain. And cheaper to produce (although not cheaper to buy from gw). A 1-piece metal model is easier to build than a multi-piece plastic, and probably less difficult to paint (few gaps).

10 years ago i would have agreed with you.

But as of today GW plastic models totally beat any GW Metal models by miles when it comes to details.
Plastic models don't fall apart like metal models.
Plastic models don't chip & bend like metal models.
Plastic models have an much easier time holding paint and primer over metal models.
Plastic is easy to convert.
If i drop a plastic model i know i don't need to worry about it shattering into a thousand pieces.
Metal is just too heavy and a pain to transport if you have an army with nearly only metal models.
[...]

I am so glad GW doesn't produce anymore the heavy, clunky & undetailed metal models...


Plastic > Resin > Metal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finecast :p

Metal and Resin has better detail. Thats just a fact of the medium. I prefer still Plastic over those other two mediums, but every one has their virtues and malus.

You can't compare GW plastic with GW metals of 10-15-20 years ago.
You need to compare GW plastics with other companies metals of resins.
Or even better, compare the same kit in Plastic and in Resin. Kingdom of Death for example, or Space Marines characters and Terminators from FW's resin or GW's plastic.

Himmelweiss wrote:
Ok jk. But i really do hope we do see plastic SoBs before 2020 atleast...

I would love plastic SoB before 2020. But I don't hope for it. Not anymore.

 Galas wrote:
You need to compare GW plastics with other companies metals of resins.
Or even better, compare the same kit in Plastic and in Resin. Kingdom of Death for example, or Space Marines characters and Terminators from FW's resin or GW's plastic.

Are there still companies doing high-quality metal models? I know GW doesn't, neither do Privateer Press I think, and while I really really love my Heroines in Sensible Shoes models, I can't argue that the sculpt has very crisp details or anything.

Been watching this conversation, and I have 2 questions.

1) Why so much arguing over metal versus plastic? If GW makes more SoB they will be plastic. Period. (I mean, when was the last time they made a metal mini?)

2) What was the level of hype over the newer Eldar models? BaC? Tau Tidewall? New T-Sons?

Arcanis161 wrote:
Been watching this conversation, and I have 2 questions.

1) Why so much arguing over metal versus plastic? If GW makes more SoB they will be plastic. Period. (I mean, when was the last time they made a metal mini?)

2) What was the level of hype over the newer Eldar models? BaC? Tau Tidewall? New T-Sons?

1) for me, it was the contention that new sisters would have more detail because they were plastic. Yes, gw's plastic kits have gotten better and better over time. But if they were hypothetically metal, and gw still worked in metal, the detail would be better than in plastic. That's all. I just disagreed with the contention that plastic was superior in detail. Plastic has a lot going for it, and i'm personally glad gw have moved into a more 'all plastic' paradigm - for the things that matter to me, i prefer plastic. It was just a technicality that irked me.

2)The models, or the models and the rules that came with them? From a pure models perspective, it was pretty good. The new eldar jetbikes, for example, were leaps and bounds better than the old ones. From a rules/models perspective? In general, it depended if you played the army in question lol.

 Galas wrote:
Metal and Resin has better detail. Thats just a fact of the medium. I prefer still Plastic over those other two mediums, but every one has their virtues and malus.

I dont really think this is a thing anymore, Plastics are insanely highly detail now days, i mean even the 10yr old Beastman are really detailedfor its age, GW wanting to make higher details in plastic with new kits is a different story, but i'm not convinced resign/metal is higher detail.

 Torga_DW wrote:

Arcanis161 wrote:
Been watching this conversation, and I have 2 questions.

1) Why so much arguing over metal versus plastic? If GW makes more SoB they will be plastic. Period. (I mean, when was the last time they made a metal mini?)

2) What was the level of hype over the newer Eldar models? BaC? Tau Tidewall? New T-Sons?

1) for me, it was the contention that new sisters would have more detail because they were plastic. Yes, gw's plastic kits have gotten better and better over time. But if they were hypothetically metal, and gw still worked in metal, the detail would be better than in plastic. That's all. I just disagreed with the contention that plastic was superior in detail. Plastic has a lot going for it, and i'm personally glad gw have moved into a more 'all plastic' paradigm - for the things that matter to me, i prefer plastic. It was just a technicality that irked me.

2)The models, or the models and the rules that came with them? From a pure models perspective, it was pretty good. The new eldar jetbikes, for example, were leaps and bounds better than the old ones. From a rules/models perspective? In general, it depended if you played the army in question lol.

I meant hype generated by GW over the releases.

GW hyped them about the same as every other release that's not a new edition or box set. I think the reactions were pretty good across those lines. People were VERY pleased with Thousand Sons, as that was a beloved kit that was really showing its age. Same with those Eldar jetbikes and Dire Avengers. BaC was also really exciting, since people had been waiting for 30k plastics. The Tau Tidewall... I don't really know that that was received all that well. It was a piece of terrain and I feel like people would have preferred other models.

That said, and this is anecdotal and biased, I don't think any potential new kits get as much excitement and argument than Sisters of Battle. They're almost on the level of meme as Squats, where people mention them just to be silly.

All the other factions are pretty content. Everyone knows that Orks, Chaos Marines, Eldar, Necron, and a few other factions do need some updated models, but on the whole they've all gotten some good attention over the past couple years.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

Himmelweiss wrote:
Ok jk. But i really do hope we do see plastic SoBs before 2020 atleast...

I would love plastic SoB before 2020. But I don't hope for it. Not anymore.

 Galas wrote:
You need to compare GW plastics with other companies metals of resins.
Or even better, compare the same kit in Plastic and in Resin. Kingdom of Death for example, or Space Marines characters and Terminators from FW's resin or GW's plastic.

Are there still companies doing high-quality metal models? I know GW doesn't, neither do Privateer Press I think, and while I really really love my Heroines in Sensible Shoes models, I can't argue that the sculpt has very crisp details or anything.

From the back of my head the only one that I remember doing metal models is Mierce.

 Amishprn86 wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Metal and Resin has better detail. Thats just a fact of the medium. I prefer still Plastic over those other two mediums, but every one has their virtues and malus.

I dont really think this is a thing anymore, Plastics are insanely highly detail now days, i mean even the 10yr old Beastman are really detailedfor its age, GW wanting to make higher details in plastic with new kits is a different story, but i'm not convinced resign/metal is higher detail.

It surely is a thing still.
Look here for example, they explaing it very well:
http://betweenthebolterandme.blogspot.com.es/2014/05/kingdom-death-plastic-or-resin.html
Plastic just isn't as good for 3D shapes and organic shapes. It because metal and Resin are cast as 3D models whenever plastic are casted in sprues, they are 2D, and so they have to sacrifice "deep" (in the sense of volume). But you are correct in that the plastic technology has reached a point where the difference between plastic and Resin can be minor if the plastic miniature is good enough.
And for all the others virtues of plastic, personally I prefer it much more than resin (And metal).
But still, I buy some resin miniatures like monsters from Mierce. Those sculpts, you can't encounter them in plastic.

You mean all the Green stuff to make it work?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GFIDwdiKikM/U3A7j8DO7gI/AAAAAAAAAxE/M1y2f9Y6WCI/s1600/Storm+Knight+1.png

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-W-nMVCx2cf8/U3BCfJm8GmI/AAAAAAAAAx0/PJI3sdymcDI/s1600/King's+Hand.png


Here are some from GW
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/exalted-sorcerers
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Bestigors

Honestly the quality is the same to me, the Bestigors are really old but have fur and chainmeal (lots of small details) and the Sorcerers are close to detail, just has more flat spots b.c thats gw style (SM armor ish). But the staffs also have nice detail symbols in them as well.

Resin for sure is easier to work more details but that doesnt mean its a clear winner.

Well, for me it isn't a thing anymore.

I prefer plastic like almost everyone else here.
Resin can be awesome but i still prefer plastic.
Metal... to me the quality of modern metal is just the same as modern plastic.
Finecast, i am glad it's nearly gone...


Now where are our SoB plastic models? :/

 Galas wrote:
Metal and Resin has better detail. Thats just a fact of the medium. I prefer still Plastic over those other two mediums, but every one has their virtues and malus.

You can't compare GW plastic with GW metals of 10-15-20 years ago.
You need to compare GW plastics with other companies metals of resins.
Or even better, compare the same kit in Plastic and in Resin. Kingdom of Death for example, or Space Marines characters and Terminators from FW's resin or GW's plastic.

I feel like plastic is just...cleaner. But my only frame of reference is old GW models so I’ll shut up.

Maybe a good comparison would be one of the Gemini and Veridian?