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So our traditional 1k tournament is around the corner and am trying different lists again.
First was 3 dakkabots + Cawl and tons of screening
2nd was a Stygies battalion with a crusader
Now I am going to try more sicarians and had this idea:
I normally have a stygies and a graia battalion, what if I put the sicarians infiltrators in the stygies battalion instead to have the possibility when going first, to deploy them normalla and let them scout ahead.
Are 6 Snipers way too much, although I do love them?
Current list at 998points is:
Stygies Bat:
Dominus+Manipulus
3 sniper teams ( are 6 snipers too much?)
8 infiltrators with tazer+ flechette
1 Dragoon for leadership ( Id like to have more, but I hate transporting them and the whole process of painting and assembling them)
1 Onager Icarus
1 Onager Neutronlaser( Should I swap it for another Icarus?)
0XFallen wrote: So our traditional 1k tournament is around the corner and am trying different lists again.
First was 3 dakkabots + Cawl and tons of screening
2nd was a Stygies battalion with a crusader
Now I am going to try more sicarians and had this idea:
I normally have a stygies and a graia battalion, what if I put the sicarians infiltrators in the stygies battalion instead to have the possibility when going first, to deploy them normalla and let them scout ahead.
Are 6 Snipers way too much, although I do love them?
Current list at 998points is:
Stygies Bat:
Dominus+Manipulus
3 sniper teams ( are 6 snipers too much?)
8 infiltrators with tazer+ flechette
1 Dragoon for leadership ( Id like to have more, but I hate transporting them and the whole process of painting and assembling them)
1 Onager Icarus
1 Onager Neutronlaser( Should I swap it for another Icarus?)
Breachers for Defense, Rangers & TA for Character Kills, Plasmaphrons & Onager for Tank Kills (or upgrade to Icarus instead?) & Ironstriders because the cognis autocannons - that is 12 autocannon shots per turn that for 1CP can get +2 to hit (ie. vs Alatoc Flyers?) manipulus for range...
you could mix & match forge worlds? e.g. Breachers as Graia (for deny), Ironstriders as Stygies for scout move?, Plasmaphrons as Ryza/Agrippina?
on your list personally I would keep the Neutron onager as you do not have a lot of other units in your list capable of killing tanks easily (not many other tanks in 1k will probably have an invulnerable save.
you could also swap the dragoon for an ironstrider as that can help take down flyers whilst still providing ld buffs?
no there are never enough snipers in an admech list...
0XFallen wrote: So our traditional 1k tournament is around the corner and am trying different lists again.
First was 3 dakkabots + Cawl and tons of screening
2nd was a Stygies battalion with a crusader
Now I am going to try more sicarians and had this idea:
I normally have a stygies and a graia battalion, what if I put the sicarians infiltrators in the stygies battalion instead to have the possibility when going first, to deploy them normalla and let them scout ahead.
Are 6 Snipers way too much, although I do love them?
Current list at 998points is:
Stygies Bat:
Dominus+Manipulus
3 sniper teams ( are 6 snipers too much?)
8 infiltrators with tazer+ flechette
1 Dragoon for leadership ( Id like to have more, but I hate transporting them and the whole process of painting and assembling them)
1 Onager Icarus
1 Onager Neutronlaser( Should I swap it for another Icarus?)
Breachers for Defense, Rangers & TA for Character Kills, Plasmaphrons & Onager for Tank Kills (or upgrade to Icarus instead?) & Ironstriders because the cognis autocannons - that is 12 autocannon shots per turn that for 1CP can get +2 to hit (ie. vs Alatoc Flyers?) manipulus for range...
you could mix & match forge worlds? e.g. Breachers as Graia (for deny), Ironstriders as Stygies for scout move?, Plasmaphrons as Ryza/Agrippina?
on your list personally I would keep the Neutron onager as you do not have a lot of other units in your list capable of killing tanks easily (not many other tanks in 1k will probably have an invulnerable save.
you could also swap the dragoon for an ironstrider as that can help take down flyers whilst still providing ld buffs?
no there are never enough snipers
in an admech list...
[/spoiler]
Haha, good. At the end of the day I want their Hqs to cower in fear.
Would you say a lascannon or autocannon for the ironstrider?
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0XFallen wrote: So our traditional 1k tournament is around the corner and am trying different lists again.
First was 3 dakkabots + Cawl and tons of screening
2nd was a Stygies battalion with a crusader
Now I am going to try more sicarians and had this idea:
I normally have a stygies and a graia battalion, what if I put the sicarians infiltrators in the stygies battalion instead to have the possibility when going first, to deploy them normalla and let them scout ahead.
Are 6 Snipers way too much, although I do love them?
Current list at 998points is:
Stygies Bat:
Dominus+Manipulus
3 sniper teams ( are 6 snipers too much?)
8 infiltrators with tazer+ flechette
1 Dragoon for leadership ( Id like to have more, but I hate transporting them and the whole process of painting and assembling them)
1 Onager Icarus
1 Onager Neutronlaser( Should I swap it for another Icarus?)
Breachers for Defense, Rangers & TA for Character Kills, Plasmaphrons & Onager for Tank Kills (or upgrade to Icarus instead?) & Ironstriders because the cognis autocannons - that is 12 autocannon shots per turn that for 1CP can get +2 to hit (ie. vs Alatoc Flyers?) manipulus for range...
you could mix & match forge worlds? e.g. Breachers as Graia (for deny), Ironstriders as Stygies for scout move?, Plasmaphrons as Ryza/Agrippina?
on your list personally I would keep the Neutron onager as you do not have a lot of other units in your list capable of killing tanks easily (not many other tanks in 1k will probably have an invulnerable save.
you could also swap the dragoon for an ironstrider as that can help take down flyers whilst still providing ld buffs?
no there are never enough snipers
in an admech list...
Haha, good. At the end of the day I want their Hqs to cower in fear.
Would you say a lascannon or autocannon for the ironstrider?
[/spoiler]
Personally I am quite liking Autocannons - it keeps them cheap (cheaper than a dragoon) and doubles the number of shots - I also do not tend to need the lascannons because at the moment I am running plasmaphrons & Neuton Onagers which tend to do the job of lascannons better.
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0XFallen wrote: So our traditional 1k tournament is around the corner and am trying different lists again.
First was 3 dakkabots + Cawl and tons of screening
2nd was a Stygies battalion with a crusader
Now I am going to try more sicarians and had this idea:
I normally have a stygies and a graia battalion, what if I put the sicarians infiltrators in the stygies battalion instead to have the possibility when going first, to deploy them normalla and let them scout ahead.
Are 6 Snipers way too much, although I do love them?
Current list at 998points is:
Stygies Bat:
Dominus+Manipulus
3 sniper teams ( are 6 snipers too much?)
8 infiltrators with tazer+ flechette
1 Dragoon for leadership ( Id like to have more, but I hate transporting them and the whole process of painting and assembling them)
1 Onager Icarus
1 Onager Neutronlaser( Should I swap it for another Icarus?)
Breachers for Defense, Rangers & TA for Character Kills, Plasmaphrons & Onager for Tank Kills (or upgrade to Icarus instead?) & Ironstriders because the cognis autocannons - that is 12 autocannon shots per turn that for 1CP can get +2 to hit (ie. vs Alatoc Flyers?) manipulus for range...
you could mix & match forge worlds? e.g. Breachers as Graia (for deny), Ironstriders as Stygies for scout move?, Plasmaphrons as Ryza/Agrippina?
on your list personally I would keep the Neutron onager as you do not have a lot of other units in your list capable of killing tanks easily (not many other tanks in 1k will probably have an invulnerable save.
you could also swap the dragoon for an ironstrider as that can help take down flyers whilst still providing ld buffs?
no there are never enough snipers
in an admech list...
Haha, good. At the end of the day I want their Hqs to cower in fear.
Would you say a lascannon or autocannon for the ironstrider?
[/spoiler]
Personally I am quite liking Autocannons - it keeps them cheap (cheaper than a dragoon) and doubles the number of shots - I also do not tend to need the lascannons because at the moment I am running plasmaphrons & Neuton Onagers which tend to do the job of lascannons better.
[/spoiler]
Missed your list, especially breacher certainly do look appealing now, I do not own the models though.
Yup, in my list there is very little for traditional anti-infantry weapons to shoot at effectivly (e.g. bolters & IG mortars/lasguns etc.) - my opponents tank killing weapons will struggle to kill all of the kataphrons as well as the ironstriders & onagers before you take them out in return. especially at 1k points.
unfortunatly there is not much CP available in the list though.
Redemption wrote: Also note the box this supposedly discounted box with 6 Kastelans, 3 Data Smiths and a Dominus:
Yup, but personally I will not be buying it - I already have 8 bots (4x Phosphor, 4x Fists) and more dominus & datasmiths than I know what to do with...
Depending on the deal, I could go for that. Just starting, have no bots yet.
I feel like I need to paint the Higgins transport with the D-day black-and-white stripes then pester the local Krieg player to play the defender.
Do you guys know of any good third-party means of picking up some Transauric Arquebuses for the Rangers? You only get one per squad of 10, and I'm not looking to get that many Rangers.
bmsattler wrote: Depending on the deal, I could go for that. Just starting, have no bots yet.
I feel like I need to paint the Higgins transport with the D-day black-and-white stripes then pester the local Krieg player to play the defender.
Do you guys know of any good third-party means of picking up some Transauric Arquebuses for the Rangers? You only get one per squad of 10, and I'm not looking to get that many Rangers.
Use the Chickens Radium Jezzail, or glue 2 Galvanics together, and give it some kind of cool barrel extention
Redemption wrote: Also note the box this supposedly discounted box with 6 Kastelans, 3 Data Smiths and a Dominus:
Yup, but personally I will not be buying it - I already have 8 bots (4x Phosphor, 4x Fists) and more dominus & datasmiths than I know what to do with...
Yeah who needs Datasmiths anyway. And we already have tons of them and tons of the Domini which arent really customizable too.
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At the very least it would have been great to include a Manipulus because i bet a lot of people DONT already have 3+ of them.
I already too many dominus...
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6000pts Admech/Knights
7500pts Necron Goldboys
Vineheart01 wrote: At the very least it would have been great to include a Manipulus because i bet a lot of people DONT already have 3+ of them.
I already too many dominus...
Ah but then what reason would people have to buy the kill team box...?
Yeah not giving us a manipulus was a major good. I swear someone at GWhq must've accidentally printed like a million dominuses, I can't think of any other reason why they throw them in every single box when we have 2 other perfectly good HQ's.
The box is tempting but it'll all come down to price. I already have 4 bots magnetized so I really don't need 6 more, but if apoc is fun I guess it'd be interesting to try, and 10 bots in a 2k game would be a fun thing to do once or twice. It's gonna have to be cheap enough to justify a useless Dominus and 3 datasmiths I'll never use.
Also not knowing the rules for the skimmer is killing me and releasing it at the same time as apocalypse is rough, I'm not gonna be able to afford multiple skimmers and the apoc rules if they're any good.
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MrMoustaffa wrote: Yeah not giving us a manipulus was a major good. I swear someone at GWhq must've accidentally printed like a million dominuses, I can't think of any other reason why they throw them in every single box when we have 2 other perfectly good HQ's.
The box is tempting but it'll all come down to price. I already have 4 bots magnetized so I really don't need 6 more, but if apoc is fun I guess it'd be interesting to try, and 10 bots in a 2k game would be a fun thing to do once or twice. It's gonna have to be cheap enough to justify a useless Dominus and 3 datasmiths I'll never use.
Also not knowing the rules for the skimmer is killing me and releasing it at the same time as apocalypse is rough, I'm not gonna be able to afford multiple skimmers and the apoc rules if they're any good.
The box is good for people starting off. If i was a new player with only 1 start collecting box in my collection, instantly getting a squad of kastellan could be a good buy (even if i dont really play them anymore).
We can expect the rules to come out this week so its just a little bit more waiting before we (hopefully) arent dissapointed. A friend of mine had the idea that since the apoc box has kastellans and the skorpius is getting released in the same wave, the transport might be able to transport them. I feel like this would be pretty strong, but im 0% convinced that this will be a thing.
So when the rules get released are we going to come through with making a new thread as was discussed when the skorpius was first spoiled?.
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MrMoustaffa wrote: Yeah not giving us a manipulus was a major good. I swear someone at GWhq must've accidentally printed like a million dominuses, I can't think of any other reason why they throw them in every single box when we have 2 other perfectly good HQ's.
As silly as it may sound, the reason might be that they're getting ready to drop a new/revised Start Collecting set this year for AdMech and all the Dominus from what was a hot ticket item before has suddenly been found unnecessary.
I haven’t messed with my admech in a while and I wanting to get everyone’s opinion on this list. It’s going to be for the ITC mission format. I’ve run my knights a lot but I’m looking for some anti infantry support from the Dakka bots CC please
Cybernetica Datasmith [3 PL, 41pts]: Gamma Pistol, Power fist
+ Heavy Support +
Kastelan Robots [18 PL, 330pts] . Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
Exalted Court [-3CP]: Exalted Court: 2 Extra Warlord Traits
Heirlooms of the Household [-3CP]: Heirlooms of the Household: 2 Extra Heirlooms
Household Choice: Questor Mechanicus
. House Taranis
+ Lord of War +
Knight Crusader [25 PL, 468pts]: Character (Knight Lance), Heavy Stubber, Heirloom: Endless Fury, Ironstorm Missile Pod, Thermal Cannon, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Ion Bulwark
. Avenger Gatling Cannon w/ Heavy Flamer: Avenger Gatling Cannon, Heavy Flamer
Knight Errant [22 PL, 398pts]: Character (Exalted Court), Character (Heirloom of the House), Heavy Stubber, Heirloom (Taranis): Fury of Mars, Thermal Cannon, Thunderstrike gauntlet, Warlord Trait: Knight Seneschal
Knight Preceptor [23 PL, 417pts]: Character (Exalted Court), Character (Heirloom of the House), Heavy Stubber, Heirloom: Armour of the Sainted Ion, Reaper Chainsword, Warlord Trait: Blessed by the Sacristans
Drdotts wrote: I haven’t messed with my admech in a while and I wanting to get everyone’s opinion on this list. It’s going to be for the ITC mission format. I’ve run my knights a lot but I’m looking for some anti infantry support from the Dakka bots CC please
Cybernetica Datasmith [3 PL, 41pts]: Gamma Pistol, Power fist
+ Heavy Support +
Kastelan Robots [18 PL, 330pts] . Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
Exalted Court [-3CP]: Exalted Court: 2 Extra Warlord Traits
Heirlooms of the Household [-3CP]: Heirlooms of the Household: 2 Extra Heirlooms
Household Choice: Questor Mechanicus
. House Taranis
+ Lord of War +
Knight Crusader [25 PL, 468pts]: Character (Knight Lance), Heavy Stubber, Heirloom: Endless Fury, Ironstorm Missile Pod, Thermal Cannon, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Ion Bulwark
. Avenger Gatling Cannon w/ Heavy Flamer: Avenger Gatling Cannon, Heavy Flamer
Knight Errant [22 PL, 398pts]: Character (Exalted Court), Character (Heirloom of the House), Heavy Stubber, Heirloom (Taranis): Fury of Mars, Thermal Cannon, Thunderstrike gauntlet, Warlord Trait: Knight Seneschal
Knight Preceptor [23 PL, 417pts]: Character (Exalted Court), Character (Heirloom of the House), Heavy Stubber, Heirloom: Armour of the Sainted Ion, Reaper Chainsword, Warlord Trait: Blessed by the Sacristans
Drdotts wrote: Without the datasmith how do I change the protocols?
pay 1 cp to change it permanently (Binaric override). Just make sure to position your kastellans in a good spot since they wont be able to move for the rest of the game after.
Automatically Appended Next Post: so someone posted the prices for the preorders on the skorpius
Drdotts wrote: Without the datasmith how do I change the protocols?
pay 1 cp to change it permanently (Binaric override). Just make sure to position your kastellans in a good spot since they wont be able to move for the rest of the game after.
Automatically Appended Next Post: so someone posted the prices for the preorders on the skorpius
£45? well I guess since you can make it to a dedcicated tank that kinda makes sense, that only 20 quid more than a Rhino for that extra option. Really need to see the stats and pts cost but at that price I'll pick up one for the my collection of nothing else.
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2500+ pts of Ad Mech
2000+ pts of Deathwatch
2000+ pts of Skaven
70USD? good god....
Pennies cheaper than a Landraider for probably Rhino durable level transport....ow...hope those stats are good when they get revealed because thats ridiculous.
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14000pts Big 'n Bad Orkz
6000pts Admech/Knights
7500pts Necron Goldboys
Vineheart01 wrote: 70USD? good god....
Pennies cheaper than a Landraider for probably Rhino durable level transport....ow...hope those stats are good when they get revealed because thats ridiculous.
i agree that its expensive but i dont think stats should have any say in the $price of a model. Its size should be what dictates its price. The skorpius being roughly land raider sized so the pricing isnt really a surprise to me.
I still want to see the stats (probably will be showcased this week, before preorders are up)
Vineheart01 wrote: 70USD? good god....
Pennies cheaper than a Landraider for probably Rhino durable level transport....ow...hope those stats are good when they get revealed because thats ridiculous.
i agree that its expensive but i dont think stats should have any say in the $price of a model. Its size should be what dictates its price. The skorpius being roughly land raider sized so the pricing isnt really a surprise to me.
I still want to see the stats (probably will be showcased this week, before preorders are up)
Mek Gunz would like a word with you
Models are half the size of a Trukk and 50USD each. Which is why vast majority of ork players kitbash them lol Theyre so good its hard to not use them, but that pricetag makes it easy to not use them anyway lol
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14000pts Big 'n Bad Orkz
6000pts Admech/Knights
7500pts Necron Goldboys
Vineheart01 wrote: 70USD? good god....
Pennies cheaper than a Landraider for probably Rhino durable level transport....ow...hope those stats are good when they get revealed because thats ridiculous.
i agree that its expensive but i dont think stats should have any say in the $price of a model. Its size should be what dictates its price. The skorpius being roughly land raider sized so the pricing isnt really a surprise to me.
I still want to see the stats (probably will be showcased this week, before preorders are up)
Mek Gunz would like a word with you
Models are half the size of a Trukk and 50USD each. Which is why vast majority of ork players kitbash them lol Theyre so good its hard to not use them, but that pricetag makes it easy to not use them anyway lol
Thats what i mean, Mek gunz's pricing is stupid, they are small models. The skorpius is going to be our biggest model so far, so it being more expensive than the rest is "logical". Its roughly the size of 4 dunecrawler hull (no legs).
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