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 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
The media reviews have got me worried. 4 stars for The Last Jedi

Why is this a concern for me? Because TFA got 5 stars across the board, and that was a burning sack of horsegak of a film, IMO, easily the worst in the franchise.

So, if they're saying that Last Jedi ain't as good as TFA...

Star ratings are meaningless. I like TFA (and having watched all eight films back to back, it's definitely superior to the prequels). if you give it 1/5 and I avoid watching it for that reason, then I've done myself a disservice. read some reviews, and see if you agree with the reasons for the ratings. Get familiar with reviewers, then you'll learn which ones have tastes that align with yours, and they'll be better for basing your judgements on than fifty anonymous internet "ratings".


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Off to the IMAX on Saturday lunchtime. Guess I'll need to stay off the Internet for a couple of days.

Or accept that your average reviewer likely isn't as into Star Wars as the average Star Wars fan - and that can colour the distinction between it being a good movie (well shot, decently acted, no plot holes etc) and a great Star Wars movie.

Me, I am massively overexcite for tonight. Waited so long to see this, and now I'm a mere.......13 hour and 13 minutes (ominous) from seeing it on the Big Screen.

And here's an interesting side though, if the Han Solo movie remains a May release, then next Christmas we'll be able to binge All Of Star Wars on our tellysetboxtvs - including Clone Wars and Rebels.

I tried to do that, actually - only to be stymied by the fact that Rebels is on a mid-season break until next year.

Its ... not that good an idea. The huge wodge of Clone Wars telly is good, but it ruins the narrative momentum of the central Skywalker saga.

Still totes worth doing, as I find it helps cleanse the brain of The Phantom Menace quite nicely, as it makes up for all that waste time.

Hmmm...can I get my hands on the two Ewok films, and as many episodes of Droids and Ewoks as possible, really go all out?

... and the Holiday Special?

Can't get that other than bootleg piracy, and that's something I opt out of every time.

But if it's officially released, sure!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
15 hours and 23 minutes!



Eeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!

We can probably do without the borderline spammy hourly countdown!

Not sure when I will be able to see the movie, so I might be avoiding this thread from Friday until (X)...

Are you sure?

Are you absolutely sure?

But on a serious note....I'm mostly hoping Phasma gets more screen time. She was a late addition to TFA, and I'm a big fan of the actress. Here's hoping she gets to be as much of a badbottom in this as she is in Game of Thrones.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
But on a serious note....I'm mostly hoping Phasma gets more screen time. She was a late addition to TFA, and I'm a big fan of the actress. Here's hoping she gets to be as much of a badbottom in this as she is in Game of Thrones.

All this talk of Phasma, there's only one stormtrooper for me

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 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
The media reviews have got me worried. 4 stars for The Last Jedi

Why is this a concern for me? Because TFA got 5 stars across the board, and that was a burning sack of horsegak of a film, IMO, easily the worst in the franchise.

So, if they're saying that Last Jedi ain't as good as TFA...

Star ratings are meaningless. I like TFA (and having watched all eight films back to back, it's definitely superior to the prequels). if you give it 1/5 and I avoid watching it for that reason, then I've done myself a disservice. read some reviews, and see if you agree with the reasons for the ratings. Get familiar with reviewers, then you'll learn which ones have tastes that align with yours, and they'll be better for basing your judgements on than fifty anonymous internet "ratings".


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Off to the IMAX on Saturday lunchtime. Guess I'll need to stay off the Internet for a couple of days.

The prequels were original and telling a story of the origins of our favorite characters. TFA was a new hope do over with and with a death star that isn't even cool "star killer base" OMG. There is no way you can honestly say it's better than the prequels.

Except like, it's all just opinion and that?

I don't think it is necessary to identify people's opinions (whether they be strong or not) as....their opinions.

Obvious thing is obvious?

Anyway, links to SPOILER FREE reviews will be greatly appreciated - thanks!

can anyone spoil it for me?
what are the big reveals?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Still totes worth doing, as I find it helps cleanse the brain of The Phantom Menace quite nicely, as it makes up for all that waste time.

Hmmm...can I get my hands on the two Ewok films, and as many episodes of Droids and Ewoks as possible, really go all out?

Why would you even watch the prequels if you feel that way? Wasting more time to clear out already wasted time is...well, it doesn't add weight to the narrative of the thread where only bad meanies could dislike TFA, and not discerning viewers.

The Ewok films used to be on YouTube. Now the only option to buy seems to be $60 DVds? I feel like the advice I want to give could start another Chinese recasting debate.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Can't get that other than bootleg piracy, and that's something I opt out of every time.

But if it's officially released, sure!

YouTube has enough snippets of it through various reviews and highlight vids that you should have no problem viewing it in its entirety, albeit not in linear order.

They have a 10:30 AM showing on Friday and my wife and I have the day off. Can't wait!

Well saw the film. Not bad, not good. Would be better without original trilogy imo. Now too match rehash. Though leaves me hope next film can't be rehash of originals but new.

Had it's moments. Loved first Luke scene and whole audience cracked laughter there.

7/10 for me.


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 LordofHats wrote:

Someone just let me know how much I got right sometime

Eerily close!

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Still totes worth doing, as I find it helps cleanse the brain of The Phantom Menace quite nicely, as it makes up for all that waste time.

Hmmm...can I get my hands on the two Ewok films, and as many episodes of Droids and Ewoks as possible, really go all out?

Why would you even watch the prequels if you feel that way? Wasting more time to clear out already wasted time is...well, it doesn't add weight to the narrative of the thread where only bad meanies could dislike TFA, and not discerning viewers.

I did it because I've not seen the prequels since they came out in the cinema, and I wanted to see if my opinion had subsequently been affected by public opinion. Turns out I still don't like 'em. I also wanted to see if the full story works as one large narrative. IMO, the TV series are good, but they spoil the flow of the films.


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Also, this may or may not be of interest. From the follow-up videos to the ones in the SFDebris link I posted earlier, Rotten Tomatoes scores for the first six episodes of Star Wars, based on contemporary professional reviews:
Star Wars: 79%
Revenge of the Sith: 68%
The Empire Strikes Back 52%
The Phantom Menace 40%
Attack of the Clones 37%
Return of the Jedi 31%

tneva82 wrote:
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 LordofHats wrote:

Someone just let me know how much I got right sometime

Eerily close!

Sweet. Thanks!

 Xenomancers wrote:

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
The media reviews have got me worried. 4 stars for The Last Jedi

Why is this a concern for me? Because TFA got 5 stars across the board, and that was a burning sack of horsegak of a film, IMO, easily the worst in the franchise.

So, if they're saying that Last Jedi ain't as good as TFA...

Star ratings are meaningless. I like TFA (and having watched all eight films back to back, it's definitely superior to the prequels). if you give it 1/5 and I avoid watching it for that reason, then I've done myself a disservice. read some reviews, and see if you agree with the reasons for the ratings. Get familiar with reviewers, then you'll learn which ones have tastes that align with yours, and they'll be better for basing your judgements on than fifty anonymous internet "ratings".


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Off to the IMAX on Saturday lunchtime. Guess I'll need to stay off the Internet for a couple of days.

The prequels were original and telling a story of the origins of our favorite characters. TFA was a new hope do over with and with a death star that isn't even cool "star killer base" OMG. There is no way you can honestly say it's better than the prequels.

No comedy combat robots in TFA,
No Jar Jar fethin Binks -

TFA awakens are better films QED.

The prequals are truely terrible films .

The prequels are like jazz: you have to watch the scenes that aren't in the film.

Honestly, I can grok the perspective that the prequels had originality, tried to paint a big picture and refresh the pool of Star Wars ideas. Unfortunately, I tend to fall more in with the "they suck" crowd. But I tend to judge movies more harshly than many...



I didn't realize the earlier video was from SF Debris. I'll have to watch it now. Chick is one of those reviewers I might not always agree with, but I respect his opinions because they are well thought and explained.

A beautiful, terrible movie with some great scenes and unexpected twists, but also highly self referential with annoying Disney-esque humor sums it up for me.

 Antario wrote:
A beautiful, terrible movie with some great scenes and unexpected twists, but also highly self referential with annoying Disney-esque humor sums it up for me.

Just watched it, and this sums up my feelings about it. Some reveals that I liked but slso tons of wasted opportunities. Were it not for the overbearing, misplaced humor it would be a mediocre movie. Disney made sure its a pretty terrible one.

That was effing amazing.

And once again, the trailer didn’t really show squat.

Humour didn’t bother me one jot. Remember folks, this is a family film. It’s not meant to be Poe faced....

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
That was effing amazing.

And once again, the trailer didn’t really show squat.

Humour didn’t bother me one jot. Remember folks, this is a family film. It’s not meant to be Poe faced....

I was pretty sure he was in the movie...

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Still totes worth doing, as I find it helps cleanse the brain of The Phantom Menace quite nicely, as it makes up for all that waste time.

Hmmm...can I get my hands on the two Ewok films, and as many episodes of Droids and Ewoks as possible, really go all out?

Why would you even watch the prequels if you feel that way? Wasting more time to clear out already wasted time is...well, it doesn't add weight to the narrative of the thread where only bad meanies could dislike TFA, and not discerning viewers.

I did it because I've not seen the prequels since they came out in the cinema, and I wanted to see if my opinion had subsequently been affected by public opinion. Turns out I still don't like 'em. I also wanted to see if the full story works as one large narrative. IMO, the TV series are good, but they spoil the flow of the films.


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Also, this may or may not be of interest. From the follow-up videos to the ones in the SFDebris link I posted earlier, Rotten Tomatoes scores for the first six episodes of Star Wars, based on contemporary professional reviews:
Star Wars: 79%
Revenge of the Sith: 68%
The Empire Strikes Back 52%
The Phantom Menace 40%
Attack of the Clones 37%
Return of the Jedi 31%

How is the Empire Strikes Back only 52%? That movie had some great scenes and provided the necessary dramatic elements after the Rebellion's victory in A New Hope. Also surprised that the Return of the Jedi was only 31%. I mean, I know it has Ewoks, but that's a little harsh, no?
And really, revenge of the Sith is 68%? That movie with Darth Edgelord Skywalker and the Nooooooo scene? Wut?

That list is just bloody odd.

Just seen the last jedi and I was pretty unimpressed, I was not expecting much after TFA but the comedic relief (most of which was not funny) every ten seconds was pretty grating as was the lack of in universe consistency. Space battles were good and loved the red dudes which were badass for mooks. Hamill really killed it as well.

 ingtaer wrote:
That list is just bloody odd.

Just seen the last jedi and I was pretty unimpressed, I was not expecting much after TFA but the comedic relief (most of which was not funny) every ten seconds was pretty grating as was the lack of in universe consistency. Space battles were good and loved the red dudes which were badass for mooks. Hamill really killed it as well.

Well he did say they were contemporary reviews (as in people who've gone back today/recently and reviewed the films.

Now stop and think for a moment about why someone would go back and review movies that are older than I am

Ah I read that as contemporary as in at that time.

Oh now that's just embarrassing XD No you were right. That is what contemporary means *contemplates total brain failure*