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What's this?

Either a kitbash or another $750 USD Forgeworld tank. I'd lean toward the latter since the sentence above says "very large Space Marine tank and a new book..." meaning they're probably discussing releases.

PS: Definitely FW --- just noticed the chapter markings.

PSS: Repulsor pads mean it might be some kind of super mega Primaris tank --- or suddenly they're doing the same Repulsor tech in HH.

Elder box set

Oh, that's a Start Collecting box I'd get for sure...actually want a second Dreadnought and some more wraithguard --- sell off the ugly walker and maaaaaybe keep the Farseer/Warlock.

85% sure it's gonna be a FW tank for the primaris marines, since it looks like three repulsors and a sicarian doing a human (or tank) pyramid and it has the red scorpion insignia on it (which is a FW chapter)


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Oh that Start Collecting box is sexy (I actually like warwalkers).

You can just make out the word 'Forge' above "... worlds of Warhammer.." so I agree its Forge World. Of course it would help if the OP would tell us the source of these pictures...

 Ghaz wrote:
Of course it would help if the OP would tell us the source of these pictures...

Not the OP, but it's going round Facebook. No idea of the original source.

Mega Primaris tank? Sign me up!

Ok, I'll still prefer a tank+10 Dire Avengers+1 Farseer but this is surely a sexy Eldar Start Collecting box.

Now imagine a Dark Angels one with 5 Deathwing Terminators, a Interrogator Chaplain, a Dreadnought and... and something more?

I also did chuckle a bit at the Eldar box, if only because Wraithguard are currently not troop choices - so again Eldar have a non-starting starter box...but it does perhaps signal that someone will be able to run Wraithguard as troops (read: Iyandan, etc.).

That's a nice Eldar box! I agree that it's weird that it still lacks troops though.

The only vague little bit of hope I get from seeing this...is GW refusing to use Guardians or Dire Avengers in these boxes. I hope it means perhaps they are being re-done for sometime in 2018 or something. Because a logical box could easily be:

Farseer
Guardians
Three bikes
War Walker

Would fit the box type, offer a small bit of savings, etc...and make tons of sense. So the avoidance of using them is curious to me.

I wouldn't be surprised if they have a new guardian box, since Storm Guardians are still using an extremely ancient conversion set (and it's not like it would be hard to put 10 extra pairs of arms on the sprue).

I think they're avoiding Avengers due to the infamous "charge the same, half the contents" fiasco that happened with them (and thankfully only with them).

Yep, given GW's recent style of plastics it wouldn't be hard to imagine a single box with Guardians, Storm Guardians and Dire Avengers all in one box...$40 for 10 or something along that line. It would make a ton of sense, but I also don't imagine getting a random Eldar kit without a full attack on the army --- and there's a ton of stuff before that would ever be a priority.

Especially since the 3rd edition Dire Avengers were literally guardians with a fancier helmet and a loin cloth.

 Cream Tea wrote:
That's a nice Eldar box! I agree that it's weird that it still lacks troops though.

I wonder if it's intended to be fielded as a complete detachment or just a "starting your collection" deal?

Of course, with the new Eldar book coming it's possible that Wraithguard are becoming Troops, which would allow this to be fielded as a Patrol.

1 HQ, 1 Troop, 1 Elite(Wraithlord is an Elite right?), and 1 Heavy Support would be a perfect way to do it.

Looks like it has a void shield generator in the rear.

That eldar set is great! I like warwalkers my self, and my eldar don't have any wraith guard or wraith lords in it so that would fit perfectly.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Cream Tea wrote:
That's a nice Eldar box! I agree that it's weird that it still lacks troops though.

I wonder if it's intended to be fielded as a complete detachment or just a "starting your collection" deal?

Of course, with the new Eldar book coming it's possible that Wraithguard are becoming Troops, which would allow this to be fielded as a Patrol.

1 HQ, 1 Troop, 1 Elite(Wraithlord is an Elite right?), and 1 Heavy Support would be a perfect way to do it.

Wraithlord is HS, Wraithguard/blades are elites.

I'm skeptical that they'd change that. Eldar have enough troops, and the ones they have make more sense as troops than Wraithguard do. Maybe Iyanden'll get them as troops.

 Elbows wrote:
Either a kitbash or another $750 USD Forgeworld tank. I'd lean toward the latter since the sentence above says "very large Space Marine tank and a new book..." meaning they're probably discussing releases.

PS: Definitely FW --- just noticed the chapter markings.

PSS: Repulsor pads mean it might be some kind of super mega Primaris tank --- or suddenly they're doing the same Repulsor tech in HH.

It won't be HH (or at least not HH only) because Red Scorpions didn't exist in the Heresy.

 Cream Tea wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Cream Tea wrote:
That's a nice Eldar box! I agree that it's weird that it still lacks troops though.

I wonder if it's intended to be fielded as a complete detachment or just a "starting your collection" deal?

Of course, with the new Eldar book coming it's possible that Wraithguard are becoming Troops, which would allow this to be fielded as a Patrol.

1 HQ, 1 Troop, 1 Elite(Wraithlord is an Elite right?), and 1 Heavy Support would be a perfect way to do it.

Wraithlord is HS, Wraithguard/blades are elites.

I'm skeptical that they'd change that. Eldar have enough troops, and the ones they have make more sense as troops than Wraithguard do. Maybe Iyanden'll get them as troops.

No one saw Scions becoming troops either but here we are. Plus Jetbikes got shifted from FA to Troops for 3 whole editions, so it's not like there's not a precedent even within the faction.

 Elbows wrote:
The only vague little bit of hope I get from seeing this...is GW refusing to use Guardians or Dire Avengers in these boxes. I hope it means perhaps they are being re-done for sometime in 2018 or something. Because a logical box could easily be:

Farseer
Guardians
Three bikes
War Walker

Would fit the box type, offer a small bit of savings, etc...and make tons of sense. So the avoidance of using them is curious to me.

Maybe they have realised how terrible guardians and bikes are in this edition, and so know that such a box set would never sell?

Farseers and war walkers are also not that great, and the war walker models are.... a bit chicken-walkery.

The wraiths in that box set are the big selling points, without them they wouldnt sell many boxes.

It looks like we have a little more from the source...

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/741851.page

 Elbows wrote:
The only vague little bit of hope I get from seeing this...is GW refusing to use Guardians or Dire Avengers in these boxes. I hope it means perhaps they are being re-done for sometime in 2018 or something. Because a logical box could easily be:

Farseer
Guardians
Three bikes
War Walker

Would fit the box type, offer a small bit of savings, etc...and make tons of sense. So the avoidance of using them is curious to me.

Guardians and Dire Avengers are already plastic, they don't need resculpts. Maybe Guardians, because they could integrate the Storm Guardian upgrade kit, but all the finecast kits should be higher on the list. Many of those are from the '90s.

Niiru wrote:
Maybe they have realised how terrible guardians and bikes are in this edition, and so know that such a box set would never sell?

Farseers and war walkers are also not that great, and the war walker models are.... a bit chicken-walkery.

The wraiths in that box set are the big selling points, without them they wouldnt sell many boxes.

Anything GW wants to be good can be made good by them. It's not like Eldar aren't getting a codex soon. I do see a reason for not including bikes - they don't want repeats between the two start collecting boxes, as that would slow down sells.

I personally don't like the look of the War Walker, but I know others do. Maybe they like Star Wars or something? Anyway, I'm getting that box, and I'm selling any Walkers I get. I don't have any Wraithguard or Farseers.

A combo of the Mastadon and a Repulsor- creating something uglier than both of them combined. At least it looks less like a GI Joe toy than the Mastadon.

Oh, don't get me started on how much of the Eldar line needs a new kit...while I run old metal Aspects (the best ones), I've pretty much come to conclusion that Aspect warriors will never get plastic kits (or will be removed by next edition in favour of new more GW-ish silliness, where the Ynnead or whatever will take over as the primary Eldar force).

When you have an Avatar from 1993...and GW releases plastic Eldar which include a new fancy special Avatar in 2017, you know damn well you're not going to get anything replaced.

 Elbows wrote:
Oh, don't get me started on how much of the Eldar line needs a new kit...while I run old metal Aspects (the best ones), I've pretty much come to conclusion that Aspect warriors will never get plastic kits (or will be removed by next edition in favour of new more GW-ish silliness, where the Ynnead or whatever will take over as the primary Eldar force).

When you have an Avatar from 1993...and GW releases plastic Eldar which include a new fancy special Avatar in 2017, you know damn well you're not going to get anything replaced.

I hope you're wrong. Eldar are pretty popular, so I don't think it'd be a bad idea to make plastic Aspect Warriors.

In any case, I don't think they'll cut Aspect Warriors. That'd piss far too many of their customers off. Maybe one or two Aspects, they could get away with that.

From the crates in the background this new tank actually looks to be as large if not larger than a baneblade, its huge! I'm betting 12-20 Primaris capacity.

 Cream Tea wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
The only vague little bit of hope I get from seeing this...is GW refusing to use Guardians or Dire Avengers in these boxes. I hope it means perhaps they are being re-done for sometime in 2018 or something. Because a logical box could easily be:

Farseer
Guardians
Three bikes
War Walker

Would fit the box type, offer a small bit of savings, etc...and make tons of sense. So the avoidance of using them is curious to me.

Guardians and Dire Avengers are already plastic, they don't need resculpts. Maybe Guardians, because they could integrate the Storm Guardian upgrade kit, but all the finecast kits should be higher on the list. Many of those are from the '90s.

Niiru wrote:
Maybe they have realised how terrible guardians and bikes are in this edition, and so know that such a box set would never sell?

Farseers and war walkers are also not that great, and the war walker models are.... a bit chicken-walkery.

The wraiths in that box set are the big selling points, without them they wouldnt sell many boxes.

Anything GW wants to be good can be made good by them. It's not like Eldar aren't getting a codex soon. I do see a reason for not including bikes - they don't want repeats between the two start collecting boxes, as that would slow down sells.

I personally don't like the look of the War Walker, but I know others do. Maybe they like Star Wars or something? Anyway, I'm getting that box, and I'm selling any Walkers I get. I don't have any Wraithguard or Farseers.

I love star wars, but the eldar war walkers aren't anything like star wars lol. The IG sentinel is from star wars, the eldar walker is... just silly. I keep trying to think of alternatives for it, or perhaps try and convert the model into something better, but it's hard because of how oddly balanced the model is to start with...

I already have 10 decently painted old metal wraithguard too, so those wraiths aren't hugely useful unless they have the wraithblades options in the box too. That would be good. If so, then I might pick up a box, just to get the blades and a new farseer and some bits for conversions.

beast_gts wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
Of course it would help if the OP would tell us the source of these pictures...

Not the OP, but it's going round Facebook. No idea of the original source.

I'm almost certain it's GW themselves that "leak" these images. They are always cropped just enough to be vague and quite often blurry.