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Cataphract wrote:
Magnus got Bamboozled

I would love to see this Avatar become a model

HuskyWarhammer wrote:

I would love to see this Avatar become a model

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Eldar-Avatar

Proper.

Now in plastic please

 Crazyterran wrote:
Why is an avatar there?

So he can get strangled to death, silly!

Eldrad is the new Yriel - pirate Farseer of the Corsairs!

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Ah an important loss! lol

Not really, but I was digging through my stash of models I've been gifted with over the years and found out I had two DKoK Commissars(one of them is the really nice event one rocking a helmet instead of a hat)...both with Laspistols.

Imagine my surprise when I was trying to find out if I could give them Laspistols.

If you mean this guy:



He's actually a Quartermaster, not a Commissar.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Ah an important loss! lol

Not really, but I was digging through my stash of models I've been gifted with over the years and found out I had two DKoK Commissars(one of them is the really nice event one rocking a helmet instead of a hat)...both with Laspistols.

Imagine my surprise when I was trying to find out if I could give them Laspistols.

If you mean this guy:



He's actually a Quartermaster, not a Commissar.

Can't be a very good quartermaster. He's all skin and bones.

Am I the only person who is thrilled that D-scythes roll their D3 per model now, instead of per unit?
Sure you are much less likely to get 15 hits, but this is a very good thing as it tones down their already great potential while simultaneously reducing the temptation to use a CP to influence the roll (this is good because we now have so many good stratagems, but still not a lot of CPs)

What I like most is that the chance of rolling only 1 hit per model is likewise reduced, giving a much more reliable unit without the need for extra CPs.

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 Galef wrote:
Am I the only person who is thrilled that D-scythes roll their D3 per model now, instead of per unit?
Sure you are much less likely to get 15 hits, but this is a very good thing as it tones down their already great potential while simultaneously reducing the temptation to use a CP to influence the roll (this is good because we now have so many good stratagems, but still not a lot of CPs)

What I like most is that the chance of rolling only 1 hit per model is likewise reduced, giving a much more reliable unit without the need for extra CPs.

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I agree. I hope they do they same thing to Orks with their Burnas (which had the exact same rule, but with MUCH worse weapons).

It leads to very swingy results, where one turn a unit will do 5 hits, and next turn 15. You can't rely on them.

Now, you can rely on doing an average 8/9 hits pretty much every turn. Some turns you'll be lucky, some you'll be unlucky, but it -should- end up being more reliable. For example, an "unlucky" roll might still include a couple of 2's among the 1's, giving you a 7 instead of a 5.

Does also mean you're unlikely to get 15's as often, obviously. but D-Scythes are probably overkill against a lot of units. I'd prefer a constant 7-13 hits, vs the occasional 5 leaving me vulnerable and the occasional 15 where 5 of the hits get wasted on dead models anyway.

 Galef wrote:
Am I the only person who is thrilled that D-scythes roll their D3 per model now, instead of per unit?
Sure you are much less likely to get 15 hits, but this is a very good thing as it tones down their already great potential while simultaneously reducing the temptation to use a CP to influence the roll (this is good because we now have so many good stratagems, but still not a lot of CPs)

What I like most is that the chance of rolling only 1 hit per model is likewise reduced, giving a much more reliable unit without the need for extra CPs.

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I completely agree. Wraithguard rolling once for the whole unit was something I didn't like from the beginning, even though it wasn't exactly a bad thing.

 DivineVisitor wrote:

Cataphract wrote:
Magnus got Bamboozled

I want my Magnus sized Avatar now!

Me too, though I do love my FW one.

The Runes of Battle rule is really nice. Each Eldar spell counts as 1 spell when selecting powers but counts as two different spells when casting them. So we could cast Quicken and Restrain in the same turn.

I don't want nor need a larger Avatar until his states properly reflect how powerful he should be. The statline definitely reflects the old, somewhat scant model --- which is fine. I don't see any point in having a Forgeworld sized Avatar with 8 wounds which succumbs to heavy bolter fire.

 Red_Five wrote:
The Runes of Battle rule is really nice. Each Eldar spell counts as 1 spell when selecting powers but counts as two different spells when casting them. So we could cast Quicken and Restrain in the same turn.

That was in the index, I'm glad they've kept it.

 Elbows wrote:
I don't want nor need a larger Avatar until his states properly reflect how powerful he should be. The statline definitely reflects the old, somewhat scant model --- which is fine. I don't see any point in having a Forgeworld sized Avatar with 8 wounds which succumbs to heavy bolter fire.

The Avatar is a Character, so he doesn't really have to worry about Heavy Bolters until his meatshields are chewed through. Given the Khaine Awakened rule, they are going to have to decimate the meatshields to a man (or close to it) to target the Avatar in the shooting phase.

 Imateria wrote:

 Red_Five wrote:
The Runes of Battle rule is really nice. Each Eldar spell counts as 1 spell when selecting powers but counts as two different spells when casting them. So we could cast Quicken and Restrain in the same turn.

That was in the index, I'm glad they've kept it.

Oh cool! I did not buy Xenos 1 as I did not think I would be playing Eldar for a long while... Then the codex started being revealed and I was hit with the Eldar bug

 General Kroll wrote:

 DivineVisitor wrote:

I want my Magnus sized Avatar now!

Me too, though I do love my FW one.

Out of interest, how do they compare? I’ve seen a video on YouTube comparing Magnus to the Wraithknight, but that was more about feet-to-wingtips. I mean, are they eye-to-eye like that picture? No one Tzeentchian in my group, so I can’t simply stand one next to the other...

Pilum wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:

 DivineVisitor wrote:

I want my Magnus sized Avatar now!

Me too, though I do love my FW one.

Out of interest, how do they compare? I’ve seen a video on YouTube comparing Magnus to the Wraithknight, but that was more about feet-to-wingtips. I mean, are they eye-to-eye like that picture? No one Tzeentchian in my group, so I can’t simply stand one next to the other...

Ooops, you wanted Magnus compared to the Forge World Avatar. My bad.

It’s a good job 40k doesnt test for steroids

nice paint job BTW!

I wish they'd have had the old infantry sized avatar for made to order.

I have the current resin one, and the plastic one from the fantasy altar, I need the infantry one and forgeworld ones to make a full set!

They don't even help my corsairs, but damn are they cool.

In the novelizations I've read, the Avatar is described as being twice the height of an Eldar, which is roughly what its current GW model is... I understand that the concept of its grandeur makes it seem like it would be huge, and see why anyone would want to represent it as such, but I fail to see how where it is now really wouldn't be a pretty decent representation of the actual scale fluffwise

Sperron wrote:
In the novelizations I've read, the Avatar is described as being twice the height of an Eldar, which is roughly what its current GW model is... I understand that the concept of its grandeur makes it seem like it would be huge, and see why anyone would want to represent it as such, but I fail to see how where it is now really wouldn't be a pretty decent representation of the actual scale fluffwise

The novelization was based in the GW model. If they made him twice his size now, in the future novels it will be a giant of lava.

Sperron wrote:
In the novelizations I've read, the Avatar is described as being twice the height of an Eldar, which is roughly what its current GW model is... I understand that the concept of its grandeur makes it seem like it would be huge, and see why anyone would want to represent it as such, but I fail to see how where it is now really wouldn't be a pretty decent representation of the actual scale fluffwise

GW have changed the sizes of a lot of things, and the fluff has followed suit.

The artwork also pretty consistently shows the Avatar as larger than the existing model, at least nowadays. And they've already made bigger Avatars at Forgeworld.

Warning - if you have preordered items including made to order, there is a warning stating the whole order may be delayed up to 30 days... calling tomorrow to verify but why preorder for release and then put it on hold for 30 days...

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Warning - if you have preordered items including made to order, there is a warning stating the whole order may be delayed up to 30 days... calling tomorrow to verify but why preorder for release and then put it on hold for 30 days...

Because the "Made to Order" stuff will take up to 30 days to do?

This happens every time there is a release with two different dates, and it's not strictly a GW thing. They send the fewest amount of packages possible and you get warned in advance to split the order into the "specials" and the "normals" to avoid things like you're talking about.

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Warning - if you have preordered items including made to order, there is a warning stating the whole order may be delayed up to 30 days... calling tomorrow to verify but why preorder for release and then put it on hold for 30 days...

Huh, I guess because they expect you to want the items all shipped in one single order, and the made-to-order items have a 30 day wait time on them. I'd expect them to ship the preorder items as soon as they're ready.


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 Kanluwen wrote:

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Warning - if you have preordered items including made to order, there is a warning stating the whole order may be delayed up to 30 days... calling tomorrow to verify but why preorder for release and then put it on hold for 30 days...

Because the "Made to Order" stuff will take up to 30 days to do?

This happens every time there is a release with two different dates, and it's not strictly a GW thing. They send the fewest amount of packages possible and you get warned in advance to split the order into the "specials" and the "normals" to avoid things like you're talking about.

When I made my order there was no such warning. These days, if there isn't a warning during checkout, then items are shipped as soon as ready.

Back in the 'old days' then sure, you'd expect to wait, but since amazon became a thing it's no longer the standard. A lot of companies either have a specific warning, or they give you the option to split delivery.

Might have to contact GW myself, as I only had one item mixed in with my made-to-order order, and it'd be annoying to have to wait a month for it.

Niiru wrote:

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Warning - if you have preordered items including made to order, there is a warning stating the whole order may be delayed up to 30 days... calling tomorrow to verify but why preorder for release and then put it on hold for 30 days...

Huh, I guess because they expect you to want the items all shipped in one single order, and the made-to-order items have a 30 day wait time on them. I'd expect them to ship the preorder items as soon as they're ready.


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 Kanluwen wrote:

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Warning - if you have preordered items including made to order, there is a warning stating the whole order may be delayed up to 30 days... calling tomorrow to verify but why preorder for release and then put it on hold for 30 days...

Because the "Made to Order" stuff will take up to 30 days to do?

This happens every time there is a release with two different dates, and it's not strictly a GW thing. They send the fewest amount of packages possible and you get warned in advance to split the order into the "specials" and the "normals" to avoid things like you're talking about.

When I made my order there was no such warning. These days, if there isn't a warning during checkout, then items are shipped as soon as ready.

Back in the 'old days' then sure, you'd expect to wait, but since amazon became a thing it's no longer the standard. A lot of companies either have a specific warning, or they give you the option to split delivery.

Might have to contact GW myself, as I only had one item mixed in with my made-to-order order, and it'd be annoying to have to wait a month for it.

As Kanluwen points the order should be delayed due the made to order models. My local Redshirt warned me about that and told me to make 2 separate orders in order to get my pre-order items this weekend, whitout the need to wait for the made to order ones.

Yeah I had a warning pop up when I ordered my Bonesinger saying that it might take up to 31 days I think which is fine as I am not ordering anything else with it.

I thought it was very clear and was the same with my Daemonettes.

I pre-ordered the Bonesinger and the Swooping Hawk Autarch. I don't play Eldar, but getting some of these really cool characters is worth it. I like both of their poses (Autarch looks a lot better than the plastic, IMO). Who knows, maybe I will start a small Eldar army eventually.

Years ago when I was collecting models just for aestetic I had the Banshee mask autarch and the jump pack autarch. They dissappeared (into the webway I assume).