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angel of death 007 wrote:
The only real downfall to the game is the release of all the gang war supplements. But it is game workshops model, they do it with codexs and everything else.

I wouldn't complain much about it if all the gang war books just added new stuff, expanding the game. Instead, large parts are fixing or reprinting earlier books. These pages should have been correct from the start or been fixed in free erratas/FAQs.


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 lord_blackfang wrote:

I posted a breakdown of GW2 when it came out, link below. GW3 was significantly better but IIRC reprinted all the weapons again. Haven't bought 4 yet.

They gonna have to reprint the weapons over again because there's always mistakes in them (like stub gun losing pistol trait in GW2). I'm guessing they're reprinting the skills in GW4 because they're getting fixed too. Or just as filler.

The skills are being reprinted in GW4 as a direct response to player feedback. They're in alphabetical order in GW1 because once a skill is on a model, the group it comes from is irrelevant, you just need to look up its name.

The list in GW4 is in order of category. Not hugely necessary, but it reduces some page-flipping when deciding which skills to add to a fighter.

It could be "filler", but IIRC the skill list would need to be … exactly 8 or 16 pages long, depending on the printing process, for that to be the case.

Ok, the skills are in alphabetical order in GW1 and GW2. At least there's some thought to reprinting it this time. Maybe they'll continue the tradition and reprint the skills in categorical order for GW5 then?

Core rulebook: outdated "dead" skills
GW1: skills, alphabetical order
GW2: skills, alphabetical order
GW4: skills, categorical order
GW5: skills, categorial order?

Even if the model already had skill it would still be easier to look it up by category. Especially when most house only focus on 1 or 2 category, maybe 3 if Leadership count.

Remember which skill belong to what category is simple. Remember which page and which section of said skill in the book to look at is not, you basicly had to scan through pages each time with alphabetical skill listing. That's annoying.

How so? Look at fighter card/ gang roster, read skill name. Look up skill name in list. As opposed to: look at fighter card for skill name. Look up list of skill categories to find which one the skill's in. Look up skill.

I've not had that issue at all. I use the roster, then make notes on a scratch paper. Easy peasy.

I can honestly say that the game just keeps getting better and better with each new release. Just need FW to start putting out the mercs, heavies, and pets - as I want everything to do with Necromunda. The psyker rules seem well-thought out, I love the fluffing out of Cawdor, the new weapons are brilliant (especially the bomb rats), and everything is just so bloody great. I hope we might get a glimpse of the Cawdor weapon set(s) at WarhammerFest Europe - and that it contains a number of rat accessories a la some of the art.

Having read about female Cawdor off-shoots, I wonder if they might serve as the even-more fanatical Redemptionists (inspired by Sisters of Silence, Sister of Battle, etc) - which would resolve the hood issues nicely. Even if we only get a one-off merc themed thusly, it would still be awesome.

Clockpunk wrote:
I can honestly say that the game just keeps getting better and better with each new release. Just need FW to start putting out the mercs, heavies, and pets - as I want everything to do with Necromunda. The psyker rules seem well-thought out, I love the fluffing out of Cawdor, the new weapons are brilliant (especially the bomb rats), and everything is just so bloody great. I hope we might get a glimpse of the Cawdor weapon set(s) at WarhammerFest Europe - and that it contains a number of rat accessories a la some of the art.

Having read about female Cawdor off-shoots, I wonder if they might serve as the even-more fanatical Redemptionists (inspired by Sisters of Silence, Sister of Battle, etc) - which would resolve the hood issues nicely. Even if we only get a one-off merc themed thusly, it would still be awesome.

These are some really great ideas, sign me on for some of those as well!

Well this is a fantastic combination of bits:



Tell me if the pic doesn't work.

Works like a charm <3

really great kitbash

I suspect the number of Cawdor kits sold for conversion fodder / kitbashing purposes will outnumber those used for actual Cawdor gangs by several orders of magnitude.

Liking those two conversions a lot.

Steve

 Duskweaver wrote:
I suspect the number of Cawdor kits sold for conversion fodder / kitbashing purposes will outnumber those used for actual Cawdor gangs by several orders of magnitude.

If GW don't include a datasheet for Frateris Militia in the eventual nuSisters codex and basically say "if you want to use this buy Cawdor", they'll be missing a trick.

Rule for GSC now free and updated. I notice some big change there.
https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Genesteal-Cult-Download.pdf

Chopstick wrote:
Rule for GSC now free and updated. I notice some big change there.
https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Genesteal-Cult-Download.pdf

True. There're almost no weapon and equipment restrictions anymore. Leader with mining laser, Neophytes with Heavy rock drill, Acolytes with Web gun... Even the Aberrants can now take all the close combat weapons (like a Shock whip).

Since they've been changed to use the new Wyrd rules, hopefully we'll see a similar update for Chaos cults too.

Happy days I can finally use that Magus mini as an Adept pity the Abominant didn’t make the new list.

Bear in mind that the Adept always has a third arm, unlike the Magus.

??? The Adept isn’t listed with a third arm as a later generation hybrid where as the Alpha is as an early generation

Sorry, I misread.

No worries I thought I had originally

Perusing the updated GSC pdf, I see this on page 4:

"A fighter may discard any Wargear carried when given new Wargear. Discarded Wargear is placed in the gang’s Stash"

This... is new, right? I mean, I seem to remember that other gangs' gangers can't discard wargear... Also, would this include weapons?

No, it's only Wargear - goggles, chem-synths, that sort of thing. IIRC that's also allowed in the standard game rules too, but I don't have them handy to check.

If you look at the Genestealer Cult Equipment list, you'll see that "Wargear" is one category of equipment, separate to Weapons. It includes Grenades, Armour, Personal Equipment and Exotic Beasts.

Ah, ok. I did a double take on that, given how they went out of their way to specifically prohibit weapon swaps on the core book.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we're still missing the Bolt Pistol and Web Pistol, two things on the GSC sprue.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but we're still missing the Bolt Pistol and Web Pistol, two things on the GSC sprue.

It is also interesting that they specifically mention the webpistol in the article.

It says web gun, which is the special weapon rather than the pistol.

Yes, I did think that as well but I went back and checked.

Love the new artwork of the milisaur and ripperjack.

Bolt pistols (and web pistols, I assume?) are in the Trading Post, so not completely prohibited.

The difference is that the Genestealer Cult Neophyte and Acolyte sprues aren't designed with Necromunda in mind, so perhaps it's not necessarily a given that every weapon on the sprue will be in the Genestealer Cult Equipment List.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Bolt pistols (and web pistols, I assume?) are in the Trading Post, so not completely prohibited.

The difference is that the Genestealer Cult Neophyte and Acolyte sprues aren't designed with Necromunda in mind, so perhaps it's not necessarily a given that every weapon on the sprue will be in the Genestealer Cult Equipment List.

The sprues were definitely designed with necromunda in mind. They just weren't designed with this particular edition of necromunda in mind.