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H.B.M.C. wrote: And they're still pricing flame weapons as if they were still producing cardboard ZM tiles.
Honestly...
[EDIT]: More revelations!
Spoiler:
Zone Mortalis Tip No5... The pipe fittings can be magnetised (6x2mm Magnets) at the correct height on walls and columns. B11 and B12 fit to columns and wall ends. Whilst C11 and C12 fit on Walls.
Zone Mortalis Tip No6... B13 has a hidden use. By cutting down a pipe to 3 sections wide and adding B13 to either end along with the wall pipe fittings, makes it the correct length to join across two wall sections.
Cutting down plasma conduits is tedious. I suggest literally oiling your blade before doing it.
Has anyone figured out how many pillars, short walls, and long wall sections you can build from one NUU box? I keep seeing pics of the sprues in a pile (so I can't count each type) and assembled boxes on a board, so some stuff is obscured.
They're from Owen Patten's twitter. He's the guy who designed these kits, and is doing a series of tips and tricks much like Ray Dranfield did for all his terrain.
6x2mm magnets, according to the designer’s Twitter... it’s right there above the spoilered images.
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Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
Da Butcha wrote: Has anyone figured out how many pillars, short walls, and long wall sections you can build from one NUU box? I keep seeing pics of the sprues in a pile (so I can't count each type) and assembled boxes on a board, so some stuff is obscured.
12 pillars, 8 short walls, 2 long walls, 2 big doors 2 small doors. 2 sets of stairs, 2 elevators (or one double tall one), 2 of the 3 panel column caps, 4 single tile column caps with 6 panels to add to them (I have 2 L shaped ones and 2 with a panel on one side)
Da Butcha wrote: Has anyone figured out how many pillars, short walls, and long wall sections you can build from one Necromunda: Dark Uprising box? I keep seeing pics of the sprues in a pile (so I can't count each type) and assembled boxes on a board, so some stuff is obscured.
12 pillars, 8 short walls, 2 long walls, 2 big doors 2 small doors. 2 sets of stairs, 2 elevators (or one double tall one), 2 of the 3 panel column caps, 4 single tile column caps with 6 panels to add to them (I have 2 L shaped ones and 2 with a panel on one side)
Thanks! That's useful to know. For someone who wants to recreate any of the card ZM tile layouts on the new plastic ZM tiles, you'd need two sets of floor tiles (although no ZM scenario uses more than 7, I think). However, you would need 24 short walls, 12 long walls, and 24 pillars.
Spoiler:
Coincidentally exactly how many you get in the GameMat.eu resin set, which works with the old card tiles
You would have to buy 4 sets of Dark Uprising (which would get you a TON of extra pillars), and you could use the 8 extra short walls to make up for the 4 long walls that you would be missing. Of course, you would get tons of doors, stairs, elevators, and column caps as well--and, of course, tons of models, rules, templates, etc. Maybe the terrain boxes will be priced so that you don't feel like you are getting hosed for not buying multiple starters.
You would have to buy 4 sets of Dark Uprising (which would get you a TON of extra pillars), and you could use the 8 extra short walls to make up for the 4 long walls that you would be missing. Of course, you would get tons of doors, stairs, elevators, and column caps as well--and, of course, tons of models, rules, templates, etc. Maybe the terrain boxes will be priced so that you don't feel like you are getting hosed for not buying multiple starters.
The instructions are split into Zone Mortalis Walls and Columns and Zone Mortalis Stairs and Platforms. My theory is that there will be a large corridor box, with 1 door sprue, 2 sprues of long wall, 2 sprues of short walls and 3-4 column sprues for say $100-$125 and then a small platform box with 2 stair sprues and 2 platform sprues for $50-$60
Apparently there is a hired gun in the book of ruin that may or may not be a blood angels space marine. Really hope they make a miniature for this guy. They did a better job with the concept than I would have thought.
H.B.M.C. wrote: And someone on Facebook has confirmed that the ZM floor tiles are slightly thinner than the Sector Mechanicus walkways, by like a mm or two.
This is, of course, quite devastating.
I'm not sure why.
Were you planning on using floor tiles as second levels? Because the ZM floor tiles have a hollow underbelly with irregularly shaped reinforcement for strength, so they wouldn't be a good candidate for that anyway. They wouldn't mesh consistently, and you can't easily cut them up, as the pattern is irregular. If you were planning on that, I guess it's no more devastating to find that out either.
Or were you going to use Sector Mechanicus walkways for floor tiles, in which case, tell me where you are getting all those spare walkways, man!
H.B.M.C. wrote: And someone on Facebook has confirmed that the ZM floor tiles are slightly thinner than the Sector Mechanicus walkways, by like a mm or two.
That would actually be worse as then it'd be far too thick.
The thing about the Sector Mechanicus stuff is that it's engineered to be very precise. Change one element of height and it tends to throw things out of alignment quite badly. This is why the Plasma Regulators are such annoying pieces (however gorgeous they are - yes, I own 10). They're not the same height as regular Sector Mechanicus pieces (5") nor are they half-height like many of the accessory pieces (2.5"). Frustrating things.
These new floors are a few mm off, which really isn't the complete end of the world, but two of them together would be very thick. But as Da Butcha says, they don't sound suitable given the underside hollow.
The struggle to get proper platforms in large numbers continues.
Da Butcha wrote: Were you planning on using floor tiles as second levels?
Precisely that. I thought they'd make for a good alternative to an upper level to save myself from having to use my precious straight and square walkways. Apparently not.
Da Butcha wrote: Or were you going to use Sector Mechanicus walkways for floor tiles, in which case, tell me where you are getting all those spare walkways, man!
Oh I wish I had a big(ger) supply. They're worth their weight in gold to me.
Breotan wrote: Why would you use a knife to do this? A saw is much better tool for this type of work.
Don't own a saw. And I need one so rarely that owning one isn't worth the money.
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Zed wrote: *All statements reflect my opinion at this moment. if some sort of pretty new model gets released (or if I change my mind at random) I reserve the right to jump on any bandwagon at will.
Thargrim wrote: Apparently there is a hired gun in the book of ruin that may or may not be a blood angels space marine. Really hope they make a miniature for this guy. They did a better job with the concept than I would have thought.
Necromunda: The Book of Ruin wrote:VANDOTH THE FALLEN
Vandoth is a figure of legend on Necromunda and stories are told of his deeds from the sky- hives of the Stormlands to the toxic shores of the Great Scavvie Sea. A giant of a man bound in layers of crimson muscle, Vandoth can crush a man’s skull with one hand and turn aside blades with his hardened skin. Most disturbing of all though are the tales of Vandoth’s unquenchable thirst for blood. It is said that hidden behind his mask are long canine fangs, and after he kills, the gigantic warrior stoops over his prey to drain them dry. Outlaws sometimes pay for Vandoth’s aid with the promise of coin, weapons or glory, though the giant mostly does as he pleases, aiding others when his interests align with theirs. There are conflicting accounts as to where Vandoth comes from and who (or even what) he is. Some insist the massive warrior was once a Goliath, somehow corrupted in the vat with tainted blood. Others believe Vandoth was once one of Lord Helmawr’s personal guards, until he was genetically altered into a vampiric beast for the ruler of Necromunda’s amusement. Then there are the stories that the massive fighter is a thing of Chaos, though the savagery Vandoth shows to those corrupted by the Dark Gods would seem to discount this. All that is known for sure is Vandoth has wandered Necromunda for centuries at least, his face hidden behind a mask and an ancient oversized boltgun at his side.
Yeah, he's an interesting character. The fact that he's been there for centuries makes me wonder how long he's actually been there. Stranded for thousands of years on Necromunda?
sounds like an astartes imo.
Giant. Boltgun oversized (without armor on marines do look like thier BG is versized).
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
Shadox wrote: Imho the implications point pretty strongly towards a Blood Angel.
Or, well, Fallen. Probably leaves enough room for both interpretations.
It has fangs.
It drinks blood.
Oh and has armour sculpted to look like muscle.
Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis
Has anyone seen pictures of the old cardboard tiles with the new Zone Mortalis Walls an Collumns ontop? How well if at all do they fit the "black Wallspaces" printed on those cardboard tiles? I'll only be getting my 3 boxes thursday and am really anxious to know :-D Why? Because I split all my cardboard tiles in Half (plane-wise), so that I have not one tile each with front and backside printed on, but two seperate tiles with printed surface which I then proceeded to glue onto gameboards, got 2x 2x3foot and 1x 6x4foot like that... Would be really swell if I could plop the new walls ontop of that without too much of a hassle
edit: gak, it's about 18.8 floortiles for 3' width, so about 1.9" per floortile, but the new plastik floorplates have 2" floortiles and the plastik walls can collums are designed for those.... but maybe it just barely fits :-D hopefully
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I don't want to be human! I want to see gamma rays! I want to hear X-rays! And I want to - I want to smell dark matter! Do you see the absurdity of what I am? I can't even express these things properly because I have to conceptualize complex ideas in this stupid limiting spoken language! But I know I want to reach out with something other than these prehensile paws! And feel the wind of a supernova flowing over me! And I can know much more! I can experience so much more. But I'm trapped in this absurd body!
I don't know how feasible this is, but I think the old tiles were literally just scaled down by some small percentage. If you could scan them in and print them out at the 1'x1', it might work.
Also, it's worth pointing out that you can probably use the columns without the walls, and maybe use some foamboard for walls. It really depends on how much effort you want to go to.
But yeah, they aren't really the same size and you'll be better off just gluing the poster that comes in Dark Uprising to a board and using that instead.
U box? I keep seeing pics of the sprues in a pile (so I can't count each type) and assembled boxes on a board, so some stuff is obscured.
