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Should have made a friction fit elevator floor to fit in Sector Mechanicus stairs also. Guess they didn't think hard enough back then (also not specifically designed for Necromunda).

Many interesting and beautiful things can be done with these terrain pieces. For anyone who have played Minecraft, I think we get the idea.

While the photos illustrate a well of possibilities, I doubt you can do much with just a single box of Dark Uprising. Gonna need multiple boxes of terrain to do stuff like that?

All very neat ideas. I'm sure copies will pop up on Thingiverse in due time. Until then I can print some half-height Sector Mechanicus pillars and cisterns and get much the same results.

Baxx wrote:
While the photos illustrate a well of possibilities, I doubt you can do much with just a single box of Dark Uprising. Gonna need multiple boxes of terrain to do stuff like that?

According to a user on Reddit, this is one box worth of terrain (and he still hadn't done the barricades):

Seeing displays like that makes me really consider picking up a box, especially if that is truly only one box. I haven't looked in the rulebook from the set, and my concern would be whether all the missions in that rulebook can be played on a 2x2. If they can I will likely pull the trigger and pick up the set.

Yeah, if that's one box, and with Black Friday around the corner with local store discounts and credit on top of that... it's getting awfully tempting.

Here's my Necromunda terrain built and set up on a 2x2 realm of battle tile. I haven't yet built the walkways, stairs, or pipes, so all you see here are the columns, walls, and the standard necromunda barricades/objective markers.

I already have a bunch of the munitorum crates terrain, so that plus this will create really good verticality and lots of hiding spots for big games, even up to 3x3 I imagine!

 Sabotage! wrote:
Seeing displays like that makes me really consider picking up a box, especially if that is truly only one box. I haven't looked in the rulebook from the set, and my concern would be whether all the missions in that rulebook can be played on a 2x2. If they can I will likely pull the trigger and pick up the set.

No no no, this isn't killteam. Pretty much no scenarios can be played on 2x2. And even if they can, it's going to be a small game. This has never been an optimal size for Necromunda. Ideally, you'll want to play 4x4, 4x3, 3x3 or at minimum 2x3. Maybe there are 1 or 2 scenarios that specifically mentions it can be played on 2x2, but most should be played on larger battlefields, or even specifically states larger sizes.

Baxx wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:
Seeing displays like that makes me really consider picking up a box, especially if that is truly only one box. I haven't looked in the rulebook from the set, and my concern would be whether all the missions in that rulebook can be played on a 2x2. If they can I will likely pull the trigger and pick up the set.

No no no, this isn't killteam. Pretty much no scenarios can be played on 2x2. And even if they can, it's going to be a small game. This has never been an optimal size for Necromunda. Ideally, you'll want to play 4x4, 4x3, 3x3 or at minimum 2x3. Maybe there are 1 or 2 scenarios that specifically mentions it can be played on 2x2, but most should be played on larger battlefields, or even specifically states larger sizes.

I kind of figured as much, though since I haven't seen the scenarios in the Dark Uprising starter rulebook I didn't know. I know a lot of the Zone Mortalis scenarios from the normal rulebook are played with between 4-6 tiles (which is roughly 2x2 to 2x3), but I'm not certain with the new scenarios. If you can't play the rulebook scenarios with the terrain in the box, I'd rather skip it and just pick up much cheaper walls for my ZM tiles.

 Sqorgar wrote:

Baxx wrote:
While the photos illustrate a well of possibilities, I doubt you can do much with just a single box of Dark Uprising. Gonna need multiple boxes of terrain to do stuff like that?

According to a user on Reddit, this is one box worth of terrain (and he still hadn't done the barricades):

Spoiler:

Looks like a great Killteam Killzone. Use the Truehawk environment and tactics from Rogue Trader and you can fight a good boarding action. The Sector Mechanicus and Sector Munitorium stuff looks like it will really flesh it out as engineering sections and cargo bays.

I want the terrain, but I only want to get the box if I can unload the rest of the Necromunda stuff.

 Sabotage! wrote:

Baxx wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:
Seeing displays like that makes me really consider picking up a box, especially if that is truly only one box. I haven't looked in the rulebook from the set, and my concern would be whether all the missions in that rulebook can be played on a 2x2. If they can I will likely pull the trigger and pick up the set.

No no no, this isn't killteam. Pretty much no scenarios can be played on 2x2. And even if they can, it's going to be a small game. This has never been an optimal size for Necromunda. Ideally, you'll want to play 4x4, 4x3, 3x3 or at minimum 2x3. Maybe there are 1 or 2 scenarios that specifically mentions it can be played on 2x2, but most should be played on larger battlefields, or even specifically states larger sizes.

I kind of figured as much, though since I haven't seen the scenarios in the Dark Uprising starter rulebook I didn't know. I know a lot of the Zone Mortalis scenarios from the normal rulebook are played with between 4-6 tiles (which is roughly 2x2 to 2x3), but I'm not certain with the new scenarios. If you can't play the rulebook scenarios with the terrain in the box, I'd rather skip it and just pick up much cheaper walls for my ZM tiles.

The Dark Uprising book makes no reference that I can see to a maximum or minimum size of a Zone Mortalis board for the missions. It says 'each player places a 12" terrain square' with varying requirements, but no minimum or maximum number. Sector Mechanicus does have a recommended size at 4'x4'.

This is probably because with zone mortalis and doors, the fighting can afford to be more claustrophobic, whereas in Sector Mechanicus, you can have more open spaces and more sparse cover.

drbored wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:

Baxx wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:
Seeing displays like that makes me really consider picking up a box, especially if that is truly only one box. I haven't looked in the rulebook from the set, and my concern would be whether all the missions in that rulebook can be played on a 2x2. If they can I will likely pull the trigger and pick up the set.

No no no, this isn't killteam. Pretty much no scenarios can be played on 2x2. And even if they can, it's going to be a small game. This has never been an optimal size for Necromunda. Ideally, you'll want to play 4x4, 4x3, 3x3 or at minimum 2x3. Maybe there are 1 or 2 scenarios that specifically mentions it can be played on 2x2, but most should be played on larger battlefields, or even specifically states larger sizes.

I kind of figured as much, though since I haven't seen the scenarios in the Dark Uprising starter rulebook I didn't know. I know a lot of the Zone Mortalis scenarios from the normal rulebook are played with between 4-6 tiles (which is roughly 2x2 to 2x3), but I'm not certain with the new scenarios. If you can't play the rulebook scenarios with the terrain in the box, I'd rather skip it and just pick up much cheaper walls for my ZM tiles.

The Dark Uprising book makes no reference that I can see to a maximum or minimum size of a Zone Mortalis board for the missions. It says 'each player places a 12" terrain square' with varying requirements, but no minimum or maximum number. Sector Mechanicus does have a recommended size at 4'x4'.

This is probably because with zone mortalis and doors, the fighting can afford to be more claustrophobic, whereas in Sector Mechanicus, you can have more open spaces and more sparse cover.

That's good to know. To be honest I have played quite a few ZM games with 4 or 5 tiles, and they still felt like fun, engaging games. The claustrophobic setting does really prevent gangs from going whole hog and blasting everyone apart right away. I'll see what kind of deals I can wrangle up.

witchdoctor wrote:

 Sqorgar wrote:

Baxx wrote:
While the photos illustrate a well of possibilities, I doubt you can do much with just a single box of Dark Uprising. Gonna need multiple boxes of terrain to do stuff like that?

According to a user on Reddit, this is one box worth of terrain (and he still hadn't done the barricades):

Spoiler:

Looks like a great Killteam Killzone. Use the Truehawk environment and tactics from Rogue Trader and you can fight a good boarding action. The Sector Mechanicus and Sector Munitorium stuff looks like it will really flesh it out as engineering sections and cargo bays.

I want the terrain, but I only want to get the box if I can unload the rest of the Necromunda stuff.

This is what I picked up Dark Uprising for... a new, multi-level Killzone. I already unloaded the gangs locally and hope to let go of the rulebook, dice, cards & stuff too (which might leave me paying just USD $85-95 for all the terrain).

It'll be good when the zone mortalis terrain is sold separately. Will probably be a while, but when it is it'll be easier to get a hold of just the terrain you want to expand into whatever size game you want.

Supposedly, January/February.

Maybe we'll get another leak of ship dates.

My copy came in today and I've managed to get two columns and a long wall put together. I thought the magnet slots were for connecting the walls to the columns, but the walls don't have slots on the edges (except for one or two) - so I guess the magnets are more for attaching the accessories (computer terminals, pipes, etc)?

I'm also a little disappointed that you get 6 sprues of columns (12 columns total), but only 2 sprues of everything else (except doors, which you only get one of). I guess you need more columns, since they are kind of the linchpin the whole set is built around, but I feel like doubling up on Dark Uprising boxes will give you way too many columns for the amount of walls you'll end up with. I guess we'll see what it's like once everything is put together...

My other disappointment, and I'm probably the only person who wanted this, but I wish it had pre-made cards for the various fighters like Underhive did. I know people were disappointed with the loadouts of the Underhive gangs, but I think it helps for a starter box to have a little handholding through the choice-paralysis inducing character creation phase. But at $290, this isn't a starter box for people who don't want to have to work for it.

Worth mentioning, IMO, that while it doesn't have 'premade cards'--the actual instructions for building the guys seemed to handle that side of things.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Worth mentioning, IMO, that while it doesn't have 'premade cards'--the actual instructions for building the guys seemed to handle that side of things.

Sort of. Because of the odd sprue count, it doesn't work out perfectly for Dark Uprising (Enforcers have 10 examples for 5 guys and CGC has 10 examples for 15 guys). It's better than nothing.

Also, I wish they'd label what the guns are. I have not managed to memorize the appearance of every single weapon in 40k, so trying to tell a lasgun from a lascarbine on a model is not easy, even when they do give you picture references in books (which is not always). Trying to reverse engineer what each model is equipping (not to mention guessing the wargear) is possible, but not trivial. Would it kill them to write in the instructions, "Rivet Gun", "Lascarbine", or "Stabby Stabby Pointy Murder Stick"?

 Sqorgar wrote:

My other disappointment, and I'm probably the only person who wanted this, but I wish it had pre-made cards for the various fighters like Underhive did. I know people were disappointed with the loadouts of the Underhive gangs, but I think it helps for a starter box to have a little handholding through the choice-paralysis inducing character creation phase. But at $290, this isn't a starter box for people who don't want to have to work for it.

Oh no, please no pre-made cards! I get that they're useful for quick games, but the execution is always a disaster. Pre-made cards from GW tends to have incorrect fighter stats, weapon profiles, skills and costs. Every book that has fighter cards for hired guns are incorrect. Book of Perils, Book of Judgement, Book of Ruin... Even the deck sold separately with some of the hired guns was incorrect, making the deck either useless or a lot of work to correct all the mistakes.


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 Sqorgar wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Worth mentioning, IMO, that while it doesn't have 'premade cards'--the actual instructions for building the guys seemed to handle that side of things.

Sort of. Because of
Also, I wish they'd label what the guns are. I have not managed to memorize the appearance of every single weapon in 40k, so trying to tell a lasgun from a lascarbine on a model is not easy, even when they do give you picture references in books (which is not always). Trying to reverse engineer what each model is equipping (not to mention guessing the wargear) is possible, but not trivial. Would it kill them to write in the instructions, "Rivet Gun", "Lascarbine", or "Stabby Stabby Pointy Murder Stick"?

I know most of the standard weapons by heart, like auto/las/bolt pistol/gun/cannon. But all these new variants are confusing. Good thing about that is, if nobody knows exactly the difference between a suppression laser and a las carbine or butcher-heavy-this with chain-heavy-that you can use both for anything without proxying or worrying about WYSIWYG.

Even more revelations (wait 'til you see the last one!).



Enjoy!

Yes, that last one is a thing of beauty!

For those on a budget, TT Combat was really fast to copy the contents of that box and sell the MDF version for dirt cheap:

https://ttcombat.com/collections/industrial-hive/products/iron-labyrinth-death-quadrant-complex?fbclid=IwAR1aE_J0mHIVafU8Bs8uItn96QKkXxHS2Us74VzdQCf3IVoYP4nmv_rYo0s

I know a lot of people in here boo and hiss at MDF, but if you like the idea, but don't mind the lesser detail, you can build a similar table for cheap.

I'd also recommend Death Ray Design's zone mortalis copy. It's more expensive than TT Combat's but I think it looks much more detailed and has a wide range of pieces to vary up your battlefield.

http://deathraydesigns.com/product-category/terrain/scifi/warp-strider/

 Elbows wrote:
For those on a budget, TT Combat was really fast to copy the contents of that box and sell the MDF version for dirt cheap:

https://ttcombat.com/collections/industrial-hive/products/iron-labyrinth-death-quadrant-complex?fbclid=IwAR1aE_J0mHIVafU8Bs8uItn96QKkXxHS2Us74VzdQCf3IVoYP4nmv_rYo0s

I know a lot of people in here boo and hiss at MDF, but if you like the idea, but don't mind the lesser detail, you can build a similar table for cheap.

I was just looking at this and I think It's going to be perfect for me. I just picked up a DU set since I found one at a price I was happy to pay, but I had already preordered the gangs and rulebook (which will probably all hit up Ebay), and the rulebook included a game mat with it. I figure with the terrain in the set and one set of this kit I should have enough terrain for 5-7 tiles after I cut up my second mat into four tiles. The price is really reasonable and It looks like it will match in really well with the GW stuff.

 Elbows wrote:
For those on a budget, TT Combat was really fast to copy the contents of that box and sell the MDF version for dirt cheap:

https://ttcombat.com/collections/industrial-hive/products/iron-labyrinth-death-quadrant-complex?fbclid=IwAR1aE_J0mHIVafU8Bs8uItn96QKkXxHS2Us74VzdQCf3IVoYP4nmv_rYo0s

I know a lot of people in here boo and hiss at MDF, but if you like the idea, but don't mind the lesser detail, you can build a similar table for cheap.

25 pounds? Holy jeeegiz.. !

Is that a holy

That’s a great deal

OR

That’s too expensive?

That's the allure of MDF terrain. It gets you a lot of terrain very cheaply that can be built very quickly and has... a *decent* amount of detail.

Is it as sharp as plastic? No, it doesn't have that kind of detail. But hey, let's be honest, you just saved 120 pounds by going with MDF instead.

and you can jaz them up a bit with something like the Maelstroms Edge terrain upgrade sprues



https://www.maelstromsedge.com/medge/store.jsp?p=8#1


https://www.maelstromsedge.com/medge/store.jsp?p=52#2

Yeah, but whether that's actually a good deal or not depends on how important you consider terrain to a great game experience.

For me, it's vital, and MDF just can't compare.

Troof. That plastic is lovely plastic. 160euros shipped hs me on the fence...