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Awesome ... first mini for some months to really grab my interest

 cuda1179 wrote:

He's got to have almost RG level stats. Not quite, but almost. Having two of those guys as HQ's (not Lords of War) might be interesting.

You cannot have 2 because a) he is a named character and b) there is only 1 Captain-General of the Custodes. You could have 2 Tribunes (and other high ranking ones) if they introduce other options ffrom fluff/FW.

 cuda1179 wrote:

 Anpu-adom wrote:
I don't know why, but I have a feeling that this guy will come in a Triumvirate box of some kind. Maybe the Lion, Mepheston, and this guy (would fit with the other pattern of a Primarch/MC, a redone character we know, and a new character.)

Huh, you have a point here. Mephiston is a pretty dated figure in need of a refresh.


On another note, do Custodes even need a "real" codex? What if they give us something similar to the pamphlet thing with got in 7th? Couple strategems, Special Character, generic HQ, Dreadnought elite, one troop, Land Raider for Heavy Support. Just throw it out in addition to another release.

If they actually allowed people to use non Marine 30k models there would be plenty for a full codex.

The model looks good - hoping for a Sisters of Silence character now

So how would you field him?
He does not fit in LR with a full 5-man squad. Footslogging with squad or two?

Carlovonsexron wrote:
I think the main reason GW made the Custodes in plastic at all was to roll them out as a full faction. And to that end I see the primaris grav tanks as being both a bridge to keep the shock of custodes grav tanks minimal, but also pre empt all the eye rolling that would come from people looking at Custodes grav vehicles and question why the rest of the imperium doesn't get any of that that sweet sweet Terran old tech.

I think it made FW's life easier. Same for the HH Marines/Terminators.

If the core was plastic, then they only need to make the accessories and not waste time making moulds (or remaking them) for basic weaponless units (especially the Mk.III and Mk.IV Marines).

jsmok wrote:
So how would you field him?
He does not fit in LR with a full 5-man squad. Footslogging with squad or two?

Until we get rules for the Coronus anyway, which fits 6 Custodes.

Well, you could just take one understrength unit of 4 custodes, then cram him in with them.

 cuda1179 wrote:
Well, you could just take one understrength unit of 4 custodes, then cram him in with them.

I think most tournaments say you can only take understrength in Auxiliary Support Detachments so you're also out a CP AND that unit no longer counts towards a battalion. So it would hurt there.

The shield and feathers look very awkward.

Custodes have limited arm movement as it is without restricting them further.

Without the shield, with a helmeted head, and with the axe replaced with a guardian spear, he'd be pretty cool.



Also, only the second ever model of one of the Lords Solar.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
The shield and feathers look very awkward.

Custodes have limited arm movement as it is without restricting them further.

Without the shield, with a helmeted head, and with the axe replaced with a guardian spear, he'd be pretty cool.



Also, only the second ever model of one of the Lords Solar.

He's not a Lord Solar, he's a member of the High Lords of Terra. Still a second ever I think as the only other one (from GW) is Guilliman as the Lord Commander of the Imperium and head of the HLoT. Marcharius wasn't on the HLoT.

Looks great

 Lord Damocles wrote:
The shield and feathers look very awkward.

Custodes have limited arm movement as it is without restricting them further.

Without the shield, with a helmeted head, and with the axe replaced with a guardian spear, he'd be pretty cool.



Also, only the second ever model of one of the Lords Solar.

I dunno, do you really want another Guardian Spear? And you can easily cut off the head and replace it.

I don't like bling though so I agree with everything else.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
The shield and feathers look very awkward.

Custodes have limited arm movement as it is without restricting them further.

Without the shield, with a helmeted head, and with the axe replaced with a guardian spear, he'd be pretty cool.



Also, only the second ever model of one of the Lords Solar.

He's not a Lord Solar, he's a member of the High Lords of Terra. Still a second ever I think as the only other one (from GW) is Guilliman as the Lord Commander of the Imperium and head of the HLoT. Marcharius wasn't on the HLoT.

The Inquisitorial delegate is a revolving post; I suppose any Inquisitor model could potentially represent a holder of that position.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
The shield and feathers look very awkward.

Custodes have limited arm movement as it is without restricting them further.

Without the shield, with a helmeted head, and with the axe replaced with a guardian spear, he'd be pretty cool.



Also, only the second ever model of one of the Lords Solar.

He's not a Lord Solar, he's a member of the High Lords of Terra. Still a second ever I think as the only other one (from GW) is Guilliman as the Lord Commander of the Imperium and head of the HLoT. Marcharius wasn't on the HLoT.

The Inquisitorial delegate is a revolving post; I suppose any Inquisitor model could potentially represent a holder of that position.

That is a fair point.

Really great model, like others have said the face has loads of character.
It also struck me, that the model would look really cool painted as a black dude.

 Kapitan Montag wrote:
Really great model, like others have said the face has loads of character.
It also struck me, that the model would look really cool painted as a black dude.

That is definitely an excellent idea! If he does not come with a helmet, I think I will definitely be painting him with dark skin.

Is there a word on how this will be sold?

In-store exclusive? Limited Edition mini from website? Normal miniature available all the time?

No word on it yet Kronk.

K.

*stretches arms and shoulders in case I need to push small kids out of the way if it is an Limited Edition at GW store release*

If this isn't at least a general release with rules in the box or free download I will be perturbed.

Unlikely, but I'm hoping Custodes is a surprise "extra" release with something else. Even if all we get is this Character and a generic HQ.

Captain-General Trajann Valoris is master of the ten-thousand strong forces of the Adeptus Custodes. We think he’ll make a great leader for any Imperium army, whether you’re looking to field a force purely made up of the Emperor’s personal guard or a mixed collection of agents, assassins and more besides.

Given the background events in "The Emperor's Legion" book, he now commands eight-thousand strong forces of the Adeptus Custodes.

And his depiction in background clearly states his face is severely scarred.

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I'm beginning to wonder if this Custodes HQ will be a part of the GW advent calendar. It would be a bit anti climactic, but oh well.

Fan67 wrote:

Captain-General Trajann Valoris is master of the ten-thousand strong forces of the Adeptus Custodes. We think he’ll make a great leader for any Imperium army, whether you’re looking to field a force purely made up of the Emperor’s personal guard or a mixed collection of agents, assassins and more besides.

Given the background events in "The Emperor's Legion" book, he now commands eight-thousand strong forces of the Adeptus Custodes.

And his depiction in background clearly states his face is severely scarred.

The two centuries or so since that even are probably enough for the guardians of the emperor himself to find the finest recruits humanity hasto offer to replenish thier losses.

And enough time for the captain general to decide he wants a face lift.

Carlovonsexron wrote:

The two centuries or so since that even are probably enough for the guardians of the emperor himself to find the finest recruits humanity hasto offer to replenish thier losses.

And enough time for the captain general to decide he wants a face lift.

I thought the cannon was the only Custodes were the ones the Emperor made back in the day. They are older than gak and can't be replaced.

Or am I wrong or was that changed?

They can replace them, it's just more expensive and time consuming than marines.

I think it mentions that most of the Custodes never had seen a primarch before during GS3, or something similar.

I'm relatively sure it was never actual canon they couldn't be replaced, only assumed because the Emperor wasnt around to make them himself. But thankfully someone incharge realized that “The Ten Thousand”, aside from being a wonderful Xenophon reference sounds awesome, so they were confirmed to be able to raise new aspirants.

 kronk wrote:
K.

*stretches arms and shoulders in case I need to push small kids out of the way if it is an Limited Edition at GW store release*

Just bring a handful of extra parts and coin change with you and throw them in the corner while shouting "Free money and conversion bits!". That should get most snotlings to disperse.

Am I the only one that doesnt want a Custodes army in 40k? they are insanely broken in HH and I dont want anything like that in 40k... can we please have Sisters though :/

Yes. Yes you are.

It's Custodes artwork that got me into 40k at all. Ive been wishing to get them ad a army for at least a decade and now... So deliciously close!

(though really I'm happy enough with the present infantry kits. Id really like some jetbikes in plastic, but could life without the other stuff I guess. But then Im mostly a modler and painter, and not a player...

He actually isn't, not even slightly. Custodes are one of those things that *sounds* really cool, and looks *extremely* cool, right up to the point you realise everyone else thinks so as well and now you're going to spend a significant amount of matches playing against what are supposed to be an incredibly rare faction with an incredibly specific purpose but who now apparently will be wiping out the PDF on Planet Bowlingball every other saturday afternoon.

Look at Marines - people's reaction to the super-duper-mega-ultra-elite genetically engineered supersoldier special forces guys became so blase that they had to introduce new, even more specialer even more superer Big Marines.

Custodes are like Titans - they look amazing in the art, and maybe seeing *one* special Forgeworld model show up on the table now and again would be awesome, but they shouldn't be standard fare.