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Before long there won’t be much of anything left that’s not Space Marine related.

 
   
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 General Kroll wrote:
Before long there won’t be much of anything left that’s not Space Marine related.


Certainly looking that way. Not entirely sure what is going on inside GW/FW atm. We just lost all of the metal guard regiments, now this. I use those chaos renegades in my army as ganger conscripts (the ones without chaos insignia). Shame to see them go.
   
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Pretty crap move from FW/GW indeed.
I love and actually own a lot of these kits.
Chaos lost one of its most interesting range in my opinion.

What's next? Their DKoK opponent?

   
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Powerful Ushbati





United States

 Commissar Benny wrote:
 General Kroll wrote:
Before long there won’t be much of anything left that’s not Space Marine related.


Certainly looking that way. Not entirely sure what is going on inside GW/FW atm. We just lost all of the metal guard regiments, now this. I use those chaos renegades in my army as ganger conscripts (the ones without chaos insignia). Shame to see them go.


Just a stab in the dark, but I wouldn't be at all surprised is plastic versions of all this stuff is coming in the future. IF I was a betting man, I'd say that the New Rouge Trader "Guardsmen" are going to update the loyalist range, and their LaTD models will be the new renegades, all ported directly into current 40K lore with plastic ranges.
   
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Legendary Dogfighter




england

R.I.P Renegades.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut






UK

ValentineGames wrote:
R.I.P Renegades.




Very tempted to get some, but winning the willpower battle thus far.

   
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard



UK

You think recasters send them thank you cards when they do this?
   
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RogueSangre



West Sussex, UK

Was planning on making a Renegades Killteam once the game was published at the end of the month (probably using the Astra Militarum rules but was waiting for the actual book to decide). This LCTB has really put a brief end to that plan.
   
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Battlefield Professional




Nottingham, England

hobojebus wrote:
You think recasters send them thank you cards when they do this?


Doubt it it's nearly all low sales volume items.
   
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine





United Kingdom

Oh look, another range that was basically unsupported bar occasional edition updates after the initial IA campaign book debut is being scrapped as it doesn't sell. It's almost as though if you ignore something peoples' interest in the product or awareness that it exists wanes.

3rd parties like Anvil (who have some traitor and heretics stuff in the worls for their Regiments line) Puppets War and Mad Robot would be fairly pleased with this development I'd have thought.

   
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General




We'll find out soon enough eh.

 TwilightSparkles wrote:
hobojebus wrote:
You think recasters send them thank you cards when they do this?


Doubt it it's nearly all low sales volume items.


Which are supposed to be the whole point of Forgeworld as a company.


I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
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hobojebus wrote:
You think recasters send them thank you cards when they do this?


No but they do send emails saying not to worry we got you covered to customer's.

In fact I believe that there is definitely now at least one recasters who stocks more FW product than FW themselves which is pretty funny.

Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis 
   
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United States

SeanDrake wrote:
hobojebus wrote:
You think recasters send them thank you cards when they do this?


No but they do send emails saying not to worry we got you covered to customer's.

In fact I believe that there is definitely now at least one recasters who stocks more FW product than FW themselves which is pretty funny.



At least one? I know two that for sure have twice the stock at this point haha.
   
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Seneca Nation of Indians

 General Kroll wrote:
Before long there won’t be much of anything left that’s not Space Marine related.


Even that stuff seem to be going.


Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
 
   
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Aspirant Tech-Adept








Usually ships within 35 days
. Wow. Made to Order?

Seeing the Renegades go is sad - they made the Guard plastics look good. And hey, they told us to use Rogue Psykers for Necromunda only a few month ago.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




What's the deadline for ordering the LCTB renegades ?
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




UK

 Yodhrin wrote:
 TwilightSparkles wrote:
hobojebus wrote:
You think recasters send them thank you cards when they do this?


Doubt it it's nearly all low sales volume items.


Which are supposed to be the whole point of Forgeworld as a company.



When you're the low sales volume selling items in the segment of the company that sells lower than normal volume then we are likely talking REALLY slow sales. And honestly with GW and FW loading themselves up with a lot more products that are selling and where there is demand I suspect that niche stuff is going to keep vanishing. There likely isn't room in the release schedual nor work rota to fit in a lot of these army types for a larger release for a long while.

It's sad to see things go, but at the same time I'd rather FW cut some stuff and then focused on producing more stuff that can and will sell

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Overread wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
 TwilightSparkles wrote:
hobojebus wrote:
You think recasters send them thank you cards when they do this?


Doubt it it's nearly all low sales volume items.


Which are supposed to be the whole point of Forgeworld as a company.



When you're the low sales volume selling items in the segment of the company that sells lower than normal volume then we are likely talking REALLY slow sales. And honestly with GW and FW loading themselves up with a lot more products that are selling and where there is demand I suspect that niche stuff is going to keep vanishing. There likely isn't room in the release schedual nor work rota to fit in a lot of these army types for a larger release for a long while.

It's sad to see things go, but at the same time I'd rather FW cut some stuff and then focused on producing more stuff that can and will sell


I had this argument a couple of pages ago - TL;DR, it costs them almost nothing to keep these products available, and it's certainly worth the goodwill.

It is not in any way a zero sum situation unless FW are in the kind of serious trouble in terms of their storage and casting facilities that makes dumping a handful of underperforming products like trying to stop a bleeding artery with a sticking plaster, in which case what they need is for GW to expand their facilities to the level necessary to support the range of products they're supposed to be selling. Hell they could put all this stuff into the "ships within 35 days" made to order timescale on a permanent basis and they wouldn't have to keep even a single cast in stock, just budget a couple of hours a month for the casting team to run up however many pre-paid orders have come in.

More & more this looks to me like it's not a case of necessity at all, it's GW-proper reorienting FW to basically serve as their low-volume casting house to replace metal/finecast going forward, for AoS in particular. If so that'd be a damn shame.

I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.

"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
-----
"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal 
   
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So I guess that means renegades will also never be getting a proper update, just as I start getting back into the game with them in mind as my army.


 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut






So, GW just teased about EU Day, but FW/Specialist is tomorrow and there has been zero info on what's going on.

Either they have so much stuff prepared (hence clearing shelf space with lctb), or they have absolutely nothing new and will end up showing painted Scoria and some 3 year old concept from Cyraxus

   
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 CragHack wrote:
So, GW just teased about EU Day, but FW/Specialist is tomorrow and there has been zero info on what's going on.

Either they have so much stuff prepared (hence clearing shelf space with lctb), or they have absolutely nothing new and will end up showing painted Scoria and some 3 year old concept from Cyraxus


I’m taking a three day round trip to visit this event so I’m not exactly thrilled about that.

Still, I can at least pick up an Ixion Hale I guess.
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




UK

Well EU day is probably going to be loaded up with Titanicus stuff; plus its a major European event and new so makes sense that they are bigging it up.

I think FW is in a transitional phase and thus at present we are seeing things lost in advance of seeing more stuff come out; however there is likely a lag time; they might only have greens and concepts at present rather than models; but we can wait in hope.

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FW/Specialist is also sold out. So unless they do like 200 tickets, I wouldn't call it small. GW event is a MONTH away and they are already teasing.


Still, I can at least pick up an Ixion Hale I guess.


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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster





London, UK

I hope that when it's the Ork turn to lose all of their stuff, I have enough to pick up the Gargantuan Squiggoth or the Kill Blaster.

I do think that they are heading for a model where forgeworld only sell stuff for the newer specialist games, eg titanicus, killteam and necromunda etc. As they're the team that will be driving them IIRC.
   
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UK

Rinky I don't think so since they've already announced that they've put together a Sigmar team for that whole range. Plus they've teased several new 40K focused models over the last months such as the new Necron knight scale unit.

What we are seeing is them focusing and cutting out a lot of stuff that just hasn't sold well for a long time or is/was part of a larger release that now isn't coming.

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Battlefield Professional




Nottingham, England

Backlash tomorrow morning if it's as bad as it's looking should be interesting..... I don't get why FW is potentially frustrating people spending money to visit them ?
   
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle





Portsmouth UK

Trying to resist buying more renegades. got most of the sets already but they've been boxed for ages. might just go for the psykers as i don't have them yet.

 CragHack wrote:
FW/Specialist is also sold out. So unless they do like 200 tickets, I wouldn't call it small. GW event is a MONTH away and they are already teasing.


Still, I can at least pick up an Ixion Hale I guess.


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United Kingdom

 Rinkydink wrote:
I hope that when it's the Ork turn to lose all of their stuff, I have enough to pick up the Gargantuan Squiggoth or the Kill Blaster.

I do think that they are heading for a model where forgeworld only sell stuff for the newer specialist games, eg titanicus, killteam and necromunda etc. As they're the team that will be driving them IIRC.


Orks have already lost loads iirc. Not in this latest wave of multiple consecutive weeks of lctb, but in a previous one and before we even got lctb warnings.

   
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Infiltrating Broodlord





London

Losing the Renegades is a blow. That was FW's best range, and needed filling out with the other gods more than anything.
   
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Fresh-Faced New User




I picked up 20 torsos. Was planning on getting way more in the future, so this is pretty annoying for me. I really like the look of the gas masks.

The disappearance of the old metal IG regiments and the traitor guard models makes me think there must be something in the pipeline. I won't hold my breath though. That wouldn't explain the disappearance of a few of the models in the range though, unless they will be replaced.
   
 
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