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Kill Team would be an extremely sensible way to re-intoduce the Lost and Damned in plastic, especially with what we've seen from Rogue Trader.
The same would make sense for giving us plastic Regiments. Not holding my breath for either - GW are just as likely to put out more Cadians instead at this point...

Getting rid of Elysians would also support the idea of a new plastic set in the works with new FW components to support them ala the Heresy components to go with the newer plastics.

 Dedwoods42 wrote:
Kill Team would be an extremely sensible way to re-intoduce the Lost and Damned in plastic, especially with what we've seen from Rogue Trader.
The same would make sense for giving us plastic Regiments. Not holding my breath for either - GW are just as likely to put out more Cadians instead at this point...

Was it the release of Scions, a whole new style of Stormtrooper and a massive reworking of the Stormtrooper fluff, rather than Kasrkin(essentially a localized variant of Stormtroopers) that made you think GW is more likely to put out more Cadians?

If we see anything for Cadians, it's likely to be a refresh of the basic Infantry kit to include some new options like we saw with the Tau Fire Warriors. I'm genuinely expecting a rejig of what Heavy Weapons can be taken in a Guard Infantry/Veteran Squad--expecting it to drop down to Missile Launchers, Heavy Stubbers, and a few other things that could conceivably be operated by a single person while the Heavy Weapon Teams retain the Mortars, Heavy Bolters, Autocannons, etc. I'd expect to potentially see the Heavy Weapon Squad box rejigged as well to also be able to be a Special Weapon Squad box as both would have 6 'models' effectively--3 with Lasguns and 3 with the main weapon.

People are overestimating what the various Regiments would need as well. There's a way to do things but it won't be pretty for anyone wanting to do an army. A single infantry box, a Heavy Weapon Squad/SWS box, and a Command Squad box--one of the three boxes could have spare bits ala the Wrack box for vehicle crew figures in your 'style'.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Dedwoods42 wrote:
Kill Team would be an extremely sensible way to re-intoduce the Lost and Damned in plastic, especially with what we've seen from Rogue Trader.
The same would make sense for giving us plastic Regiments. Not holding my breath for either - GW are just as likely to put out more Cadians instead at this point...

Was it the release of Scions, a whole new style of Stormtrooper and a massive reworking of the Stormtrooper fluff, rather than Kasrkin(essentially a localized variant of Stormtroopers) that made you think GW is more likely to put out more Cadians?

If we see anything for Cadians, it's likely to be a refresh of the basic Infantry kit to include some new options like we saw with the Tau Fire Warriors. I'm genuinely expecting a rejig of what Heavy Weapons can be taken in a Guard Infantry/Veteran Squad--expecting it to drop down to Missile Launchers, Heavy Stubbers, and a few other things that could conceivably be operated by a single person while the Heavy Weapon Teams retain the Mortars, Heavy Bolters, Autocannons, etc. I'd expect to potentially see the Heavy Weapon Squad box rejigged as well to also be able to be a Special Weapon Squad box as both would have 6 'models' effectively--3 with Lasguns and 3 with the main weapon.

People are overestimating what the various Regiments would need as well. There's a way to do things but it won't be pretty for anyone wanting to do an army. A single infantry box, a Heavy Weapon Squad/SWS box, and a Command Squad box--one of the three boxes could have spare bits ala the Wrack box for vehicle crew figures in your 'style'.

Dunno. Many kit-refreshs after the Scions have had a tendency to build a whole (mini-faction) around a formerly single codex entry such as Harlequins, Rubric Marines or Plague Marines. Seems that's more profitable to GW than simply doing the one ancient non-plastic Codex-entry in plastic without other add-ons.

If there're now "Guardsmen", it'll probably end up being its own spin-off Codex with some more unique units, not just a new kit to use with the existing AM Codex (doubly so, if GW needs to find ideas for Codex releases for 2019, 2020, etc. once all the existing armies have an 8th edition book).

 Overread wrote:
Rinky I don't think so since they've already announced that they've put together a Sigmar team for that whole range. Plus they've teased several new 40K focused models over the last months such as the new Necron knight scale unit.

What we are seeing is them focusing and cutting out a lot of stuff that just hasn't sold well for a long time or is/was part of a larger release that now isn't coming.

They put together a Sigmar team and then kill the extra stuff for the Free Guild. It does not make any sense.

They don’t even have warscrolls for everything in the AoS range. I imagine it will be monsters and marines by the tie they are finished.

Sunny Side Up wrote:

Dunno. Many kit-refreshs after the Scions have had a tendency to build a whole (mini-faction) around a formerly single codex entry such as Harlequins, Rubric Marines or Plague Marines. Seems that's more profitable to GW than simply doing the one ancient non-plastic Codex-entry in plastic without other add-ons.

Harlequins were their own army before becoming a single unit entry in the two Eldar books. Tzeentch and Death Guard got the same treatment that Khorne did with their Daemonkin book.

You're also forgetting that the Skitarii, Scions, and Farsight Enclaves(two of which had their own mini-dex while the third radically altered the codex itself) have been rolled into their codices proper.

If there're now "Guardsmen", it'll probably end up being its own spin-off Codex with some more unique units, not just a new kit to use with the existing AM Codex (doubly so, if GW needs to find ideas for Codex releases for 2019, 2020, etc. once all the existing armies have an 8th edition book).

I don't think they're lacking for ideas for codices.

 CragHack wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1710575492567307/ Next time you can just ask people in this group to pick something for you, if you are unable to do it by yourself

That's how I got my Ixion Hale!

How’d I manage to miss the fact that Open Day is tomorrow? Will watch with interest for the latest exact same 3-year-old Cyraxus slideshow.

 Verviedi wrote:
How’d I manage to miss the fact that Open Day is tomorrow? Will watch with interest for the latest exact same 3-year-old Cyraxus slideshow.

Sorry to disappoint already but it seems the seminars have been quietly removed..... TBF they said at Warhammer fest that it's basically on the back burner and the next books are talons and heresy book 8, then a focus on Titanicus and filling gaps in the Heresy range, alongside LOTR.

 Verviedi wrote:
How’d I manage to miss the fact that Open Day is tomorrow? Will watch with interest for the latest exact same 3-year-old Cyraxus slideshow.

Because tomorrow is likely to be a disaster on a par to that infamous UK gamesday that nearly killed them off.

Seminars all quietly given the emperor's mercy because they have nothing to talk about as GW have "advised" that the Tatanicus and Necro unveils will be at the European gamesday which is the next "major" event.

They cannot talk about new books as there are none after they were told to squat the IA books and other stuff they have been working on to do 3 other books requested by GW and to finish off that HH line thingy.

Expect to see a few HH models that may be available at some point for a few weeks. However in an exciting new twist rather than pre relase miniatures you will get to see the exciting line up of future LCTB miniatures and will have 1st chance to purchase them.

You will get to speak to a number of depressed and sheepish writers who will give non committal answers to every question and a member of management to blow smoke up your ass and ensure company line is toes.

Sadly there will be no sculptors present as FW proper no longer has a team just 1 guy so he is strangely busy considering the lack of product. Also there will be no members of the casting team present as they have been chained to there workstations to attempt to meet production targets of all the products that don't sell, please ignore any muffled screams or calls for help.

Remember this is new GW kindly do not look behind the curtains.

But Sean, they have a Facebook page now. And a YouTube channel! GW have changed!

@Seandrake your description of depressed writers and management is spot on to how it's been last couple of HQ events. I don't doubt they are talented people but most are obviously not comfortable in the setting they are in.

I think a tad too pessimistic on Titanicus as the blurb for 'fest talks about a new game being released then so it's likely Titanicus is released that weekend.i don't think we will get much more than a look at components in a cabinet though.

I always look forward to this event so I'm hoping to be surprised but I suspect for the first time in years I'll be coming awY disappointed and not spent much. Ofc if they early release the Sisters of Silence character then all is forgiven

With my expectations sufficiently lowered, I’ll be happy if we just get a look at the plastic warhound.

Im hoping for some kind of peek at a saurus bloodbowl team, but if such a thing is coming its probably in August:(

changemod wrote:
With my expectations sufficiently lowered, I’ll be happy if we just get a look at the plastic warhound.

Yeah, I'm hoping for the Warhound, next few things for Necromunda and hopefully the next HH book.

I'd hope for a sneak peek or two at least a concept art for some of the new Sigmar stuff

There had better be a more in depth cawdor reveal and news on gang war 4 contents, it's about time. Going by how GW has been doing things with necro Cawdor should be due out the first half of august. They haven't even done a proper reveal video for Cawdor like they did the first 4 gangs. A small teaser of chaosdwarfs/undead/lizardmen (I hope) for blood bowl also couldn't hurt.

I guess I should just prepare myself for disappointment.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
But Sean, they have a Facebook page now. And a YouTube channel! GW have changed!

You'll find that many companies have that double face. They will present themselves as very friendly to the customer but then have horrible condition to their employees. Is actually, at least in Spain, very common. The better one companny treats you the customer, the worst it is to his own employees. I don't know why.

 Galas wrote:
You'll find that many companies have that double face. They will present themselves as very friendly to the customer but then have horrible condition to their employees. Is actually, at least in Spain, very common. The better one companny treats you the customer, the worst it is to his own employees. I don't know why.

Oh I'm well aware. I just like to make fun of those who think that GW having a good social media presence some how makes up for (or even wipes away) all the bs they've done in the past, and continue to do to this day.

Just got the programme. Chunk of Blood Bowl, Scoria, Jenetia and Orlock upgrades are available

So maybe the Orlock ones will go on sale soon?

preview is up on the community page:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/07/15/15th-july-forge-world-open-day-return-to-middle-earthtmgw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-1/

hoping we get lots of photos of the new Titanicus stuff on display!

That power armoured Blood Angels praetor tho...

 sockwithaticket wrote:
That power armoured Blood Anges praetor tho...

Not sure if you are implying it looks great or terrible. In terms of previews it looks like today's main focus is the new lotr stuff. I can't believe GW are releasing 4 different big boxed games in 3 months. If they launched over the course of a year I would probably buy all of them, but as it is I am probably going to stick with soul wars for now.
I am very happy with the increased variety of products that forgeworld is putting out, but I can understand Heresy players feeling a bit left out.

Slab Lanternjaw, Hero of the Imperium, wielder of the galaxy's mightiest chin

So... that preview is almost entirely made up of stuff we've already seen.

The only new thing is the look at the new LOTR game.

Will there be new things at this open day?

Chikout wrote:
Not sure if you are implying it looks great or terrible.

I can't see how anyone can say anything but 'great' for these. Recent PA releases from FW were all terrible, from Red Scorpions to Custodes, but BA and AL shown today are ace...

EDIT - Though on second look, hands on the above mini are falling off. If that is the best expert FW modellers could do, it looks like all the steam went into looks, none into good build

Far as I'm aware a lot of GW and FW models are not fully assembled but are tacked together. This is oft done because I think a fair few of their painting staff work with separate parts and then put them together formally.

There was a funny situation in the past when one product photo made it all the way to the box of a unit of new Eldar models and the guns weren't on the models themselves. They were fully painted and clearly between shots the swap out of one gun for another didn't take place.

Some incredible cawdor artworks








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