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I just fething hate this amateurish bs. I mean, one time they do a LCTB that moves on like made to order, the next time they just clear out the stock. I really, really hope someone gets fired for incompetent managing.

I can’t believe the Thallax with irad cleansers are gone - I was told that it was going to be the vanilla Thallax cohort. Grrrr.....

SeanDrake wrote:

Is there any point in taking a risk buying FW stuff that is not specialist games?

They're now discontinuing troops of HH armies, so I don't think anything is safe anymore. And as they also have crap history of providing legacy rules for stuff that has gone out of production, so at this point I really see no reason to buy any FW stuff any more.

 Crimson wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:

Is there any point in taking a risk buying FW stuff that is not specialist games?

They're now discontinuing troops of HH armies, so I don't think anything is safe anymore. And as they also have crap history of providing legacy rules for stuff that has gone out of production, so at this point I really see no reason to buy any FW stuff any more.

My twelve gunwagonz will agree for sure...

Kinda scared for Nid stuff. I got plans to buy some Stonecrushers next month. I expect to see Meiotic Spores gone, especially since Mucolids from the main codex already cover that niche.

Looks like Forgeworld is discontinuing a bunch of xenos models

We need more xenos alternatives, not less. My only hope is that they are eliminating all of this product to free up space, so they can make more product that does not include space marines. Then again, I know better.

Its another sad day for xenos players.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Kinda scared for Nid stuff. I got plans to buy some Stonecrushers next month. I expect to see Meiotic Spores gone, especially since Mucolids from the main codex already cover that niche.

I can see both the Rippers and Skyslashers going - they are great ideas but way overpriced for what most want in such a model.
As you say the Meiotic Spores could also go due to GW proper having them in some form


Malanthrope and diamitchon are fairly safe I think. The Two titans might well say even though one is old and the other rather insane in its pose. The rest I can't be sure on.

I could see the twinlink devourers selling fast if they were put on lastchance.

Looks like most of the items have already gone! Transfers, some heads and that's it

Wow, lots pf good stuff gone this time. I have at least one of half that list. Glad i just did an order with atarus transfers to have some more for my knights

I still don’t get why they drop transfers. How much room do transfer sheets take up? I guess my Reaver won’t be Astorum after all.

It still annoys me to see them drop a troops choice from the Mechanicum. I have very rarely seen people take irad cleansers on their Thallax so I guess it would be a low seller. But it still makes me nervous for future Mechanicum cuts as they’re a niche of a niche in all honesty.

Bit gutted to see the Titan crew sold out so quick, not something I'd have normally have picked up but would have on LCTB. Sold out too quick for me to grab it!

Dang, there were several Ork and Tau models I would have bought but they went on LTCB after I went to sleep and were sold out before I woke up.

I wanted one of them Flakka Gunz dangit!

 Thanatos73 wrote:
I still don’t get why they drop transfers. How much room do transfer sheets take up?

I think it's less about the inventory space for transfer sheets and more that FW can't print their own. They have to contract it out to a third-party printer, likely with a minimum order size. So if a sheet isn't selling well enough to justify making another order it gets dropped.


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 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:
Dang, there were several Ork and Tau models I would have bought but they went on LTCB after I went to sleep and were sold out before I woke up.

I wanted one of them Flakka Gunz dangit!

WTF, seriously? I thought the whole point of LCTB is that you get a chance to buy, the stuff stays up for a week for a final round of orders.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Thanatos73 wrote:
I still don’t get why they drop transfers. How much room do transfer sheets take up?

I think it's less about the inventory space for transfer sheets and more that FW can't print their own. They have to contract it out to a third-party printer, likely with a minimum order size. So if a sheet isn't selling well enough to justify making another order it gets dropped.

Why not submit it along with the millions of ultramarine transfer prints that they request to be included in every space marine box.

Because a separate transfer sheet would be a separate order ...

 Thanatos73 wrote:
I still don’t get why they drop transfers. How much room do transfer sheets take up? I guess my Reaver won’t be Astorum after all.

It still annoys me to see them drop a troops choice from the Mechanicum. I have very rarely seen people take irad cleansers on their Thallax so I guess it would be a low seller. But it still makes me nervous for future Mechanicum cuts as they’re a niche of a niche in all honesty.

My concerns exactly! I am a fan of the cleansers in both looks and fluff terms and I use them a fair bit in zone mortalis but I can see why the other options are more popular. It makes me worry a bit for some of the castellax options and for the Scyllax seeing as they don’t seem to be as popular.

 inflatablefriend wrote:
Because a separate transfer sheet would be a separate order ...

I assume that we're all speculating about their internal process. To me that's the most frustrating part. The lack of communication from FW to explain what in the world they are doing. If low sales are the reason that they are pulling the transfers and the other items I'm not sure who signed off on niche knight household/titan transfer sheets as a possible money maker in the first place. This is a boutique part of their line. You're supposed to come for the transfers and stay for the leviathan dreadnought.

 Peregrine wrote:
WTF, seriously? I thought the whole point of LCTB is that you get a chance to buy, the stuff stays up for a week for a final round of orders.

In my time zone the LCTB email arrived at 12:48 AM and by the time I read it at about 7:20 AM most everything had sold out.

To be fair I'm on the opposite side of the world from GW, so it's to be expected that when they do things in the middle of the day it ends up being in the middle of the night for me. Still, that is an extremely short window of time and I'm annoyed. I'm tempted to write them a (polite) letter, but I don't know what that would actually accomplish.

bogalubov wrote:

 inflatablefriend wrote:
Because a separate transfer sheet would be a separate order ...

I assume that we're all speculating about their internal process. To me that's the most frustrating part.

No, that’s just how volume print runs work. Even PoD printers will collate identical jobs in order to reduce costs, and multi-colour transfers are definitely not PoD material.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Thanatos73 wrote:
I still don’t get why they drop transfers. How much room do transfer sheets take up?

I think it's less about the inventory space for transfer sheets and more that FW can't print their own. They have to contract it out to a third-party printer, likely with a minimum order size. So if a sheet isn't selling well enough to justify making another order it gets dropped.

This is probably accurate. Witness the legion dice, which seemed to sell well but were never brought back after FW apparently had some issues with their supplier. At the time they claimed they were looking for a new manufacturer. But that was 18(?) months ago and it's obvious that they aren't coming back. I'm guessing that outside vendors are just another thing for a short-staffed team to manage.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

bogalubov wrote:

 inflatablefriend wrote:
Because a separate transfer sheet would be a separate order ...

I assume that we're all speculating about their internal process. To me that's the most frustrating part.

No, that’s just how volume print runs work. Even PoD printers will collate identical jobs in order to reduce costs, and multi-colour transfers are definitely not PoD material.

As a big client they couldn't possibly request that something is done on the side of their large, standard order? Or they couldn't find someone to do on demand printing for smaller runs?

Just noticed a few other Mechanicum models are showing as Sold Out - No Longer Available (knight castigator, thanatar). Does this mean anything or is it just that they are out of stock?

Why buy FW models if at any time they can go on LCTB and then never get their rules updated again?

meleti wrote:
Why buy FW models if at any time they can go on LCTB and then never get their rules updated again?

Models are going to come and go, but I agree that all this purging recently makes me nervous, especially since we only have the Indexes so we don't know what is going to get updated rules and what is going to languish and eventually be Open Play only. I'm still going to buy FW models, but I'm probably only going to buy single models I think are cool from a collecting standpoint and not buy 3+ of anything until things are more certain.

I feel especially bad for people who got their whole ranges axed. I hope we'll be seeing new Elysians, R&H and other important models down the road, but who knows.

I get that they can't sell any particular model forever, but if I have no idea which models are going away when, I'm just incredibly wary of purchasing from FW.

I would like a Tiger Shark, for instance, but it seems entirely possible that model can get discontinued in a month. Same goes with Shas'o R'alai.

It would be nice if FW pledged to continue to provide rules for their models, at least, so I don't have to worry about buying a model that gets made obsolete after a year or two.

I agree with you. I'm glad I got one TX-42 Pirhana, but if I had purchased three like I was planning on I'd be somewhat concerned right now.

Similarly I'd like to get 3+ Malcador Defender tanks as part of a R&H force supporting my Iron Warriors, but it was already hard to justify the price over LRBTs and who knows if either the model or the army will have any support in a year or two.

To be fair, FW has been pretty good about supporting OOP models for a while. Quite a few of the index units are OOP models being given continued support.

 Peregrine wrote:
To be fair, FW has been pretty good about supporting OOP models for a while. Quite a few of the index units are OOP models being given continued support.

Tell that to people who bought that fantasy Land Ship!

 Peregrine wrote:
To be fair, FW has been pretty good about supporting OOP models for a while. Quite a few of the index units are OOP models being given continued support.

I have some looted rhinos which beg to disagree!!

bogalubov wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:

bogalubov wrote:

 inflatablefriend wrote:
Because a separate transfer sheet would be a separate order ...

I assume that we're all speculating about their internal process. To me that's the most frustrating part.

No, that’s just how volume print runs work. Even PoD printers will collate identical jobs in order to reduce costs, and multi-colour transfers are definitely not PoD material.

As a big client they couldn't possibly request that something is done on the side of their large, standard order? Or they couldn't find someone to do on demand printing for smaller runs?

That FW would be a "big client" to a commercial printer, or even GW in its entirety as we don't know the breakdown of what's sourced from where, is a fairly fundamental assumption.