Forgeworld 2019 News & Rumours-BA Dawnbreakers Pg 163

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**zedmeister**

From Mango Polo on B&C

notes:

White Scars:
- Unique units are Terminators, a Javelin variant, and a jetbike pattern
- Khan has rules for both on-foot and on jetbike
- Only two characters, Qin Xa and ???

Custodes (and only custodes, no sisters)
- Full army list with all of the recent additions
- Aim is to rebalance the army
- Sagittarium guards guns are now assault (were: heavy)

Legiones Astartes:
- 5 new consuls (dread consul, 2x psyker consuls, 'warmonger' consul, tech marine-y consul)
- Updated rules for destroyers
- A sizeable number of generic new units, including some infantry

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White Scars from Mango Polo of B&C

And finally,

KHHHAAAAANNNNN!

**Ghorgul**

zedmeister wrote:
From Mango Polo on B&C

notes:

White Scars:
- Unique units are Terminators, a Javelin variant, and a jetbike pattern
- Khan has rules for both on-foot and on jetbike
- Only two characters, Qin Xa and ???

Custodes (and only custodes, no sisters)
- Full army list with all of the recent additions
- Aim is to rebalance the army
- Sagittarium guards guns are now assault (were: heavy)

Legiones Astartes:
- 5 new consuls (dread consul, 2x psyker consuls, 'warmonger' consul, tech marine-y consul)
- Updated rules for destroyers
- A sizeable number of generic new units, including some infantry

UUuuuuuu, I'm so excited!

A sizeable number of generic new units, including some infantry

This sounds so good! Also the addition of new consuls is welcome.

**Irbis**

Apparently Sanguinary Guard won't get any rules. At all. Despite being big part of BA in HH Black Library books, despite one of most important BA characters being Sanguinary Guard leader, despite their 40K fluff stating it's original 30K armour and weapons preserving the unit as it was. Bitter much you wouldn't get to charge 80 pounds for 5, FW?

**zedmeister**

Irbis wrote:
Apparently Sanguinary Guard won't get any rules. At all. Despite being big part of BA in HH Black Library books, despite one of most important BA characters being Sanguinary Guard leader, despite their 40K fluff stating it's original 30K armour and weapons preserving the unit as it was. Bitter much you wouldn't get to charge 80 pounds for 5, FW?

They've got Atramentar'd!

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Solomon Khan, the 2nd scars character. Suspected traitor

**sockwithaticket**

Irbis wrote:
Apparently Sanguinary Guard won't get any rules. At all. Despite being big part of BA in HH Black Library books, despite one of most important BA characters being Sanguinary Guard leader, despite their 40K fluff stating it's original 30K armour and weapons preserving the unit as it was. Bitter much you wouldn't get to charge 80 pounds for 5, FW?

My take on it is that they think, with the plastic kit out there, no one will pay FW prices for the models regardless of how amazing they look. Other than a handful of die hard collectors, they're probably right.

**tneva82**

Irbis wrote:
Apparently Sanguinary Guard won't get any rules. At all. Despite being big part of BA in HH Black Library books, despite one of most important BA characters being Sanguinary Guard leader, despite their 40K fluff stating it's original 30K armour and weapons preserving the unit as it was. Bitter much you wouldn't get to charge 80 pounds for 5, FW?

More like 50e/5 guy so nowhere near those levels

Plus besides they could have made them easily so thjt using plastic is same as using say mk7 assault marines

**zedmeister**

From Heresy30k

4 units for BA

- 5 man assault squad, 2+ armour. Power swords with either +1I or sunder+rending. Do damage on deepstrike. Troops choice for sanguinius.

- crimson paladins. 3men at 160pts. Shields are - 1melee strength. They have a 5+FNP which goes up to 4+ if outnumbered.

-Angels Tears. Destroyers with volkite serpentas

- Contemptor with a one use jump pack and 2 blades of perdition.

- Destroyer character + Raldoron

- Sanguinius is expensive. Sword is a boosted paragon blade. Spear is +3S Ap1, armour bane, instant death etc

Can be thrown for a +1S Ap1 shooting attack with same bonuses. Moonsilver is ap3 sword with blind and bonuses vs daemons. Sanguinius has a 4++ which he can reroll on the charge. He's ws9 with a shed of attacks. Also obviously jump unit.

WS have 4 units:

- 3 man jetbike with literal lances. They are S7 Ap1 on the charge at I10. However only 1 attack ever.

- Terminators that never count for VPs.

- Recon squad. 4+ armour, lightning claws and can redeploy at start of game. Can take cyber hawks. V. Cheap.

- Speeder with assault cannon and 2 autocannons.

Characters are qin xa, and a new character who can be mounted or not. If he's not he gets to take a sister of silence who boosts his attacks + gives fearless. He has thammer that can do one at init attack.

Khan has mounted and not mounted. Mounted is tougher, not is cheaper and higher I. He had a hella good spear and cann come in from outflank picking the side in advance. He's hot a 5++ to shooting. 3++ in combat.

Sisters on jetbike are in design.

Lion will have lions blade and a his chainsword.

**FabricatorGeneralMike**

damnnnnn those White Scars sound amazing..... humm mk2 is a pain to get tho.... i'm sure ill find a way tho.

Thank you all for the info dumps can't wait to see more. Great stuff so far.

**bubber**

with demons coming to 30K, can someone ask if demon engines & possessed titans coming to Titanicus please?

**tneva82**

bubber wrote:
with demons coming to 30K, can someone ask if demon engines & possessed titans coming to Titanicus please?

Possible but seeing they were basically introduced at the end of titandeath they didn't play much part in HH as such. As such I would expect more generic things to come first. Variant titan classes etc. Hopefully tomorrow comes more info on the future of AT seminar.

**Lord Damocles**

Unless Khan can be mounted on a Predator tank, like in the Siege of the Emperor's Palace mega display, I'll be very disappointed.

**zedmeister**

New white scar. Or is it....?

**H.B.M.C.**

I guess he has to resist saying "I am Alpharius!".

**casvalremdeikun**

I love the diorama pose for Sanguinius. Now I have the dilemma of which weapon to give him. They both look great with respect to the diorama. Unfortunately, it only looks like there is a sheathed option for the sword.

But I just had a great idea. I am going to remove the hand from the spear and have it already stabbed into the daemon as if Sang threw it, and then have him following up with the sword. Best of both worlds.

**Morskul**

casvalremdeikun wrote:
I love the diorama pose for Sanguinius. Now I have the dilemma of which weapon to give him. They both look great with respect to the diorama. Unfortunately, it only looks like there is a sheathed option for the sword.

But I just had a great idea. I am going to remove the hand from the spear and have it already stabbed into the daemon as if Sang threw it, and then have him following up with the sword. Best of both worlds.

You could always just magnetise it

**casvalremdeikun**

Morskul wrote:
casvalremdeikun wrote:
I love the diorama pose for Sanguinius. Now I have the dilemma of which weapon to give him. They both look great with respect to the diorama. Unfortunately, it only looks like there is a sheathed option for the sword.

But I just had a great idea. I am going to remove the hand from the spear and have it already stabbed into the daemon as if Sang threw it, and then have him following up with the sword. Best of both worlds.

You could always just magnetise it

I could, but this way I can have the weapon options all on display at once. Spear stabbed into the daemon, sword drawn with Sang diving in for the kill. Perfect.

**Dreadclaw69**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Gorgeous.

With the scenic/diorama base that pose makes sense. That is a lot closer to the mini I've been looking forward to for a quarter of a century.

**zedmeister**

From Garro

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White Scars Praetors, contemptor, Levisthan and Keshig currently being shown...

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Very.nice.

**tneva82**

I'm sooooo tempted to get Cawdor gang just to have excuse for those bomb rats. Cute. No idea is there necromunda games around here but just awesome idea.