Forgeworld 2019 News & Rumours-BA Dawnbreakers Pg 163

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**Danny76**

Darkwrath121 wrote:
Danny76 wrote:
Darkwrath121 wrote:

According to my friend asking around at the event, Khan isn't even in production. Lion might be next for a model (they also talked about his weapon options).

Makes sense I guess, seeing how they probably had some of the Lion in progress back before the book got split into two parts.

I never thought of that.
Hope for the Lion yet.. I had just relegated myself to last in the queue ages back..

However, assuming it’s Egan doing it, would he be working on multiples at once? Or just concentrating on one model at a time..

I imagine one at a time.

Also, to make clear, the mention of the Lion possibly being first were apparently the designer's words, not mine or my friends. Which to me indicates some work on it already existing, especially as they've said book 9 is already being worked on. Other sources at the event said they made mention of the Lion having access to both the Lion Sword and the Wolf Blade chainsword as options, so something interesting is in the pipeline either way!

Exciting times.
Hope it ends up being the case, and maybe a preview of some kind at the end of today, with release early Summer

**zedmeister**

Looking at some new pictures, it appears the new Knight has what looks to be the Karacnos Rad Mortar as well:

**Dysartes**

That thing is a beast - is it around the same size as the Porphy?

**ImAGeek**

Dysartes wrote:
That thing is a beast - is it around the same size as the Porphy?

It’s the same chassis I think, just the Mechanicus version (like the Cerastus - Atropos).

**Redemption**

It's an Acastus class Knight like the Porphy yes.

**Irbis**

ingtaer wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Midnightdeathblade wrote:
Just give two of them a snip

Why? The more topknots you have, the more powerful you are.

Is that why his sword got one as well? (yes, I know its a tassel)

No, it's because the mongols used 'top knots' made from horse hair as personal and unit banners, from one (least important) to nine "knots" arranged in circle (banner of the great khan). It's even still in use today as state emblem:

Spoiler:

**MajorWesJanson**

With the skull and more exotic weapons, I plan to paint that new knight black and use is as a knight version of a commissar/chaplain.

**zedmeister**

From Garro

**Kosake**

So, two twinned autocannons, an assault cannon, two rocket launchers, a poking stick and you just know that both guys in the cockpit have a chainsword somewhere about their person. Yeah, I think that's enough dakka for one land speeder.

**Formosa**

What a waste of a land speeder, strip off all that white scars iconography and release it as a standard legion speeder for 30k/40k

**zedmeister**

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**queen_annes_revenge**

From speaking to the designers, Khan may be available with bike and non bike options when he arrives. From the amount of scars stuff here this weekend I'd say he's probably next, but there were also talk of dark angels too so I wouldn't want to place any bets yet.

**Hotrod**

Is there any talk of an alternate head option for the new Acastus knight? It looks pretty awesome, but the skull head really ruins it for me...

**MajorWesJanson**

queen_annes_revenge wrote:
From speaking to the designers, Khan may be available with bike and non bike options when he arrives. From the amount of scars stuff here this weekend I'd say he's probably next, but there were also talk of dark angels too so I wouldn't want to place any bets yet.

I can see the humor in the Primarch of the First Legion being the last one released...

**ImAGeek**

Formosa wrote:
What a waste of a land speeder, strip off all that white scars iconography and release it as a standard legion speeder for 30k/40k

Strip of all the scars iconography and it basically is the standard 30k landspeeder.

**Formosa**

ImAGeek wrote:
Formosa wrote:
What a waste of a land speeder, strip off all that white scars iconography and release it as a standard legion speeder for 30k/40k

Strip of all the scars iconography and it basically is the standard 30k landspeeder.

just looking at it thinking how good it would be in 40k, 8 autocannon shots and 6 assault cannon shots, likely around 120pts, seems like they have make a mistake with this unit making it white scars only.

**zedmeister**

Formosa wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:
Formosa wrote:
What a waste of a land speeder, strip off all that white scars iconography and release it as a standard legion speeder for 30k/40k

Strip of all the scars iconography and it basically is the standard 30k landspeeder.

just looking at it thinking how good it would be in 40k, 8 autocannon shots and 6 assault cannon shots, likely around 120pts, seems like they have make a mistake with this unit making it white scars only.

This fits their entire ethos so why can't they have a unique vehicle? Also, I can see this as the ancestor of the Land Speeder Tempest.

**MajorWesJanson**

Formosa wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:
Formosa wrote:
What a waste of a land speeder, strip off all that white scars iconography and release it as a standard legion speeder for 30k/40k

Strip of all the scars iconography and it basically is the standard 30k landspeeder.

just looking at it thinking how good it would be in 40k, 8 autocannon shots and 6 assault cannon shots, likely around 120pts, seems like they have make a mistake with this unit making it white scars only.

Scars gettin a unique landspeeder is fair. Look at Dark Angels with their unique speeder and plane, BA with a unique Predator, or Space Wolves with their unique flier in 40k.

**zedmeister**

Some highlights from M R Parker on B&C

Alpha Legion in with White Scars at Chondax. No idea on what they’ve included, but they are there in the wings.

New unit for the White Scars - the Golden Keshig, riding heavy jetbikes and wielding spears. Sound pretty interesting.

Blood Angels ‘top tier’ units are in two different forms. The Crimson Paladins, who protect Sanguinius’ halls (rather than Sang himself) but also act as elite warriors for campaigns. The Angel’s Tears are the other side, and are a destroyer unit that Sang deploys when he is really angry and wants something obliterated rather than getting a victory. They have the silver death masks, and put their true identity to one side while they serve, and when their duty is done the actions and the associated shame is left with the mask while the wearer rejoins the Legion.

Oh - Ka’Bandrha has a model in progress.

Indefragable also of B&C

Book 9:

Thramas Crusade:
Full scale WAR across a swath of space...Chondax, even Signus etc... are campaigns, but Thramas is a WAR in terms of scale.

I Legion is the most powerful fighting force in the galaxy for quite some time...essentially until the rise of the Ultramarines and centuries of attrition finally set in.

...all their special gear is Terran pattern as opposed to Martian pattern. Partially b/c they were flung out on campaign before the twin eagles were fully United, partially b/c the Emperor wanted to have an option to “deal” with the Mechanicum should things ever sour.

Dark Angels were a go-to option for Big E when he wanted special dire threats dealt with....will be particularly good against MC’s/Mechanicum type units (acid shells good example?)

Will also have Terran-pattern robots* as opposed to Mechanicum made ones. Watching the watchers...

Full list of Dark Mechanicum.

Mechanicum also had options for specifically dealing with Astartes should the Imperium/Mechanicum split...

Additional details on Night Lords.

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Another snippet from M R Parker

Oh - and regarding White Scar dread’s. They’re not 100% against them, but for a Scar it’s the epitome of pergatory. For the Scars it’s about experiencing warfare with their senses, and being locked away in a Dread is sensory isolation. They exist outside of the traditional command structure and tend to do their own thing. Typically they guard the gene-stocks and Legion lore, however they have free reign to do whatever they want. Occasionally they decide to join a campaign, and the commanders in charge are loathe to turn them down even though it’s seen as an omen for dire times. A large number requested to join the Chondax

**Danny76**

Has it all finished now?
No extra little reveals to come?

**tneva82**

Danny76 wrote:
Has it all finished now?
No extra little reveals to come?

[4

o pm GMT] Rounding Up

Phew – what a weekend it’s been! While we’ve been reporting from all the action inside the seminar halls, there’s been an incredible energy outside them too, as fans come together to celebrate their love of the 31st Millennium.

Sounds like it. How long does it go anyway? What's the closing day.

Plenty of titanicus news so good day! Only trouble is now the wait for release days begin! AAARGH!

**Danny76**

Ok cool.
Was hoping for a book nine schedule or something.

And it’s LVO next week is it?
They’ve been big for revealing there in the past years haven’t they?
(Less for FW and more GW I guess, particularly after this big amount of stuff)

**tneva82**

Well they have only started working book 9 and gave initial previews. Woudln't expect release date being announced any time soon. Probably next year earliest anyway

**Midnightdeathblade**

Are there any more model showings today? What was the big thing HH fans have been waiting for forever?

**Alpharius**

The White Scars during the Unification Wars?

**BrookM**

More Solar Auxilia!

No..?

Okay.

**Darkwrath121**

tneva82 wrote:
Well they have only started working book 9 and gave initial previews. Woudln't expect release date being announced any time soon. Probably next year earliest anyway

According to Anuj at the event, a lot of it is done, but it'll still be 6 months of playtesting and 6 months of printing and shipping.

There was even mention of the Lion currently being playtested!

**Danny76**

tneva82 wrote:
Well they have only started working book 9 and gave initial previews. Woudln't expect release date being announced any time soon. Probably next year earliest anyway

I’m not sure they’ve only just started though.

As all that DA stuff was originally in book 8 so quite a bit have already been plotted out or written etc

**Midnightdeathblade**

So is book 8 for sale at the event? Or are we still waiting.

**tneva82**

IT was preorder at the event.