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I actually quite like it. I think it's cool that 40k is exploring some of the more interesting aspects of its lore and its people; they're not all just musclebound and heroically handsome anymore.

The miniature is grotesque, as an inbred mutant psyker should be, and outlandish, as a Dramatis Personae in Necromunda should be. It's got a very Blanchian vibe to it, and I think it has a lot going for it. Admittedly the paintjob is not fantastic, but it's certainly better than I can achieve, so I wouldn't presume to insult it.

Yeah, Forgeworld genuinely needs to go with top-tier paintjobs, or none at all. The paintwork they're doing is damaging the impression I get of their miniatures in a big way.

And I say that as someone who paints about the level they've been showing of lately....and I'm saying that's nowhere near good enough to use as advertisement. They're hiding the quality of their sculpts under really mediocre brushwork. I can't believe someone in charge thinks it's an acceptable level to promote.

Those paint jobs are terrible yet again, ive seen smaller companies employ the services of better painters, dont FW realise that a wicked paint job helps sell a mini and im sure their paint jobs used to be loads better in the past!

As for the minis i dont mind them, the re-purposed Physker is a bit lazy but i like the floating blob apart from the hands on the mechanical tentacles but they are easily snipped off!

Good to see this thread is as predictable and constructive as ever. A new release is posted with a paint job better than what 95% of players can do, and all we get is the same old page after page of people whining about how "awful" it is.

 Peregrine wrote:
Good to see this thread is as predictable and constructive as ever. A new release is posted with a paint job better than what 95% of players can do, and all we get is the same old page after page of people whining about how "awful" it is.

You don't have to be a chef to know if the food you're tasting is terrible.

With that said, the paint jobs do the minimum of showing details while, well, painted. That's perfectly fine. You can't deny a couple of the recent ones (that crocodile monster one especially) were simply BAD.

Mantic need Angel Giraldez painting them to make the gakky minis look half decent.






I always look at the resin versions anyway myself as even these gakky paint jobs are out of my league...



Saying that though, these poor paint jobs definitely make the models look a lot worse than they are and only serve to put people off.

 Rayvon wrote:
Mantic need Angel Giraldez painting them to make the gakky minis look half decent.






I always look at the resin versions anyway myself as even these gakky paint jobs are out of my league...



Saying that though, these poor paint jobs definitely make the models look a lot worse than they are and only serve to put people off.

Actually Mantic has produced some nice minis lately. Some of the resin minis are quite good. The new goblins are more sophisticated and better sculpted then GW ones.


Paint job helps a lot but not even Sergio Calvio could save these FW atrocities.

 ghosty wrote:
Admittedly the paintjob is not fantastic, but it's certainly better than I can achieve, so I wouldn't presume to insult it.

Unless you also happen to be a professional painter getting paid to paint display models for a multimillion company, then insult away.

I would never talk bad about those paintjobs if I ran across them in a tournament or something, painted by a random dude. They're decent tabletop quality at least and perhaps more. But as a paintjob to showcase these (sometimes) extremely detailed and (always) expensive resin minis, made for a niche audience, they don't pass the mustard. They deserve a degree mockery and insult, regardless of how well we consumers can paint.

 Peregrine wrote:
Good to see this thread is as predictable and constructive as ever. A new release is posted with a paint job better than what 95% of players can do, and all we get is the same old page after page of people whining about how "awful" it is.

With how ironic this post his coming from you, I don't know if it is genuine or a "joke".

Okay guys, let's get back on track here with news and rumours. Kindly take discussion of the paint jobs to a thread of its own, thanks!

 BrookM wrote:
Okay guys, let's get back on track here with news and rumours. Kindly take discussion of the paint jobs to a thread of its own, thanks!

Sorry, Boss, but it and the horrendous sculpts are sort of the Elephant, or at least the Jagdtiger, in the room.

I don't think it's that big of a deal, I'd rather look at the unpainted models for reference anyway.

What I DO think is a big deal however, is the lack of big releases. We had the weekender, but the new Black Book is still not out, and more importantly (for me): the new Dreadnought Drop Pod is not out either!

GIVE ME MY BIG BOY DROP POD

 alleus wrote:
I don't think it's that big of a deal, I'd rather look at the unpainted models for reference anyway.

What I DO think is a big deal however, is the lack of big releases. We had the weekender, but the new Black Book is still not out, and more importantly (for me): the new Dreadnought Drop Pod is not out either!

GIVE ME MY BIG BOY DROP POD

Reports from the weekender said the book would be March.

Wonder if we'll see the dark angels before 2020.

hobojebus wrote:
Wonder if we'll see the dark angels before 2020.

We won’t get book 9 before 2020, no. We might see some models later in the year maybe.

 ImAGeek wrote:

hobojebus wrote:
Wonder if we'll see the dark angels before 2020.

We won’t get book 9 before 2020, no. We might see some models later in the year maybe.

They were one book at one point but you're right probably match next year.

Blood Bowl Nurgle Rotspawn (€25,-) https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Nurgle-Rotspawn-2019

He's adorable.

Anyone else seen the film "teeth"?
That's all I can think of seeing this dudes face.


Apart from that it's a fairly nice model though.

It's alright but nothing even a fairly new Modeller couldn't knock up with some GS and current nurgle parts..

Love this guy !

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
It's alright but nothing even a fairly new Modeller couldn't knock up with some GS and current nurgle parts..

Sure,
Lets see your effort then.

I think some people severely underestimate how difficult sculpting actually is.
It's not quite as simple as getting out the GS and magically a model appears.
Even getting flat or contoured surfaces is difficult unless you do it often.

Alot of professional sculptors will tell you that it's still not easy despite the ton of experience they have had.

The model is fairly plain looking, but I like that.
It's bloodbowl so these models won't have a metric ton of armour and accessories hanging off them.

Jackal90 wrote:
I think some people severely underestimate how difficult sculpting actually is.
It's not quite as simple as getting out the GS and magically a model appears.
Even getting flat or contoured surfaces is difficult unless you do it often.

Alot of professional sculptors will tell you that it's still not easy despite the ton of experience they have had.

The model is fairly plain looking, but I like that.
It's bloodbowl so these models won't have a metric ton of armour and accessories hanging off them.

If course sculpting isn't easy. But nurgle stuff is very forgiving. I just dont think much of that sculpt. The hand over the rim looks good, but the rest doesn't really impress me.


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 Rayvon wrote:
Love this guy !

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
It's alright but nothing even a fairly new Modeller couldn't knock up with some GS and current nurgle parts..

Sure,
Lets see your effort then.

Sorry what? A little childish don't you think?

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Sorry what? A little childish don't you think?

You were the one that said any new modeller could do better, just because you didn't like it, that sounds pretty childish to me.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

Jackal90 wrote:
I think some people severely underestimate how difficult sculpting actually is.
It's not quite as simple as getting out the GS and magically a model appears.
Even getting flat or contoured surfaces is difficult unless you do it often.

Alot of professional sculptors will tell you that it's still not easy despite the ton of experience they have had.

The model is fairly plain looking, but I like that.
It's bloodbowl so these models won't have a metric ton of armour and accessories hanging off them.

If course sculpting isn't easy. But nurgle stuff is very forgiving. I just dont think much of that sculpt. The hand over the rim looks good, but the rest doesn't really impress me.


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 Rayvon wrote:
Love this guy !

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
It's alright but nothing even a fairly new Modeller couldn't knock up with some GS and current nurgle parts..

Sure,
Lets see your effort then.

Sorry what? A little childish don't you think?

Nurgle is indeed forgiving to sculpting mistakes as they tend to fit in quite well.
This isn't the case here.
The surfaces are clean and well purposed.
The model as a whole fits perfectly and nothing stands out.

Being able to make a few mistakes and hiding them is one thing, but this model isn't one of those cases.
This model is still very far from easy to sculpt and it's far beyond the capabilities of a "newer" modeller.

I'd say that it's more for some of the top sculptors here on dakka (Navarro for one)

Meh.

Sad it isn't new Titan weapons in either scale. But this is one of those cases where the paint job is well done, and enhances the model over the bare resin, rather than the opposite.

On the plus side at least the paint job on this one is good.

I would have liked some Titan weapons to be honest, not played BB for a while, still waiting for my teams.

Re: ease sculpting, I agree it's relatively simple, but is it worth more to you to spend the time making one for cheap or to buy one and paint or play more?

I'm reasonably accomplished sculpting, but would usually prefer spending that time improving kits. If making my version of kits, it's usually trying to tweak things, like getting a new character out of a basic kit than trying my hand at blob monsters and getting the proportions right.