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I think part of the negativity towards JB, especially criticism of his technical aptitude, is due to people looking at his concept sketches as if they were finished pieces of art. They’re simply not and not intended to be. They’re quick ideas, usually the beginning of a design process that involves multiple people, intended only to be a springboard for the creativity of a whole team. His actual finished art is incredible, but of course, it comes down to taste whether you like it or not.
Honestly, anyone is free to like John Blanche’s art or not like it. However, as someone who has studied art myself, I’ll always defend John Blanche from the charge of being a terrible artist. I’m my view he’s brilliant, but just not to everyone’s taste.
As a fellow student of art, I agree with this generally. I also think a lot of people who get into 30k stuff because of the "pseudo-historicals" vibe have a marginally greater interest in realism and militaria, which runs counter to the outré psychedelia of Blanche
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Kabal of the Slit Throat ~2000pts
Elect of the Plaguefather 4500pts
Slayer-Fan123 wrote: Okay I'm totally digging that Deredeo with that Missile Rack. That's just awesome.
Yeah, I'm glad I didn't glue mine in place, but how come we've got a preview of a weapon we've no rules for, and we're still waiting for the shield thing which we do?
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Heard that myself. Most disappointing if true. Here's the official text but it doesn't offer any clues
The Termite isn’t the only classic model getting a reimagining though. Many of you may have fond memories of the first metal Space Marines Land Speeder model. Well, it’s coming back – sort of. The Legion Land Speeder is a modern reimagining of this old classic, fusing its look with the modern Space Marines aesthetic, and we’re sure it’ll find a place in many Horus Heresy and Warhammer 40,000 armies.
Aurox looks nice, but the heavy stubber is very much out of place if its supposed to be an Auxilia transport, you'd expect a multi-laser on the pintle at the very least.
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Okay, it comes with a multi-laser standard, GOOD.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, this fething monster..
Looks to match his prowess on the tabletop.
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zedmeister wrote: Rumoured for tomorrow is a new Dreadnought Drop Pod
Color me interested!
Apart from switch of rules everything sounds awesome. Hopefully that was misinformation. Hh changing to rules only worthy of being to thrown to trashbin would be bad as hell
I read they’re getting everything out in 7th first?
they want all 18 legions out, then new red legion book, then review but they didn't push staying in 7th as an option (hybrid, 8th or brand new) that was from the Age of Darkness forum. In the Malevolence seminar they put the Legion red book as 2020,so ages away.
Annoyingly they said that rather than FAQ the needed changes that it might end up being a new red book, which would either delay a black book or be ages away. That felt like they wanted pressure on Tony C. for more resources than anything serious.
zedmeister wrote: Rumoured for tomorrow is a new Dreadnought Drop Pod
Color me interested!
Apart from switch of rules everything sounds awesome. Hopefully that was misinformation. Hh changing to rules only worthy of being to thrown to trashbin would be bad as hell
I read they’re getting everything out in 7th first?
Yes, then they'll decide on where to go from there. No gaurantee they'll switch, just reexamine the issue at that point.
Everything? Is that everything involved in the early to mid Heresy that the FW books have covered so far, or all the way to the seige of Terra?
A hybrid would likely be better than 7th or 8th. There are many aspects of 8th that are much better (and more consistent) than 7th, but the increased granularity of 7th benefits 30k with its reduced diversity in core army lists. A combo could combine the best aspects of both, and be very suited for the 30k setting.
ChargerIIC wrote: If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is.
Well if they are not expecting to do a new Legion red book until 2020, who knows what edition 40k will be on by the time FW have the resources to switch over.
Hardly anybody in the room wanted pure 8th, so I doubt it will be that. The majority of HH players I see at these events and associated tournaments don't like 8th at all.
From a BL talk Chris Wraight said that the BL books for the Siege of Terra might be branded differently from the HH books. I could see FW finishing of HH with 7th after the next two black books then starting the Siege as a new series with a new core ruleset.
Hmm if they do change rules set part way through the Heresy I wonder what that would mean for the content in the existing black books? Thinner or combined versions with the army lists removed and the campaign rules tweaked for the new rules could appeal.
The way I see it the main problems with 7th edition were the ludicrous army composition rules (which FW already fixed) and the fairly pointless sub-game called the vehicle rules. Since the job is half done, I’d just give vehicles full profiles like 8th and be done. You can even keep damage tables; instead of having degrading stats, give vehicles thresholds where you resolve minor and major damage rolls.
"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran
Part of the reasoning they gave for staying with 7th till all of the Legions had full HH rules was that it became standalone. Then you can stay 7th with the existing models you own or move on.
Big chunks of the rules are already invalidated in the older black books and it will get much worse in the final 7th Legion book as they are planning on a lot of point and balance changes. You can't really play without at least one red army book and the red core rulebook already.
People asked for a smaller core rulebook in a starter set, they liked the idea but wanted people to voice their desire for it via customer services and direct to Tony C.
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Looky Likey wrote: Hardly anybody in the room wanted pure 8th, so I doubt it will be that. The majority of HH players I see at these events and associated tournaments don't like 8th at all.
From a BL talk Chris Wraight said that the BL books for the Siege of Terra might be branded differently from the HH books. I could see FW finishing of HH with 7th after the next two black books then starting the Siege as a new series with a new core ruleset.
It probably will bring about some really badass models. Maybe even terran terrain like hive, imp palace, Luna stuff would nifty, the possibilities are endless(ok, maybe not that).
Slayer-Fan123 wrote: Okay I'm totally digging that Deredeo with that Missile Rack. That's just awesome.
Yeah, I'm glad I didn't glue mine in place, but how come we've got a preview of a weapon we've no rules for, and we're still waiting for the shield thing which we do?
Not much longer to wait I think. There’s a photo of a Dredero in a display cabinet with a strange disc on top of it...
BrookM wrote: Having to buy certain books again would be a gak move.
If it was up to me I'd strip all the rules content out into 8th(?) edition red books for the core rules, campaigns and army lists. Then re release smaller background only versions of the existing black books so that newer players could access all the sweet fluffy goodness.
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
I'm pondering the likelihood of various 30k Custodes items getting ported over to 40k. I'd really like those melta-spears. If 10 of those teleported into the enemy's lines it would reek havoc.
Slayer-Fan123 wrote: Okay I'm totally digging that Deredeo with that Missile Rack. That's just awesome.
Yeah, I'm glad I didn't glue mine in place, but how come we've got a preview of a weapon we've no rules for, and we're still waiting for the shield thing which we do?
Not much longer to wait I think. There’s a photo of a Dredero in a display cabinet with a strange disc on top of it...
Thats the Atomantic Parvaise, which they've been showing a model of for over a year now without putting it on sale.
Opinions vary, but for whats its worth, in my opinion Valdor is a mess and they missed a trick by not making it so you had the option not to build him with the ugly cyber bird, quasi daemon and random animal arm hanging off him. From the parts breakdowns those bits are designed/integrated with others so absent them you get ugly carve outs/detail loss. The new 40K Captain General showed how to do it with the Lion bit being optional.
A cleaner figure absent the above, keeping his cape, would have looked amazing.
As it is I look at the Shield Captain and think he has all the elements of Valdor (putting aside the goober-head and lack of over-bling) and think he makes a better Valdor.
But then i look at the Shield Captain and aks why? We have Iaxon Hale, and now the new 40K chap. The various plastic sets have parts sufficient to make any number of Captain-like figures (absent the strategically placed tactical rock).
Very odd.
The rest of the teases are very cool - the Alpha Legion stuff in particular looks great from the two images provided, in my opinion much better than the comical Space Wolf stuff which is well off the mark relative to the 40K equivalent bits.
Dorn does look great but I cant help thinking they repurposed Horus' cape - I would swear its the same part but with Fist detailing. Its even got the same stress striation in the fabric in the same places as Horus'. I plan to leave it off when I get and build mine (assuming it isn't integrated into another bit such that there would be obvious detail/part loss etc - I'm looking in particular at how it contacts the shoulder pad and back generator).
I love the little Termite - that's so cool. Whoever sculpted that, and the Sisters vehicle have a real eye for making interesting shapes into great looking vehicles
Those damn monkeys keep stealing my saving throws
Azrael13: Conversions should be a choice, not a necessity to make a "premium" product acceptable.
I know I'm going to sound like a cheapskate, but I'm thinking that scratch building a decent looking termite will be pretty easy. Start with a piece of PVC pipe, a little plasticard, some left over Tank treads, and you are good.
Kabal of the Slit Throat ~2000pts
Elect of the Plaguefather 4500pts
