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I thought it'd be 18 - one for each Legion.

Also if anyone's keeping track, by my count we need the following to be collected in print somewhere:

Restorer by Chris Wraight
Blackshields - The False War by Josh Reynolds
Blackshields - The Red Fief by Josh Reynolds
Two Metaphysical Blades by Chris Wraight
Prologue to Nikaea by David Annadale

I think every other e-short, audio and novella has ended up in an anthology at least now.

Are there any plot-threads/story-arcs in the HH series that have been left unfinished?

 foostick wrote:
I thought it'd be 18 - one for each Legion.

That would miss out or relegate to side stories the Mechnicum/Custodies/SoS/Emperor/Black Shields/Malcador's mob, etc. who all have an important story to tell during the Siege and all have had their own books at some point. At the very least you'd see a Custodies and Mechnicum book, but I'm doubtful we'll see anywhere near that number of books.

I do hope all of the Primarchs get their own book in that series, but I'm starting to think that won't be happening.

You won’t get one for each legion. Some people dot really get involved in the siege.
And others span events that would take up more than one book I’d guess

Sorry - I was talking about all of the Primarchs getting a book in the...Primarch Book Series, not the Siege of Terra one.

Even if they do put a number on it I think they're incapable of sticking to it, and will also feel obliged to shovel out short stories, anthologies of short stories most of which you'll already own, audio dramas and novelisations of audio dramas

I would think that BL would open the new series with one of their strongest writers.

My opinion: they have not done that.

Or maybe they want to end it with their strongest?

Then again, starting off strong did not save the Beast series in my opinion.

They managed with the beast arises.

 schoon wrote:
I would think that BL would open the new series with one of their strongest writers.

My opinion: they have not done that.

I’ve got a lot of time for John French personally, especially after the fantastic Slaves to Darkness. They have started with one of their strongest, in my opinion.

I still want Sandy Mitchel to write a HH story

 Mysterio wrote:
Sorry - I was talking about all of the Primarchs getting a book in the...Primarch Book Series, not the Siege of Terra one.

No I meant in reply to Foostick anyway.
As in each legion won’t get a book in the SoT series.

 Mr Morden wrote:
I still want Sandy Mitchel to write a HH story

I don't.. thats time spent not writing Cain Stories!


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 Looky Likey wrote:

 foostick wrote:
I thought it'd be 18 - one for each Legion.

That would miss out or relegate to side stories the Mechnicum/Custodies/SoS/Emperor/Black Shields/Malcador's mob, etc. who all have an important story to tell during the Siege and all have had their own books at some point. At the very least you'd see a Custodies and Mechnicum book, but I'm doubtful we'll see anywhere near that number of books.

Maybe not re the Mechanium, I think their climax will be Titanfall


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Are there any plot-threads/story-arcs in the HH series that have been left unfinished?

a few but not all IMHO have to be finished by time of the Siege. presumably there will be a sundering novel series (Dorn's story Arc, and Gulliman's both almost demands it) Perpetuals seem to be the big hanging plot hook, but I've always suspected they are something thats going to be a suprise factor at the siege.

 Looky Likey wrote:

 foostick wrote:
I thought it'd be 18 - one for each Legion.

That would miss out or relegate to side stories the Mechnicum/Custodies/SoS/Emperor/Black Shields/Malcador's mob, etc. who all have an important story to tell during the Siege and all have had their own books at some point. At the very least you'd see a Custodies and Mechnicum book, but I'm doubtful we'll see anywhere near that number of books.

Sorry should have been clearer, I don't think there'll be 18 legion focused books, just I think that'll be the number we get and it pops with the number of legions there are. I think it'll likely be 12 - 15 novels and 3 - 6 anthologies of novellas, shorts and audios.

For me, I doubt the Mechanicum will get a story of their own, Custodes would likely be alongside the Emperor anyway as they don't do anything from Emperor's POV. Black Shields won't be there as they're not in any written form yet. SOS I think will fall in with Custodes and/or Malcador and the Knights Errant.

Thinking about it there could be:

- Imperial Fists book
- Blood Angels book
- Knights Errant book
- White Scars book
- Emperor book
- Other Loyalist book e.g. Imperial Guard, Mechanicum etc.
- Horus book
- World Eaters book
- Death Guard book
- Emperor's Children book
- Iron Warriors book
- Other traitors e.g. Thousand Sons, Dark Mechanicum etc.
- Finale trilogy

That takes you up to 15 for example and it's fairly stripped back considering what's preceded it.

Just have to wait for the weekender - I just hope they keep the cover styles consistent with the HH series for shelf continuity!

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Someone is going to win a LOT of books!

That is a hilarious competition. Someone will be overflowing with books.

I honestly wouldn't know what to do with that many new books- the book space at home is already full as it is!

Honestly if I was declared the winner of this I'd be tempted to ask them if they'd be willing to give me the books in ebook format and donate the hard copies to the local library I don't have space for all those books.

I find French's writing tedious at best. There are at least five or six other authors I'd rather see leadoff a Siege series. And Abnett is not on the list...I was not impressed by his start to the Beast series. Let's hope they manage the Siege project better than Beast, so we don't have three people repeating the same plot in a different novels again...

Just wrapped up Outer Dark, the second Space Shark novel and found it most enjoyable, even better than the first one, can't wait for the next one in the series.

Very unlike BL to do something like this. It’s physical copies so it’s probably not as much as you would think. BL books have limited runs and then move to ebooks. The competition rules state the prizes as ‘every physical book available through blacklibrary.com and currently in stock.’ Still there would be an awful amount of omnibuses!
I would rather it was every black library book that will be released for the next year as I have everything I want that’s on the site bar one or two books. A host of unknown books would be a different matter, I would be all over that.

 BrookM wrote:
Just wrapped up Outer Dark, the second Space Shark novel and found it most enjoyable, even better than the first one, can't wait for the next one in the series.

I'm currently on my second read through of it! Can't wait for the future books as well!

Kdash wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Just wrapped up Outer Dark, the second Space Shark novel and found it most enjoyable, even better than the first one, can't wait for the next one in the series.

I'm currently on my second read through of it! Can't wait for the future books as well!

That's good news, my paperback copy got delivered today. It's going to be read next after I finish Of Honour And Iron, which started off feeling like a "My first Ultramarines" novel, but is quickly getting better.

The Carcharodrons Astra are a nice departure from the standard space marine fare, at least none of the usual drama with normal chapters.

The characters are also pretty badass.

 BrookM wrote:
The Carcharodrons Astra are a nice departure from the standard space marine fare, at least none of the usual drama with normal chapters.

The characters are also pretty badass.

Spoiler:

Tyberos and the chief Librarian leaving the bridge to deal with Nid boarders on their own was hilarious, though as the Librarian noted, Tyberos did not need his assistance, he merely had the honour of witnessing his boss at work. "I am going to enter the xenos boarding monster now and kill it from the inside, BRB."

Khauri, despite being a Marine for less than a decade(?), being accepted straight away (none of the usual "YOU ARE TOO YOUNG" drama), asked to give advice whenever he felt like it to brothers centuries his senior and being a powerful psyker set on a path alone by his master, who probably knew what was awaiting him. Making the head explode of the big bad with a single touch of his finger was also pretty ace.

And Ancient Itako. Just this guy doing nothing but giving angry screams while laying into everything around him with his claws. But also being so ancient that nobody knew what squad he came from or what he was before he was interned. Though I'm sure the head librarian knows, he's perhaps the oldest of all amongst the chapter, only three generations removed from the original exiles(!).

After re-reading it, I can’t decide whether Itako is meant to be a Contemptor or a Leviathan (but that’s more me comparing existing models and options to what is written… )

I also love how the main focuses of the stories aren’t so much around Marines and their Bolters, but, instead, around their Librarians, an ex-Arbities, and to an extent, sacrifice.

All in all, I enjoy reading them, and I’d suggest reading the other short stories about the Carchardons as well.
The Reaping Time is set before Red Tithe;
Death Warrant is set between Red Tithe and Outer Dark (iirc)

The Judges, In Their Hunger is a bit random and I have no idea where it fits in or what it really offers though!

The Ancients are described as being Contemptors all when first introduced, but it is pretty clear that Itako is a Leviathan. It could be due to the Marines not knowing the difference and just thinking it's a different pattern of Ancient.

As for Death Warrant..



But bring on the next novel! We've got a pair of sequel hooks dangling in front of us now.

I agree on the sequels – but we also have to remember that Outer Dark is set before the Badab War as well, so who knows how the storylines will progress!
I do like the epilogue of Outer Dark though. You just know that everything that would have been said in the unwritten conversation, would have been highly skewed and bias and will lead us to an attempted reckoning in one way or another.

I liked the nod to Death Warrant, but, I also think it was a bit of a wasted character opportunity. Someone with her knowledge and skills could have provided a lot more to a Chapter on the fringes of the Imperium.

Onb the subject of novels I got around to reading Cadia stands and was suprised (pleasently) byt it. I went into the book expecting essentially just a novelization of Gathering Storm what instead I got was a novel detailing the events of cadia from differant prespectives giving us a view of the evacauation of Cadia etc, and "what happens to the people who DIDN'T end up following the Trimvirate into the gateway"

the novel wasn't bad, however IMHO it won't be a novel with "legs" because it kind of requires a familarity with the events of GS1 to fill in the holes IMHO.

in short not a bad novel as a supplement to GS1 but I felt that if you didn't know the general thrust of what was going on in GS1 you'd find some of the things there vague and confusing.

Kdash wrote:
I agree on the sequels – but we also have to remember that Outer Dark is set before the Badab War as well, so who knows how the storylines will progress!
I do like the epilogue of Outer Dark though. You just know that everything that would have been said in the unwritten conversation, would have been highly skewed and bias and will lead us to an attempted reckoning in one way or another.

I liked the nod to Death Warrant, but, I also think it was a bit of a wasted character opportunity. Someone with her knowledge and skills could have provided a lot more to a Chapter on the fringes of the Imperium.

It takes place before the Badab Wars?

Now that is something to look forward to!