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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/02/27 09:36:36
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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jojo_monkey_boy wrote:Scalpers intercept the regular retail chain of trade and increased scarcity of a product in order to inflate its value way beyond market normal. That's why during the pandemic governments were seriously looking at ways to make it illegal because scalpers were buying up large stocks of things and then commanding a premium because the whole retail chain was broken. Graphics cards, cleaning products, toilet roll etc....
Scalpers are also not raising prices to what the market will take but raising them to the extremes.
You're confusing things here. They are exploiting scarce goods and extreme demand to deliver great profit to themselves. The government stepped in during covid when this was over necessities. No one cares that people do this with luxury goods be cause no one needs a limited edition fiction novel or graphics cards like they do food and medical supplies. Comparing those two pools of goods is specious.
Furthermore all their profits and income are purely leached out of the retail chain - they aren't helping stores/distributor/shipping/manufacturer firms to produce more and serve the customer and profit; they are purely leaching money from that.
All of which is irrelevant because customers were served, the people who bought the goods to be resold. Why does someone deserve these books just because they want them on their shelf? What's even more laughable is that the people who desire them do so because of their limited nature and scarcity--they want the value of that, but then they're incensed that someone else also saw that value and got to it first and then attributed a dollar value to their limited nature. Lastly, and this is complete conjecture on my part, but do you think that were those people with sand in their knickers over not being able to easily complete their collection to sell the rest of their collections to someone else, that they would sell them for what they paid for? Of course not, they'd also sell them for an inflated price, thereby demonstrating the inate hypocrisy of all of this.
I'm sure the shoe would be on the other foot if scalpers decided to move in on GW product to the extent that they already do for sports tickets and big event tickets.
It's easy to back seat argue that its just consumerism and perfectly fine, until it hits your own wallet when someone, who isn't part of the chain of delivery of a product, simply buys out all the stock of a limited product (or buys out at a rate equal to the manufacturers output, thereby controlling the majority of stock) and raises the prices purely for profit.
Again scalping isn't part of the general consumer cycle, that's why it has its own terminology and why people identify it as something different to regular retail. And yes governments were looking at all scalping during the Pandemic, not just medical and essential supplies (which some governments already had laws on and used them - profiteering in the USA was used on several people who bought out all supplies of cleaning and sanitary goods).
Also consider this, scalping also hurts the regular chain of production as well.
If a person has £100 to spend on hobby purchases and a book costs £10. That person can purchase 10 books which means 10 rounds of income for the chain of supply from store to manufacture to author.
However if a scalper moves in and buys out all of the stock of 1 of those books and raises the price to £100 then the customer might only be able to purchase that 1 book. The store and the whole chain of manufacture to author gets 1 sale; the customer gets 1 product.
So its not just hurting the customer, its also hurting the industry as well. Because £90 or that £100 the customer spent is purely going to the scalper.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/02/27 10:59:31
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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I do think when we're talking about one book in three volumes, it's *really* bad to have demand exceed supply that badly. At least if you do that, sell it as a bundle of all three that get sent out as they become available. No fun "winning" the scramble for book one then failing for book two.
(This arguably applies to the entire Siege of Terra run as a whole, but it's even more acute here)
I was going to actually try and get the Limited Edition of the final book - I figure if you get one, that's the one to get. But not now it's "Book 10, Part 3".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/03 14:59:27
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Dakka Veteran
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I got my hardback of The End and the Death and it does indeed say "to be concluded" in part 2.
It's also 650 pages- the only way I can see it being three parts if they've literally just taken the second book and cut it in half, so the remaining parts will be 300-400 pages.
While they can change the text at the end, they can't change where the book ends, and if it was planned to be two parts, I can't imagine the second book being planned as more than 800 pages. You want to find a good break in the story but you also want to keep the sizes similar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/04 21:17:43
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Apparently, Graham McNeill will be on an episode of the podcast 'Roll off a tangent' in the near-ish future. He will discuss his story The last church but is open for questions from the general public, which the podcast's hosts accept via reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/11ia2dy/graham_mcneill_will_be_on_my_podcast/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 16:14:04
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Minka Lesk is getting a model. Kind of cool to have actually options that make two different looking versions, save for the base
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 16:59:44
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 17:31:01
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's by no means a bad model, but it seems a little bland overall, really.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 17:32:45
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Yes, but consider the following: GW finally has a Guards(wo)man character wielding a full size rifle. I wish she had a helmeted version, that said.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 17:34:29
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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She’s only a Lieutenant.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 17:34:41
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Emboldened Warlock
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I think it's a great model
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 17:52:11
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Bobthehero wrote:Yes, but consider the following: GW finally has a Guards(wo)man character wielding a full size rifle. I wish she had a helmeted version, that said.
Given that she has head options, it preseumably shouldn't be too difficult to swap in one from the regular guard sprues.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 18:07:20
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Right, I am going to need 4
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 18:11:55
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Terrifying Wraith
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Face is really messed up, looks very different to the character from the cover art. They've reworked faces between announcement and release on these before though so fingers crossed
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 18:45:36
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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...how flashy were you expecting a model of her to be, out of interest?
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 18:53:37
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dysartes wrote:
...how flashy were you expecting a model of her to be, out of interest?
I didn't say anything about expecting a model of her to be like that.
It's just a relatively bland character design to make a model out of, with it being pretty much the standard guardsman design.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 18:54:40
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The skull on the base confuses me. How exactly is it merged into stone?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 18:58:52
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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GaroRobe wrote:The skull on the base confuses him. How exactly is it merged into stone?
Either
1) The skull is behind the stone in front and thus the whole skull and helmet are sitting in a small recess.
2) The original owner of the skull had the misfortune to fight, and die, against something that was wielding a super sharp cutting edge that sliced a clean edged chunk off their skill and helmet. With all the power, edge, psy and bladed weapons around I'm sure there's more than a few that can make a neat clean cut through bone and standard Guard Issue Armour
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 19:20:28
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Overread wrote: GaroRobe wrote:The skull on the base confuses him. How exactly is it merged into stone?
Either
1) The skull is behind the stone in front and thus the whole skull and helmet are sitting in a small recess.
2) The original owner of the skull had the misfortune to fight, and die, against something that was wielding a super sharp cutting edge that sliced a clean edged chunk off their skill and helmet. With all the power, edge, psy and bladed weapons around I'm sure there's more than a few that can make a neat clean cut through bone and standard Guard Issue Armour
I think the base is supposed to represent not a single chunk of stone, but a pile of loose rubble that this skull is partially covered by, and is just not painted with that in mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 20:36:05
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Mentlegen324 wrote:
It's just a relatively bland character design to make a model out of, with it being pretty much the standard guardsman design.
Female Guardsman. Therefore model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 20:46:48
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Lord Damocles wrote: Mentlegen324 wrote:
It's just a relatively bland character design to make a model out of, with it being pretty much the standard guardsman design.
Female Guardsman. Therefore model.
Poster character of 3(soon to be 4) novels, 2 short stories, and featuring in another 3.
Therefore model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 20:49:24
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Kanluwen wrote: Lord Damocles wrote: Mentlegen324 wrote:
It's just a relatively bland character design to make a model out of, with it being pretty much the standard guardsman design.
Female Guardsman. Therefore model.
Poster character of 3(soon to be 4) novels, 2 short stories, and featuring in another 3.
Therefore model.
The new Cadian box contains female Guardspeople, so the argument falls flat anyway.
Guard protagonists tend to be popular and have received a lot of models, it's not a new development.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 21:09:16
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Heroic Senior Officer
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I am surprised Cain and Jurgen didn't get a release.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 21:21:32
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I have vague memories of them having metal models through Black Library, back in t'day - am I imagining that?
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 21:24:45
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Dysartes wrote:
I have vague memories of them having metal models through Black Library, back in t'day - am I imagining that?
There was a not-so-good model of Cain with a metal regimental standard way back when, i don't think it included Jurgen. It was a free-ish adaptation of the Artwork on the cover of one of the earliest books iirc.
Yep, this was it:
http://www.solegends.com/citle2000/blacklibrary/blciaphus/index.htm
Limited edition of 500, no Jurgen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 21:29:35
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Heroic Senior Officer
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I wasn't aware of that model, huh. But given that Gaunt and Raine got some models, I remain shocked Cain didn't get a release. Maybe with his next book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 21:30:38
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Bobthehero wrote:I wasn't aware of that model, huh. But given that Gaunt and Raine got some models, I remain shocked Cain does not have a permanent release.
I still hope for a Cain+Jurgen+his Valhallans Kill Team, it's the obvious place for them to be, half of the novels are basically Kill Team missions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 21:32:29
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Cain, Jurgen, Karsteen, Brocklaw, Vail, who else? Feels like it's kind of a top heavy kill team, just a bunch of officers out for a stroll.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 21:35:45
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Bobthehero wrote:Cain, Jurgen, Karsteen, Brocklaw, Vail, who else? Feels like it's kind of a top heavy kill team, just a bunch of officers out for a stroll.
Cain, Jurgen, trooper Magot, 'Jinxie' Penlan, that girl with the augmetic lungs, Lustig, one of either Brocklaw, Kasteen or Vail. There are a bunch of recurring lower-level people that regularly go on these missions with Cain and fit the 'dirty dozen' archetypes quite well.
The smart thing would of course be making it two kits, one for Killteam with Cain, Jurgen, one or two named side-characters from the books and some randos, and the other for 40k proper with 'generic' greatcoat troops/ Valhallans with build options for Kasteen and the other named characters like Sulla or Broklaw, with the kits of course being compatible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 21:52:55
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Chances are we'll see more Ghosts before we see Cain. We're due at least one more Ghost novella, perfect time to release another set including Milo and maybe some of the Verghast reinforcements, would be nice.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/08 22:12:37
Subject: Black Library News & Rumour thread
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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I think that could be said for a lot of the present stuff.
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