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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 19:45:18
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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I would love to see SoB release ahead of Orks and here is why - orks have an extensive plastic range while SoB do not and deserve to have it just as much as Orks.
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Bow down to Guilliman for he is our new God Emperor!
Martel - "Custodes are terrible in 8th. Good luck with them. They take all the problems of marines and multiply them."
"Lol, classic martel. 'I know it was strong enough to podium in the biggest tournament in the world but I refuse to acknowledge space marines are good because I can't win with them and it can't possibly be ME'."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 20:01:49
Subject: Re:If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Solahma
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Just a quick reminder that Rule Number One here is Be Polite. It's just toy soldiers, after all. Thanks! Automatically Appended Next Post: As to the topic:
I have been waiting for plastic Sisters for so long. And now that GW has demonstrated, with Celestine and the Geminae, that they can do absolutely beautiful plastic Sisters, I want them even more. So I would be ecstatic if the next dex was Adepta Sororitas.
That said, I'm not especially cross about a Custodes dex coming out (please see my avatar). I'd be pretty pissed about a Sisters of Silence dex, however.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 20:07:36
Subject: Re:If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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Eldarsif wrote:Almost like female models aren't all that popular?
Why then are third party manufacturers and other games making female models(I guess Raging Heroes is just a mirage)? Hell, even GW is getting on that boat with the latest lines. GW sees the changing tide while you remain oblivious to the evolution that is happening around you.
I think that one sentence I quoted kinda outed your agenda. You really do hate having women in your game don't you? Hate to break it to you, but we are already here and there are only going to be more of us as time passes.
Agenda, hating women.. Goodness it's like you are trying to build an excellent strawman but you need to do some more... You've managed to bring up several disingenuous statements about the state of female models in 40k thus far.
Seriously though.. SoB have a very loud fanbase, but I don't know how many translate to sales.
Though I'd be curious to see how many people come in just because "New Army Aesthetic" that isn't made of metal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 20:12:43
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Fixture of Dakka
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If a SoS codex comes out and not a SOB one, i'm going to raise hell to GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 20:13:45
Subject: Re:If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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ZebioLizard2 wrote:Agenda, hating women.. Goodness it's like you are trying to build an excellent strawman but you need to do some more... You've managed to bring up several disingenuous statements about the state of female models in 40k thus far.
Seriously though.. SoB have a very loud fanbase, but I don't know how many translate to sales.
Though I'd be curious to see how many people come in just because "New Army Aesthetic" that isn't made of metal.
Thanks for this. I feel like this is how it always goes with Sisters' fans. If you dare disagree that they aren't popular you clearly "hate women" or "hate seeing women in the game". What a load of rubbish.
@Manchu mod - I don't think it's polite for people to strawman others. Or is that OK? It doesn't matter if I just make up what people think because it suits my slowed rhetoric?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 20:19:12
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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Amishprn86 wrote:If a SoS codex comes out and not a SOB one, i'm going to raise hell to GW.
According to the Custodes information, they're not really planning on doing Sisters of Silence until after all the other armies are updated. Now if that means Sisters of Battle get a release or not is unsure because GW does seem to forget that they exist sometimes. Automatically Appended Next Post: An Actual Englishman wrote: ZebioLizard2 wrote:Agenda, hating women.. Goodness it's like you are trying to build an excellent strawman but you need to do some more... You've managed to bring up several disingenuous statements about the state of female models in 40k thus far.
Seriously though.. SoB have a very loud fanbase, but I don't know how many translate to sales.
Though I'd be curious to see how many people come in just because "New Army Aesthetic" that isn't made of metal.
Thanks for this. I feel like this is how it always goes with Sisters' fans. If you dare disagree that they aren't popular you clearly "hate women" or "hate seeing women in the game". What a load of rubbish.
@Manchu mod - I don't think it's polite for people to strawman others. Or is that OK? It doesn't matter if I just make up what people think because it suits my slowed rhetoric?
Please don't lump all Sisters players under a single banner of accusations and strawmanning. I definitely disagree with some of your claims about GW, but then again I'm more inclined to believe that the studio statements about not having the technology to do Sisters properly was a bigger factor than how well they sold in 2nd edition. Now obviously that has changed with how good the current model kits are, but I'd still argue that with a 3 or so lead time on any project, just because we're seeing that Sisters can be done in plastic doesn't mean anything. I mean Celestine being plastic may have just been testing how to approach the problem and make it work while the army model overhaul being something that was started later and may not even be ready.
That aside, the "why" really isn't that important anymore since any reasons we could present are contradicted by more niche factions seeing support in more recent years, and model quality reaching a level where highly detailed models that would be previously impossible for GW to produce exist now.
Even if you don't like the lore of Sisters I feel they add something to the game that no other faction currently does: an elite horde. 3+ saves on a large number of relatively weaker models is something you don't see as a faction focus for any other army, making Sisters the glass cannon army. They can dish out damage, but aren't great at tanking it due to needing to roll saves so much more often than other power armour factions. Speaking as someone who plays with them that means they don't play like Guard (less bodies, shorter range options), nor do they play like Marines (weaker in melee, tank less effectively) making them different to play against despite sharing statline qualities with both of those armies.
So for the sake of diversity on the table I'd argue that Sisters belong, not so we can have another Imperial army (albiet one you should see just about as often as Guard since every planet outside of the Chapter Homeworlds of most chapters, have at least some Sisters force on it that bolsters the PDF and fights with the Guard), but rather because it brings a playstyle that is different than any other army (the closest direct match is Dark Eldar who are faster and thus more fragile while Sisters are slower and rely on their better saves to allow them to get closer to the opponent in hopes of engaging them).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 20:32:41
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Hmmm I would mostly be shocked if SoB got a release.
I mean it was SoB sales that got inquisition canned and caused a decade delay in DW being released.
Squats had better sales figures than sisters and look how that turned out.
In fact we will likely see a Squat army before Sisters.
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Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 20:37:16
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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SeanDrake wrote:Hmmm I would mostly be shocked if SoB got a release.
I mean it was SoB sales that got inquisition canned and caused a decade delay in DW being released.
Squats had better sales figures than sisters and look how that turned out.
In fact we will likely see a Squat army before Sisters.
Inquisition was in third edition when plastics were becoming more common, but with an all metal core Sisters weren't going to be as attractive as a purchase. Heck, when I first started in third I was warned away from Sisters at my FLGS just because they're all metal. Basically, they weren't well received at the time because they were doubling down on a thing that wasn't exactly popular with players when compared to the easier to build plastic kits which were less likely to need pinning (unless they were plastic/metal hybrid kits) and wouldn't chip from being looked at too closely.
Squats had better sales than a lot of things but the studio admitted they basically had a knee jerk reaction to the fact that they couldn't make a goofy concept of biker Dwarves in space fit the more serious tone they were aiming for at the launch of 2nd edition. Basically writer's block killed the Squats while Sisters have been seeing fluff stuff since their launch, albeit very slowly, so there is definitely more ideas going on for where to take Sisters than where to take Squats.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 21:24:27
Subject: Re:If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Manchu wrote:Just a quick reminder that Rule Number One here is Be Polite. It's just toy soldiers, after all. Thanks!
Automatically Appended Next Post:
As to the topic:
I have been waiting for plastic Sisters for so long. And now that GW has demonstrated, with Celestine and the Geminae, that they can do absolutely beautiful plastic Sisters, I want them even more. So I would be ecstatic if the next dex was Adepta Sororitas.
That said, I'm not especially cross about a Custodes dex coming out (please see my avatar). I'd be pretty pissed about a Sisters of Silence dex, however.
I 100% agree with this. Celestine, Gemini, Greyfax, Verydian, it's like they know what to do but are caught up in committee with how to do the whole shebang.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 21:26:49
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Amishprn86 wrote:If a SoS codex comes out and not a SOB one, i'm going to raise hell to GW.
My reaction to SoS getting plastic figures is a matter of record. I guess I am just hoping SoS are in the Custodes dex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 21:36:52
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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According to the information we have from the Studio Open, SoS are not in the Custodes book. Now if this means the Studio is going to combine the Sisters factions to go with the fluff that some SoB orders are actually SoS orders masquerading as nuns, or that they're getting their own book later is unclear, but we have gotten very clear information that the Custodes are being released alone for their book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 21:37:45
Subject: Re:If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Solahma
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The traditional* explanation (excuse) is they are having trouble squaring cloth drapery with multipose arms. Over the years, I have come up with my own theory: GW want SoB fans to get the real "Faith" experience. Basically, when plastic SoB do arrive (the day after forever from now) we'll feel like it's a miracle. *"Traditional" seems like the correct term, given how long this has been the explanation (excuse). ClockworkZion wrote:go with the fluff that some SoB orders are actually SoS orders masquerading as nuns
Seriously f- f- f -f- feth that noise. My concern is, they put out a SoS dex and then conclude internally that SoB no longer have a place on the shelf because it will be too confusing to have SoS and SoB (despite the WH Store being, essentially, a kind of Space Marine Baskin Robbins).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 21:45:20
Subject: Re:If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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Manchu wrote:The traditional* explanation (excuse) is they are having trouble squaring cloth drapery with multipose arms.
Over the years, I have come up with my own theory: GW want SoB fans to get the real "Faith" experience. Basically, when plastic SoB do arrives (the day after forever from now) we'll feel like it's a miracle.
*"Traditional" seems like the correct term, given how long this has been the explanation (excuse).
ClockworkZion wrote:go with the fluff that some SoB orders are actually SoS orders masquerading as nuns
Seriously f- f- f -f- feth that noise.
SoS where basically banned from Terra during the whole Beast saga and nearly wiped out, the splintered remains survived in hiding until M36 where they hid themselves under the Sisters (since they're women in power armour hunting witches and some SoB orders have taken vows of silence this is actually legitimately clever), while others worked under the Inquisition. Recently they were being brought back to Terra secretly by the Custodes, and the High Lords of Terra finally took a stick out of their backside (likely due to Guilliman) and rescinded their decree that the SoS where not allowed to return to Terra, basically justifying the Custodes' actions.
Basically they got the "they've always been there in the background, even if the faction was considered dead and lost a long time ago!" treatment so GW could justify bringing them into the present. Where this will take them is basically unknown but let's be honest, blending SoS and SoB basically creates a force that compliments the other half's short comings (good melee, and dedicated firepower to deal with hordes and tanks), so I'm not ruling it out as a possible cop out by GW for them to not have to invent new forces for both factions that don't step on each other's toes.
All we've heard so far from the Studio is that "Sisters" weren't likely to see a release until sometime after the other codexes were done. This is likely SoS, but known GW they could be being cheeky and meaning both factions of Sisters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 21:52:21
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Solahma
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FIRM FIRM FIRM "no thanks" to the absurd notion of combining Sisters of Silence with Adepta Sororitas. No one would ever think it made sense to lump Custodes in the Vanilla Astartes book. Just because both factions are girls in armor - that's a maddeningly stupid rationale, especially - again - given that at any given time there are 5-6 distinct astartes books.
Another fear of mine: plastic Sisters come out as part of another freakshow "Witch Hunters" dex (featuring, you guessed it, Sisters of Silence). Note that currently Sisters of Silence have their own faction page on GW's online store whereas Sororitas are filed under "Adeptus Ministorum." Very unsettling development.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 21:57:40
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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I really would prefer Adeptus Ministorum codex over Adeptus Sororitas codex, providing there were decent amount of choice to make pure Sisters army if one so desired.
There could be all sorts of cool war altars, flagellants and space cardinals with huge silly hats.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 22:01:00
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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If Chapter Approved is any indication the faction will be Sororitas, not Ministorum. The Ministorum stuff may be included in the Sisters dex as auxiliaries you can take without breaking faction benefits like Fallen in the CSM codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 22:02:13
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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Manchu wrote:FIRM FIRM FIRM "no thanks" to the absurd notion of combining Sisters of Silence with Adepta Sororitas. No one would ever think it made sense to lump Custodes in the Vanilla Astartes book. Just because both factions are girls in armor - that's a maddeningly stupid rationale, especially - again - given that at any given time there are 5-6 distinct astartes books.
Another fear of mine: plastic Sisters come out as part of another freakshow "Witch Hunters" dex (featuring, you guessed it, Sisters of Silence). Note that currently Sisters of Silence have their own faction page on GW's online store whereas Sororitas are filed under "Adeptus Ministorum." Very unsettling development.
Oh I agree, that mashing them together would be fairly silly, I'm just saying I wouldn't put it past GW.
Crimson wrote:I really would prefer Adeptus Ministorum codex over Adeptus Sororitas codex, providing there were decent amount of choice to make pure Sisters army if one so desired.
There could be all sorts of cool war altars, flagellants and space cardinals with huge silly hats.
"Adeptus Ministorum" will likely be how they label the Sisters going forward to prevent codex confusion I'd bet. Basically it'd be like Dark Eldar where it's two subfactions in a single book, one of which would be the more cultist/penitent units with priests, arco-flagellants, penitent engines, cult assassins, and crusaders while the other army would be the Sororitas proper.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 22:09:14
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Manchu wrote:FIRM FIRM FIRM "no thanks" to the absurd notion of combining Sisters of Silence with Adepta Sororitas. No one would ever think it made sense to lump Custodes in the Vanilla Astartes book. Just because both factions are girls in armor - that's a maddeningly stupid rationale, especially - again - given that at any given time there are 5-6 distinct astartes books.
Another fear of mine: plastic Sisters come out as part of another freakshow "Witch Hunters" dex (featuring, you guessed it, Sisters of Silence). Note that currently Sisters of Silence have their own faction page on GW's online store whereas Sororitas are filed under "Adeptus Ministorum." Very unsettling development.
Thanks. Somebody that at last answer that nonsense idea about combining then both just because they are Sisters. Is just so... urgh. (And yes, I like for chaos legions and space marine chapters to have their own codex), but the idea of mixing SoS and SoB is even worse because you aren't talking about different Sororitas Orders having different Codex. SoS and SoB have 0 to do from gameplay and background.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 22:10:43
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Or Sororitas pauper? GW shouldn't let non- SoB action items eat into the SoB budget. It's bad enough that Sisters of Silence have plastic models already. I mean, I'm all for new arco-flaggelants. Down the line. After plastic Soroitas and some new plastic Sororitas units to round them out as an army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 22:14:11
Subject: Re:If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Stealthy Sanctus Slipping in His Blade
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"Over the years, I have come up with my own theory: GW want SoB fans to get the real "Faith" experience. Basically, when plastic SoB do arrives (the day after forever from now) we'll feel like it's a miracle."
I have said this a hundred times.
The supposed SoB fan base that will "plastic SoB so hard" are constantly demonstrating their lack of true faith and devotion. While the SoB player base allows this to continue, and while they themselves fall prey to this weakness, they will be forced to endure yet another year in pewter penence. There is only one way forward, to embrace the perfection that is a seamlessly converted pewter Sister, embrace that in their creation the Sisters of Battle were given all that they would ever need to Purge the Alien, Kill the Mutant, and Burn the Heretic! The Emperor protects!
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A ton of armies and a terrain habit...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 22:14:26
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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Manchu wrote:Or Sororitas pauper? GW shouldn't let non- SoB action items eat into the SoB budget. It's bad enough that Sisters of Silence have plastic models already. I'm mean, I'm all for new arco-flaggelants. Down the line. After plastic Soroitas and some new plastic Sororitas units to round them out as an army.
Oh I didn't mean all at once but rather but as an eventual release. Perhaps in two parts like they did with the Mechanicus, only don't make it two different books.
Nicking this from 1d4chan since it's a decent summary of the lore for SoS so far:
They refused to recognize the Imperium in its political form as of M32, seeing it as a corrupted simulacrum of what the Emperor actually intended, but they still acknowledge the Emperor as the focus of their loyalty. Thus, when their services are required again in the War of The Beast, they accept the calling and return to Terra, where they are granted an audience with the Emperor in his sanctum on the throne, a privilege that not even the High Lords are afforded. Just how exactly that would've worked is a mystery, given how the Emperor can presumably only communicate psychically at this point, which probably wouldn't work at all on a group of nulls. The Beast Arises series ends with the Sisters of Silence being wiped out while killing the Beast, meaning that (if we are interpreting correctly the hints of some supplements) it is possible the Order was reformed with entirely new members and possibly entirely new beliefs and/or traditions.
The Gathering Storm, book 3, indicates that the Sisters of Silence were officially disbanded upon the conclusion of the Age of Apostasy in M36 (perhaps coinciding with the formation of the Sororitas) but continued to exist through secretive enclaves throughout the Imperium right up to M41. Hidden away with several orders being scattered through the stars concealed in "Convents" that made them looks like Sisters of Battle to outside observers, even taking upon themselves the role of Witch-Seeker without any official sanction to do so. Some were also maintained on the Black Ships whilst others were recruited by Inquisitors who knew their value, but for all intents and purposes they did not exist as an organisation; this conveniently explains how the Sisterhood being "wiped out" on Ullanor/Armageddon during the War for the Beast wouldn't have rendered them completely extinct, since they had always been there in one form or another.
Basically, as of Gathering Storm 3, the two Sisters armies are no longer completely disconnected, hence my concern of a roll up for the sake of laziness instead of approaching it more like how Marines and Grey Knights were approached: generalists versus specialists given seperate books despite similar stats and wargear.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 22:16:53
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Combining SoS with Adeptus Sororitas in Codex: Girls makes me feel physically ill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 22:25:10
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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Manchu wrote:Combining SoS with Adeptus Sororitas in Codex: Girls makes me feel physically ill.
If you get ill enough I hear you turn into a Plague Marine.
Seriously though, I wouldn't exactly be excited by it either. Sisters of Silence are pretty anti-religious and hold the Emperor as their only true leader, making them fall lockstep with the Sororitas under the church would be pretty painful on the whiplash scale.
I'm not sure how they're going to flesh out the SoS going forward, but since the organization now has little it has to share with the Heresy one (due to being mostly dead twice) they could go a lot of different directions.
Basically I hope they basically are the "anti-Sisters" in approach. Instead of a focus on melta and flamers perhaps they focus on plasma and grav to punch through the armour of traitor Marines. Instead of faith abilities they rely on static aura bonuses Marine style. Instead of being a short ranged shooting army, make them a hybrid of long range shooting and strong melee.
In otherwords, let them be everything the Sisters of Battle aren't. This will ensure the flavors of the two armies are distinct and that the way they build aren't just copy pastas of each other.
Plus, for the nutters who want to mix the two armies (say to represent one of those SoS style convents) they don't just have a bunch of redundant choices.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 22:32:45
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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From a lore standpoint I can get why you guys are saying the two being combined is absolutely terrible.
However on the table? Mini rules and such..I feel like it would actually mesh pretty well. Especially if the FW stuff gets brought over for them too. (Dual pistol girls might not be the strongest thing ever but damn do the models look good)
But squads who can shut down psykers from harming Sisters just sort of boosts their potential. Adding to that, groups of melee combatants that have an actual save but a weaker sword sound useful as well.
Perhaps a bit of redundancy in loadout options depending on what you take, but it's something different without having to rely on Inquisition units. If they aren't being squished together with them then other female power armor units would still look nice on the table.
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Sisters and Wolves 4000
~4000 points of Skaven
~2000 Kaptain Gitklaw's Grots
~2400 Kharadron Overlords
4x Imperial Knights
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 22:35:34
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Solahma
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Hey at least they have their own dex and an entire plastic army. I see where you are coming from but I also see some problems with this. Generally, focusing on making the Null Maidens "what Sororitas aren't" is another way of saying "narrowing down what Sororitas can be." If you have SoS charging in with huge swords, where does that leave Repentia? The way I see it, Sororitas should be the first priority and Sisters of Silence can have whatever's left over.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 22:36:09
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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mmzero252 wrote:From a lore standpoint I can get why you guys are saying the two being combined is absolutely terrible.
However on the table? Mini rules and such..I feel like it would actually mesh pretty well. Especially if the FW stuff gets brought over for them too. (Dual pistol girls might not be the strongest thing ever but damn do the models look good)
But squads who can shut down psykers from harming Sisters just sort of boosts their potential. Adding to that, groups of melee combatants that have an actual save but a weaker sword sound useful as well.
Perhaps a bit of redundancy in loadout options depending on what you take, but it's something different without having to rely on Inquisition units. If they aren't being squished together with them then other female power armor units would still look nice on the table.
On the table they definitely would blend beautifully (especially if you're building some kind of Ordo Hereticus Witch Hunter force) but lore wise it's a mess I'm afraid won't be handled well.
Then again in a game with Primaris Marines and Primarchs now, who knows what'll happen?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 23:08:09
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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Manchu wrote:Or Sororitas pauper? GW shouldn't let non- SoB action items eat into the SoB budget. It's bad enough that Sisters of Silence have plastic models already. I mean, I'm all for new arco-flaggelants. Down the line. After plastic Soroitas and some new plastic Sororitas units to round them out as an army.
Arco-flagellants would be a fairly easy dual-kit with repentia if they didn't want to do repentia with two different weapon options.
That or DCA, if the will were there. Share the torsos and just include two sets of heads and arms.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 23:16:24
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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the_scotsman wrote:
Arco-flagellants would be a fairly easy dual-kit with repentia if they didn't want to do repentia with two different weapon options.
That or DCA, if the will were there. Share the torsos and just include two sets of heads and arms.
No, not really.
But this is the second weapon option for the Repentia and also how they should look overall. That nakedness thing is just embarrassing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 23:21:52
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Dakka Veteran
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No but seriously...can we get Repentia with dual hand flamer options, GW?
That image is great and they would be scary. (Also I realize they are bolt pistols, but that looks like fire and not smoke. Or maybe they ARE supposed to be hand flamers and the artist doesn't know they don't look like that)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 23:27:14
Subject: If Sisters of Battle are next codex after Custodes then Thousand Sons how would you feel?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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They're bolt pistols, but hand flamers would be cool too.
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