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So...in other words, another broken codex incoming? Great...

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
So...in other words, another broken codex incoming? Great...

Not that Marine players should care because we have Roboute! That makes up for a crap codex.

Well at least if it continues this way I can just bust out my Necrons from storage I got somewhere...

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
So...in other words, another broken codex incoming? Great...

Gotta sell them Riptides.

 General Kroll wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
So...in other words, another broken codex incoming? Great...

Gotta sell them Riptides.

Obviously they made Riptides suck in the index so that everyone would throw theirs away in disgust, only to buff them up again in the codex so they'd have to buy new ones! What a nefarious plan that is.

Or rather since riptides werent' selling likely that much shuffle up meta so that the new players buy now them rather than crisis suits.

GW marketing policy is more for new players so 8 months is plenty for them to shuffle up balance.

Or even more simply. GW randomly shuffling balance as they do. Balanced, unbalanced. Irrelevant as long as it's meta isn't same as it was before.

As long as they buff monoliths to being god tier tanks like they were originally I'm happy.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
So...in other words, another broken codex incoming? Great...

Not that Marine players should care because we have Roboute! That makes up for a crap codex.

Well at least if it continues this way I can just bust out my Necrons from storage I got somewhere...

Ain't that the truth. While I own Rowboat, I will never field him. I know there are plenty of fluff reasons to include him in a Crimson Fists or Blood Angels army, but I never will do that. I prefer to play my actual army (I only play mono-codex unless I am including an Imperial Knight). Maybe that would be a less bitter pill to swallow if my Crimson Fists didn't have a Chapter Tactic that was avoidable because it is 100% dependent on my opponent's army to function.

I love that the salt has transitioned from "EHMAHGERD TAUDAR OP" to "I'm just a Space Marine and nobody loves me."

It pleases me.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
So...in other words, another broken codex incoming? Great...

Not that Marine players should care because we have Roboute! That makes up for a crap codex.

Well at least if it continues this way I can just bust out my Necrons from storage I got somewhere...

Ain't that the truth. While I own Rowboat, I will never field him. I know there are plenty of fluff reasons to include him in a Crimson Fists or Blood Angels army, but I never will do that. I prefer to play my actual army (I only play mono-codex unless I am including an Imperial Knight). Maybe that would be a less bitter pill to swallow if my Crimson Fists didn't have a Chapter Tactic that was avoidable because it is 100% dependent on my opponent's army to function.

I have to ask, if you plan was never to use him, why did you buy him?

For his collection? Because he wanted the Grey Knight and/or the Dark Angel in the kit? I own several models that I have no intention of ever using.

What I wouldn't give to field my riptide without the cloud of guilt over my head...

 EnTyme wrote:
For his collection? Because he wanted the Grey Knight and/or the Dark Angel in the kit? I own several models that I have no intention of ever using.

Yes and yes. Sometimes I like to buy models because they are cool. Just like a ton of my Crimson Fists models.

Some tau codex leaks over on ATT

 hippyjr wrote:
Tau codex leaks over on ATT

Repost them?

Will do, but they're scattered over a long- thread, so it will come in bits

So far, a few negatives:
1 commander per detachment
No changes to the markerlight table
No improvement to BS across the board
Railguns are the same

But the guy says there are far more positives to talk about - will post as I find them

Some vague mentions of point drops and profile changes:
"The upsides will come from massive point drops on base costs and weaponry, and massive buff to weapons characteristics. Sometimes both, which can make for some crazy stuff. Like a Heavy 18 S6 -1 2dmg gun for 35 points"

Oh I can get behind 1 Commander per Detachment. Doesn't affect my listbuilding.

No more leaks after those, something about attracting too much attention, the leakers community finding out and getting in some sort of

http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2018/02/tau-rumors.html?m=1

edit: also, saviour protocols is only on a 2+ now

The Commander limit is not going to affect much of anything. People seem to always run two or three Detachments anyway.

 hippyjr wrote:
No more leaks after those, something about attracting too much attention, the leakers community finding out and getting in some sort of

http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2018/02/tau-rumors.html?m=1

edit: also, saviour protocols is only on a 2+ now

Please just copy/paste from that cesspool. Thanks.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
The Commander limit is not going to affect much of anything. People seem to always run two or three Detachments anyway.

Well, at least that would mean a max of 3 Commanders (since 2000 p allows for a max of 3 detachments) instead of what, 9 Commanders?

I swear if there are more 2 damage weapons released without SM termie/primaris points dropping in half I don't know what I'm going to do...

And if a damned assault cannon heavy 12 -1 1dmg got a price bump up to 44 vs a heavy 18 -1 2dmg for 35 points...it better be on a damned 6+ bs model.

Anyone want to army swap? Got over 10k of marines I've painstakingly painted, modified over the last 20 years which GW seems hellbent on me never playing a competitive game with

 Kanluwen wrote:

 hippyjr wrote:
No more leaks after those, something about attracting too much attention, the leakers community finding out and getting in some sort of

http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2018/02/tau-rumors.html?m=1

edit: also, saviour protocols is only on a 2+ now

Please just copy/paste from that cesspool. Thanks.

The article doesn't add anything I haven't already said, aside from earlier in this thread where the source recommended that people invest in riptides (either main gun) and ion cannon hammerheads, due to increased firepower and good stratagems. I just linked it to put everything in one spot.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
The Commander limit is not going to affect much of anything. People seem to always run two or three Detachments anyway.

Given that the typical current competitive Tau list is running 8 or 9 Commanders, the Commander limit is gonna change quite a bit. At most, you can have 3 Commanders in an army now, so yeah if this is accurate Commander Spam is dead. Fortunately, from what Haechi was saying before they got busted Tau are gonna be getting plenty of new toys to compensate for losing Commander Spam.

Good riddance! to commander-spam. Give me actual list building variety GW!

A playable piranha! My kingdom for a playable piranha!

a big points drop for standard suits would melt my heart

 hippyjr wrote:
"The upsides will come from massive point drops on base costs and weaponry, and massive buff to weapons characteristics. Sometimes both, which can make for some crazy stuff. Like a Heavy 18 S6 -1 2dmg gun for 35 points"

Do I smell Vettock's Tau trying to outdo Kelly's Dark Reapers?

It's especially funny in the light of the Assault Cannon nerf and the fact Dark Reaper gun has several ideas that could be cribbed to make SM missile launcher something more than gak version of lascannon. Alas, it seems for last 3 editions the only armies that get any love are the pet projects of certain trio...

bananathug wrote:
I swear if there are more 2 damage weapons released without SM termie/primaris points dropping in half I don't know what I'm going to do...

Yeah, I can see both of the above being unintentionally nerfed by advent of the overload plasma but it's almost a year later now and the GW writers still slap 2D on stuff that is in no way more damaging than bolters or grenade launchers in fluff. Do they actually hate Primaris or still don't have a clue 10 months later despite Termie/Primaris problems being repeated ad nauseum?

I really like the look of more elite factions, such as Primaris, Grey Knights termies, Sanguinary Guard, bikes and Nob ork armies but at this rate with spammable 2D in literally every army all of these will be utterly worthless and disappear...

I thought drukari were next, it would be odd if someone got a codex more than a month before it's street date.

 Grimgold wrote:
I thought drukari were next, it would be odd if someone got a codex more than a month before it's street date.

The claim, from what I can tell, is that playtesters receive their complimentary copies early.

 Stormonu wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
So...in other words, another broken codex incoming? Great...

Not that Marine players should care because we have Roboute! That makes up for a crap codex.

Well at least if it continues this way I can just bust out my Necrons from storage I got somewhere...

Ain't that the truth. While I own Rowboat, I will never field him. I know there are plenty of fluff reasons to include him in a Crimson Fists or Blood Angels army, but I never will do that. I prefer to play my actual army (I only play mono-codex unless I am including an Imperial Knight). Maybe that would be a less bitter pill to swallow if my Crimson Fists didn't have a Chapter Tactic that was avoidable because it is 100% dependent on my opponent's army to function.

I have to ask, if you plan was never to use him, why did you buy him?

I mean the model looks pretty good with a helmet.

That seems Suspicious, why would he need his book to leak, when he had the playtest data. Also early usually isn't a month early, there is no way they could keep the contents a secret that long, just him showing it off to F&F would eventually spring some major leaks. It would be at most two weeks early, during the hype making phase where leaks won't take the piss out of the warhammer community announcements. I think you guys are getting your chains jerked.