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ecurtz wrote:
If there are 5 marines why isn't it 1-5 players if co-op or 2-6 if one player is the Necrons?

Many co-op board games are listed as two or more players even though you can play alone. Most of the time when playing alone you would take control of two or more characters, so, even though you are the only person playing, you are still acting as two or more players.

The marine in the box is Savastas, which is the blue guy on the board, so I guess they are showing us sprue and assembled for him. I don't think the necron figurines are part of that box, it looks like the game uses tokens for the Crons. I guess The necron minis are there for SnG, because the token colors match the card colors. Tile based with five boards of tiles. At a guess it's in the 50 buck range.

So, yeah looks like a cheaper version of lost patrol mixed with DW:OK.

You're saying the full game will use tokens for the adversaries?

Yikes...

That's what it looks like, as I said near the beginning I was skeptical that the immortals shown came in the box, because those immortals have two alternate options they can be built in (tesla and deathmark), and that seemed needlessly complex for a game of this style. I was hoping we would get new sprues, but instead it looks like they are giving us tokens. Not that you can't use your models if you have them.

I think the idea is to make the base game as cheap as possible, with probably most of the budget tied up in the tiles. Then they can add onto it with additional heroes, new tiles and new enemies.

Hmm. I wonder if there's a connection between this game and the Blitz Bowl game? A series of cheaper games to draw new players into the 'Games Workshop Hobby' and then onto games like Warhamer 40,000 and Blood Bowl and maybe some of the other games as well?

Maybe GW have a couple people working on more child friendly games aimed at the board game market or toy stores? Like it's a new initiative for sales parallel to their normal market?

 Chamberlain wrote:
Maybe GW have a couple people working on more child friendly games aimed at the board game market or toy stores? Like it's a new initiative for sales parallel to their normal market?

I think this is correct. With the younger age rating and coloured push fit plastic this and blitzbowl are products that are not really aimed at anyone who uses this forum.
Battle for vedros has not had a single mention on the community site. I wonder if these products will be more like that. Hence the lack of a community site article despite them being shown off publicly last weekend.

Chikout wrote:
Battle for vedros has not had a single mention on the community site.

GW hasn't posted on the Battle for Vedros Facebook page since early last May, so I think its safe to say that it's a dead product line.

You know, part of me hopes that in terms of game mechanics, this is actually fun to play.

I can toss out the models included and buy my own. While I could easily go and get Space Hulk, I still want a good 40k 'Space Marine' game. I did not enjoy Deathwatch: Overkill.

 Grimgold wrote:
That's what it looks like, as I said near the beginning I was skeptical that the immortals shown came in the box, because those immortals have two alternate options they can be built in (tesla and deathmark), and that seemed needlessly complex for a game of this style. I was hoping we would get new sprues, but instead it looks like they are giving us tokens. Not that you can't use your models if you have them.

I think the idea is to make the base game as cheap as possible, with probably most of the budget tied up in the tiles. Then they can add onto it with additional heroes, new tiles and new enemies.

It seems strange that they'd be showing the Necrons if the models weren't part of the game. Then again, those are some sketchy paint jobs and the Marines are in colored plastic. I hope this is just a concept photo and not meant for distribution.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
You know, part of me hopes that in terms of game mechanics, this is actually fun to play.

I can toss out the models included and buy my own. While I could easily go and get Space Hulk, I still want a good 40k 'Space Marine' game. I did not enjoy Deathwatch: Overkill.

Assassinorium is still fun (if easy with base rules) to our group, so a new similar one should be interesting enough.

Wow really cute game, too bad the enemies will be tokens.

 Manchu wrote:
Wow really cute game, too bad the enemies will be tokens.

Are we absolutely sure about that though? It could just be that their are blip tokens which are on the board until the marines enter visual range and then the baddies are shown with models.

It doesnt even look like the necrons would fit in the box to me.

It would seem odd to me that GW would set up a promo display with Necron models if they are just going to be tokens in game. But then looking at the sprue layout of the Necron kits it is hard to see how anything other than the Overlord would fit in the box. They could be placeholders for new Necron kits that GW doesn't want to show off yet. But they would have to be part of another Necron release as I cant see GW sculpting new kits just for a small game like this.

Well given how precious that box is, I'd be tempted to buy up some crons to use with it. So marketing startegy works?

Whoa!

Love it so far, just for looking so much like Space Crusade.

sorry to say but i will miss this box...only the Marines in the box with Counters for Necrons and that for such a price ? No Way. You see all items from the box in that one picture and there are the Necron counters on the right side. 5 Marines (Ultramarines Sgt, Salamanders Flame Thrower, Imperial Fist Heavy Bolter, Blood Angels Tactical (with Auspex maybe Lt. ?), Space Wolf with Bolter.

I very much doubt the Necron models would be tokens - that would hurt GW's image by having paper chits instead of models.

I could see it having "blips", as the tiles look very Space Hulkish as it is with 1-square wide corridors. Does make me wonder if it will be compatible with Space Hulk...

I'd certainly like a boardgame-like game, but I don't know, I've got enough models from both factions and my fear is the rules are of the sort that they were written on a napkin, like so many in the past. This just feels...like the same sort of releases like Kerunch and Lost Patrol.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
It would seem odd to me that GW would set up a promo display with Necron models if they are just going to be tokens in game. But then looking at the sprue layout of the Necron kits it is hard to see how anything other than the Overlord would fit in the box. They could be placeholders for new Necron kits that GW doesn't want to show off yet. But they would have to be part of another Necron release as I cant see GW sculpting new kits just for a small game like this.

Maybe new E2B Immortals? I would be all over that...

And if you look close to the cards of the marines and compare them to the heroes that are released to Japan you see that they are those miniatures but made in a different colour so it fits the game (Made in England ;-) )...so its a clever recyling and you get 5 of the Marines that you normally get out of the Heroes Box that is only available in Japan...

Maybe we get a second game for the other 5 Marines :-))

Looks very interesting

Regarding the tokens, have you ever played Space Crusade? This has no correlation to wether there are Necron models in the game. Chances are very high there will be anyway of course. This is a Games Workshop product. And like with Gangs of Commoragh they seem to include already available models, allowing the game to be priced more moderately.

I'm very interested in the gameplay and mechanics. We still play Space Crusade occassionaly. Modernized mechanics would be good. Can't wait to read some reviews.

 ShortyPreds wrote:
sorry to say but i will miss this box...only the Marines in the box with Counters for Necrons and that for such a price ?

Are you a Time Lord, to be posting from the future? No price has been announced yet (or even an official announcement that it's even coming out. )

My understanding is that this is the only way GW can release the exclusive Japanese Space Marine Heroes outside of Japan.

There was a bit of an outcry that the minis could only be bought from Japan and GW wanted the rest of the world to be able to buy them but the terms of the deal meant they had to be re-boxed and sold as part of a game (no idea why but that's the rumour I heard).

So effectively this a way to buy the Space Marine Heroes minis and you get a free game chucked in... This also suggests there will be a second game to complete the set?

I assume that the Necrons aren't controlled by a player - so you can play solo just by controlling all the Marines. Same with Execution Force and plenty of other board games.

That could also be a reason for why the Necrons are represented by counters (if that is indeed the case); to visually distinguish the players' pieces from the rest of the game.

Isn't the series made up of twelve or so miniatures though?

But yeah, I can see them do more of these self-contained games involving a band of power armoured snowflakes in unique settings like the Space Hulk of the Orks, Temple of the Chaos Cultists, Webway of the Eldar or Sphincter of the Hive Mind.

Given that the game is Space Marine Adventures: Labyrinth of the Necrons, I bet there's at least one more in the series planned.

I wonder how well these tiles will go alongside the ones from Necromunda?

They should have no Problems because of the brand "Space Marine Adventures" to bring more short games like this one...like you said still missing the rest of the Japan Collect Marines...and dont forget they are ready for Wave 2 in Japan ;-)...so maybe we will see a Terminator in a future Adventure.

 BrookM wrote:
Isn't the series made up of twelve or so miniatures though?

Thirteen, even, Japan also did promo Captain in Mk8 power armour, who is so far literally the only SM officer (barring Artemis in modified Mk8) having one. So, yeah...

I miss the days of HeroQuest. Maybe this is a toe-dip in the waters to see if people would play a 40k version of say Silver Tower?

Saying that I really need to pick up Silver Tower.