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 Tokhuah wrote:
Personally I do not care as I would never play sisters due to philosophical differences.

Huh? I guess you don't play Orks or Tyranids, then.

pismakron wrote:

 Tokhuah wrote:
Personally I do not care as I would never play sisters due to philosophical differences.

Huh? I guess you don't play Orks or Tyranids, then.

Or any faction in 40k. There's no "good" faction. Chaos is an insane totalitarian dictatorship where only power matters, and everyone who isn't the most powerful is a sniveling servant to those who are. The Tau are a self-righteous racist dictatorship who care only for the dominance of the Tau race and the submission of everyone else to them. The Imperium is a massively dysfunctional dictatorial bureaucracy that makes life miserable for most people in it. The Eldar are a combination of sexually repressed religious extremists constantly in fear of their own soul, and hedonistic murderous donkey-caves who torture people to make their souls more palatable, so their own souls aren't taken. Tyranids nom nom nom. Necrons have absolutely no concern for the lives of non-Necrons. Orks just want a good fight and don't care about anything else.

And so on and so forth.

 Melissia wrote:

pismakron wrote:

 Tokhuah wrote:
Personally I do not care as I would never play sisters due to philosophical differences.

Huh? I guess you don't play Orks or Tyranids, then.

Or any faction in 40k. There's no "good" faction. Chaos is an insane totalitarian dictatorship where only power matters, and everyone who isn't the most powerful is a sniveling servant to those who are. The Tau are a self-righteous racist dictatorship who care only for the dominance of the Tau race and the submission of everyone else to them. The Imperium is a massively dysfunctional dictatorial bureaucracy that makes life miserable for most people in it. The Eldar are a combination of sexually repressed religious extremists constantly in fear of their own soul, and hedonistic murderous donkey-caves who torture people to make their souls more palatable, so their own souls aren't taken. Tyranids nom nom nom. Necrons have absolutely no concern for the lives of non-Necrons. Orks just want a good fight and don't care about anything else.

And so on and so forth.

Yeah I agree. If you want good guys, there is always LOTR I guess.

I wonder why they are pushing back the sisters release to 2019 though. I was certain that they'd be here this year.

The "luxury" of them being plastic is not a reduction in cost, really. It's the "luxury" of not being mono-pose, plus easy to assemble, easier to convert, and actually available. I hate resin as it is almost always far too breakable (and worlds worse to try to fix) compared to plastic, especially GW's resin.

Hopefully the Canoness Veridyan model and Celestine are "previews" of what's to come. I've got a whole bunch of metal Sisters plus vehicles I never worked on because I knew my painting skill wasn't up to the task, I'd love some new ones to add to them. There isn't anything wrong with the style of Sister's Power Armor, I really hope they don't change it.

The GW store managers and regional managers I used to chat with back in 2003-2005 stated categorically that Sisters of Battle were very poor selling models. That was when they had access to all the models that existed in the late 2nd ed. Codex and early 3rd.

Times may be different now, but the fact is they didn't sell very well back then. That put the nail in the coffin pretty early. Maybe now is the first time GW thinks they can justify the sales numbers. Who knows.

AdmiralHalsey wrote:
There will be new Sisters Beta Test rules in Chapter Approved.

That wasn't mentioned in the Warhammer Community article!

dosiere wrote:
Primaris sisters!

Yeah, no doubt, They will find some way to squat their own Joan of Arc.



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pismakron wrote:

 Tokhuah wrote:
Personally I do not care as I would never play sisters due to philosophical differences.

Huh? I guess you don't play Orks or Tyranids, then.

Taudar?

 Dysartes wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
For all the fanfare, if they make them, I wonder how they'll sell.

Probably pennies compared to the Plastic Thunderhawk.

But do you believe that to be due to low volumes of Sisters sales, or whatever ridiculous price tag goes on a plastic Thunderhawk?

Yes!

I kind of suspect people were asking GW to make Sisters to get GW to make them, not because they were going to buy new armies of Nuns with Guns.

No worries, though. Dropping the plastic Thunderhawk covers for everything.

 H wrote:
It's the "luxury" of not being mono-pose

I wouldn't be so sure on that. Most of the Primaris and Death Guard releases had extremely limited posing options. Most Primaris kits have a bunch of weapons, but torsos, arms, and legs had to be assembled in a specific way for each model without at least a bit of converting.

I was disappointed this was the case with the Reiver, Aggressor, and Inceptors kits I've assembled.

Just please please PLEASE GW, No Boob plate and no powered armored high heels

Stux wrote:

 H wrote:
It's the "luxury" of not being mono-pose

I wouldn't be so sure on that. Most of the Primaris and Death Guard releases had extremely limited posing options. Most Primaris kits have a bunch of weapons, but torsos, arms, and legs had to be assembled in a specific way for each model without at least a bit of converting.

I was disappointed this was the case with the Reiver, Aggressor, and Inceptors kits I've assembled.

Well, at least less so than the old metals. But maybe they can surprise us with something neat. At the very least, maybe we can hope that there will be several different possible combinations of heads and torsos maybe, which is still better than the old metals.

LunaWolvesLoyalist wrote:
Just please please PLEASE GW, No Boob plate and no powered armored high heels

So you feel that the current Canoness Veridyan and Celestine are not an appropriate aesthetic?

In what way then do you feel would be appropriate to represent a feminine aesthetic to power armor?

I'm hoping for more of the previous sister aesthetic.

I wouldn't bet on too much posability. Currently assembling Dughter's of Khaine and the new models are very static. The models - besides being gorgeous - are always the same pose.

Veridyan sure as hell isn't. Celestine is fine, though.

For ages I thought I had tinnitus, turns out it was just SoB fans complaining for 20 years... That said, 20 years is a pretty long time so good luck and I hope you get some sweet models!

Now what about those Orks...

 Melissia wrote:
Veridyan sure as hell isn't. Celestine is fine, though.

Well, I can understand that, because Veridyan is based off (by today's standards) positively ancient art.

If these new ones are in the style of Celestine though (which is very similar to the old metal Sisters, just less busy and more sleek), I would be very pleased.

I have no problem with boob plate. Power hells... It depends if they are just sligthly raised hells in a metalic boot, or stiletto ones
Im hoping for a meele elite unit with shields and spears like the one in the Karamazov art.

 Eldarsif wrote:
I wouldn't bet on too much posability. Currently assembling Dughter's of Khaine and the new models are very static. The models - besides being gorgeous - are always the same pose.

That's the thing, low posability allows for more cinematic, exciting posing. There's almost a tension between aesthetics and customisability. I think for me generally, I like characters to err on the side of the former (cooler, if less posable stances) and infantry the latter (more customisable but less exciting poses).

Basically because characters should look more badass, but also I dislike being forced to field multiple models in exactly the same pose.

They will almost certainly look like the new Celestine and her friends. They already have the files, they will be based on them. They're not gonna start from scratch when they already have a perfectly fine design available.

I'm excited for new seraphim. Parts of me hope for some new kits like bike sisters, but I'd be fine with just the existing models getting new kits.

 Elbows wrote:
I think it's a bit brave of GW to even finally try this. They're going to get raked over the coals by 40% of recipients regardless of what design decisions they make.

So...about normal?

 Quickjager wrote:

pm713 wrote:
You could just give them a sack with holes or something. Still shows failure but deals with the clothing issue.

And looks like nothing else in 40k and wouldn't sell because it looks, well, ugly.

People buy Centurions and Primaris marines don't they? Ugly won't stop things. How is looking new bad?

People buy Nurgle stuff, and that's ugly as sin.

 H wrote:
If these new ones are in the style of Celestine though (which is very similar to the old metal Sisters, just less busy and more sleek), I would be very pleased.

Likewise.

pm713 wrote:

 Quickjager wrote:

pm713 wrote:
You could just give them a sack with holes or something. Still shows failure but deals with the clothing issue.

And looks like nothing else in 40k and wouldn't sell because it looks, well, ugly.

People buy Centurions and Primaris marines don't they? Ugly won't stop things. How is looking new bad?

There's a difference in the aesthetics between Centurions and a bald women wearing a sack.

I mean, Centurions are kind of adorably ugly, to the point of me understanding Pug owners for the first time.

 Sim-Life wrote:

pm713 wrote:

 Quickjager wrote:

pm713 wrote:
You could just give them a sack with holes or something. Still shows failure but deals with the clothing issue.

And looks like nothing else in 40k and wouldn't sell because it looks, well, ugly.

People buy Centurions and Primaris marines don't they? Ugly won't stop things. How is looking new bad?

There's a difference in the aesthetics between Centurions and a bald women wearing a sack.

Yes but both are ugly which is why it's a bad argument for why it doesn't work.

I may have to finally break my “Xenos only” rule if they do indeed make sisters models and they are as nice as Celestine and her geminae. After reading the Monstress comics I have been hankering for an army of Cumaean battle nuns.

pm713 wrote:

 Sim-Life wrote:

pm713 wrote:

 Quickjager wrote:

pm713 wrote:
You could just give them a sack with holes or something. Still shows failure but deals with the clothing issue.

And looks like nothing else in 40k and wouldn't sell because it looks, well, ugly.

People buy Centurions and Primaris marines don't they? Ugly won't stop things. How is looking new bad?

There's a difference in the aesthetics between Centurions and a bald women wearing a sack.

Yes but both are ugly which is why it's a bad argument for why it doesn't work.

Aesthetics doesn't just mean good looking it means the overall look of something. Centurions might be ugly models but they still fit the rediculousness of 40k and fit the range. They don't look out of place and they convey what they are.

Nothing about bald women wearing sack cloth would really convey what they are visually.

Screaming crazy bald women in torn, bloody, and tattered sackcloth robes, covered in purity seals wielding battered and half-broken chain-zweihanders is practically the epitome of everything that is 40k.

 Melissia wrote:
Screaming crazy bald women in torn, bloody, and tattered sackcloth robes, covered in purity seals wielding battered and half-broken chain-zweihanders is practically the epitome of everything that is 40k.

So very true! But how did you get footage of a GW planning meeting?