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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/10 18:03:20
Subject: Roving Patrol and Tactical Reserves
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Norn Queen
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Since Roving Patrol causes us to put 2/3 of our units in Reserves, and it also allows you to use Teleport/Deep Striking abilities for the ones in Reserve, does that mean the Tactical Reserves rule (requiring you to put 50% on the battlefield during deployment) doesn't apply? Otherwise Roving Patrol can't be used for matched play... For example, if my reserve forces all have a deep strike rule, does that mean I can deep strike 2/3 of my army instead of 50%?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/04/10 18:05:16
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/10 18:05:59
Subject: Roving Patrol and Tactical Reserves
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I would say that it's a case of mission-specific rules overriding general rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/10 18:14:02
Subject: Roving Patrol and Tactical Reserves
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Norn Queen
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As an additional question: How would a Trygon with Genestealers in the accompanying tunnel work? Would you need to roll 3+ on the first turn for both, or just the Trygon?
Man this mission really is poorly thought out...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/10 18:44:07
Subject: Roving Patrol and Tactical Reserves
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Never Forget Isstvan!
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I would say you just need to roll for the trygon, as effectively the genestealers are embarked with him (they just cant ride inside him as he's not a transport).
Missions that require models to be off the board at the start of the game and roll randomly to come on are confusing because of the change to this editions rules, but its not like they weren't used in previous editions.
Just follow the missions rules over the BRB rules if there are contradictions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/10 19:52:18
Subject: Roving Patrol and Tactical Reserves
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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You’d just roll for the Trygon, as its rules tell you how to deploy the Genestealers.
This mission very obviously overrides the Tactical Reserves 50% Rule. It’s in the Matched Play section so it’s designed for a Matched Play. They could have written that bit in but it doesn’t take a genius to figure it out - hardly problematic.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/04/10 21:09:17
Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/10 20:06:06
Subject: Roving Patrol and Tactical Reserves
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Norn Queen
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Eihnlazer wrote:I would say you just need to roll for the trygon, as effectively the genestealers are embarked with him (they just cant ride inside him as he's not a transport).
Missions that require models to be off the board at the start of the game and roll randomly to come on are confusing because of the change to this editions rules, but its not like they weren't used in previous editions.
Just follow the missions rules over the BRB rules if there are contradictions.
The trygon isn't a TRANSPORT though, I don't have permission to do so like a normal TRANSPORT would.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/10 20:49:58
Subject: Roving Patrol and Tactical Reserves
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Never Forget Isstvan!
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Thus why I said "effectively" and not exactly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/11 16:24:39
Subject: Re:Roving Patrol and Tactical Reserves
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Why on earth wouldn’t the genestealers follow the trygon? Did the brood get lost in the 1 way tunnel? How can a hyper intelligent predator fail to follow the massive burrowing worm that was in front of it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/11 16:48:05
Subject: Re:Roving Patrol and Tactical Reserves
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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evil_kiwi_60 wrote:Why on earth wouldn’t the genestealers follow the trygon? Did the brood get lost in the 1 way tunnel? How can a hyper intelligent predator fail to follow the massive burrowing worm that was in front of it?
Using "real world" logic to debate the rules as they are presented? That way lies madness.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/11 16:48:33
Subject: Roving Patrol and Tactical Reserves
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Clousseau
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It doesn't matter if it is a TRANSPORT or not.
The unit is set up in the tunnels with the Trygon.
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