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@ Ouze

The Blue Star Irregulars might just be a perfect fit.

They're Fedcom mercenaries, who fought the Capellans just prior to the Clan Invasion, which easily explains Ravens and Catapults in their ranks.

Then they successfully stole a Warship from Clan Jade Falcon at great cost, and rebuilt with Clan salvage.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Blue_Star_Irregulars

Most any Liao, Lyran or Steiner unit could work. check out http://camospecs.com/ to find a unit whose colors you enjoy!

Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
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IKR? Iron Kingdoms Roleplay?
   
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 Albertorius wrote:
IKR? Iron Kingdoms Roleplay?


No, Imperial Knights Renegade.
   
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Heh. I thought he meant Iron Kingdom Roleplay as well.


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 Gitzbitah wrote:
@ Ouze

The Blue Star Irregulars might just be a perfect fit.

They're Fedcom mercenaries, who fought the Capellans just prior to the Clan Invasion, which easily explains Ravens and Catapults in their ranks.

Then they successfully stole a Warship from Clan Jade Falcon at great cost, and rebuilt with Clan salvage.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Blue_Star_Irregulars

Most any Liao, Lyran or Steiner unit could work. check out http://camospecs.com/ to find a unit whose colors you enjoy!


Thank you so much. This is right on point in terms of what I need.

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Mercenaries will always be the best answer for mixed units. Or Death Commandos.

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by 3060 any front line house unit would work too, that said going mercenary is ALWAYS the best solution.

Well that or Davion Guards but I might be biased

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Wait, so I could do a post-3060 Kurita? That would work for me.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.

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 Ouze wrote:
Wait, so I could do a post-3060 Kurita? That would work for me.


Well Kurita is not as cool as the CC, but I guess you could put all those mechs in a Kurita unit. Tho Ravens are not very common in the DC, they have their own electronic warfare instead, the Hitman.
If I were to choose I would go Liao-Marik-Kurita-Steiner-everybody else-Davion

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Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.

About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though." 
   
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 Ouze wrote:
Wait, so I could do a post-3060 Kurita? That would work for me.


Now that's going into an era I'm less familiar with, but it looks like the Chaos March, particularly the Lyon's Thumb would be the most likely locale for Draconis forces that included a hefty dose of Capellan and Fedcom mechs. Any of the many Dieron Regulars would be great canonical choices- though I'd probably add a distinctly heavy or light Drac mech- maybe the Raptor, or Strider- they're both Inner Sphere omnis from the same time that the DCMS loved, and both have an aesthetic similar to the mechs you've listed.

The Catapult can also be run in the dreaded K2 variant, giving it 2 PPCs and an instant association with Kurita.

Now if you want to go full Samurai, grab a Hatamoto-Chi and No-Dachi. No one will ever question that it is a DCMS force if you have a No Dachi.

Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
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Mercurial wrote:
I admire your aplomb and instate you as Baron of the Seas and Lord Marshall of Privateers.
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hobojebus wrote:
Why play any freebirth when you could choose the chosen of kerensky, you understand the way of the clans is superior quiaff?

Agreed. Although if someone would really want to run with freebirth rabble for some inexplicable reason, I guess that Kuritans do come closest to having something that could be called honour.

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 Miguelsan wrote:
 Ouze wrote:
Wait, so I could do a post-3060 Kurita? That would work for me.


Well Kurita is not as cool as the CC, but I guess you could put all those mechs in a Kurita unit. Tho Ravens are not very common in the DC, they have their own electronic warfare instead, the Hitman.
If I were to choose I would go Liao-Marik-Kurita-Steiner-everybody else-Davion

M.


you got the order reversed

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Speaking of factions- they did a great job selecting mechs that were used by all the Great Houses- the only mech really bound to one house is the Commando. Still, some favor them more than others- Behold!

Mech, and Houses they most commonly appear in, in order of frequency.
Wolverine - FWL, Federated Suns, Kurita
Griffin- Kurita, FWL, Federated Suns
Awesome- FWL
Battlemaster- Lyran, FWL
Catapult- Capellan Confederation
Thunderbolt- Lyran, FWL, Capellan
Commando- Lyran
Locust- Ubiquitous
Shadow Hawk- FWL


extra bonus
Blessed Mechs, mechs with variants used by the Word of Blake.
Griffin- GRF-4R
Wolverine- WVR-9W
Commando- Com-7B
Locust- LCT-5W and LCT-5W2

And here's a great resource compiled from old tech readouts and sourcebooks. It has random assignment tables for 3028 for many different factions.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yh0d5y4f0j3jkiv/3028-3050%20Random%20Assignment%20%26%20Rarity%20Tables%209.1.pdf?dl=0

Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
Gwar- "And everyone wants a bigger Spleen!"
Mercurial wrote:
I admire your aplomb and instate you as Baron of the Seas and Lord Marshall of Privateers.
Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
Orkeosaurus, on homophobia, the nature of homosexuality, and the greatness of George Takei.
English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleyways and mugs them for loose grammar.

 
   
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Griffin-Lyran! Lyran! Lyran!
   
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 Mmmpi wrote:
Griffin-Lyran! Lyran! Lyran!


Yeah, agree. Griffins are pretty damn iconic for House Steiner. Hell, a pair of them guard the Archon in the throne room.

   
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Excellent points! I was going off of the blurbs on Sarna. edited to add Lyran to Griffins.


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 Gitzbitah wrote:
Speaking of factions- they did a great job selecting mechs that were used by all the Great Houses- the only mech really bound to one house is the Commando. Still, some favor them more than others- Behold!

Mech, and Houses they most commonly appear in, in order of frequency.
Wolverine - FWL, Federated Suns, Kurita
Griffin- Lyran, Kurita, FWL, Federated Suns
Awesome- FWL
Battlemaster- Lyran, FWL
Catapult- Capellan Confederation
Thunderbolt- Lyran, FWL, Capellan
Commando- Lyran
Locust- Ubiquitous
Shadow Hawk- FWL


extra bonus
Blessed Mechs, mechs with variants used by the Word of Blake.
Griffin- GRF-4R , GRF-6CS
Wolverine- WVR-9W
Commando- Com-7B
Locust- LCT-5W and LCT-5W2

And here's a great resource compiled from old tech readouts and sourcebooks. It has random assignment tables for 3028 for many different factions.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yh0d5y4f0j3jkiv/3028-3050%20Random%20Assignment%20%26%20Rarity%20Tables%209.1.pdf?dl=0

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Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
Gwar- "And everyone wants a bigger Spleen!"
Mercurial wrote:
I admire your aplomb and instate you as Baron of the Seas and Lord Marshall of Privateers.
Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
Orkeosaurus, on homophobia, the nature of homosexuality, and the greatness of George Takei.
English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleyways and mugs them for loose grammar.

 
   
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 Mmmpi wrote:
Griffin-Lyran! Lyran! Lyran!
Yeah I was gonna say...

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Battlemaster is pretty closely associated with the Davions, if only because it's what Hanse rides

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 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
 Mmmpi wrote:
Griffin-Lyran! Lyran! Lyran!


Yeah, agree. Griffins are pretty damn iconic for House Steiner. Hell, a pair of them guard the Archon in the throne room.



Fun fact: that back wall is actually a door.
   
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BrianDavion wrote:
Battlemaster is pretty closely associated with the Davions, if only because it's what Hanse rides


I would argue that. Battlemasters were used by commanders and House Lords in general because it fit the role of a commander's Mech. Minoru Kurita and Takashi Kurita also used it. Davion couldn't actually produce any of them. Liao had the original production line and large numbers initially, but when that line was destroyed, Steiner and Marik became the largest users due to secondary production lines. This was as of the 3025 era. Later in the timeline, production resumed in House Liao territory. So really, all of the Houses used the Battlemaster.

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 Mmmpi wrote:
 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
 Mmmpi wrote:
Griffin-Lyran! Lyran! Lyran!


Yeah, agree. Griffins are pretty damn iconic for House Steiner. Hell, a pair of them guard the Archon in the throne room.

[img]


Fun fact: that back wall is actually a door.


I kinda always wondered how they got the `Mechs in and out of the throne room. I wouldn't want to be in that room if any of the main weapons were discharged. Yikes.


Iracundus wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
Battlemaster is pretty closely associated with the Davions, if only because it's what Hanse rides


I would argue that. Battlemasters were used by commanders and House Lords in general because it fit the role of a commander's Mech. Minoru Kurita and Takashi Kurita also used it. Davion couldn't actually produce any of them. Liao had the original production line and large numbers initially, but when that line was destroyed, Steiner and Marik became the largest users due to secondary production lines. This was as of the 3025 era. Later in the timeline, production resumed in House Liao territory. So really, all of the Houses used the Battlemaster.


I think you are missing BrianDavion's point. Hanse Davion rode the Battlemaster, and especially for the early fiction, that was a big deal. Association between a `Mech and faction doesn't mean that design is produced, or even fielded in large numbers, by that faction. It could simply be a matter of an iconic personality from that faction piloting that design. Like Natasha Kerensky, and by extension the Wolf's Dragoons, associated with the Warhammer. Or the Archer in Jamie Wolf's case. Phelan Ward drove a Wolfhound even when he was a Clanner and that `Mech is produced by Steiner.
   
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Minoru and Takashi Kurita are iconic personalities that piloted BattleMasters. That would make it just as closely associated with House Kurita as House Davion.

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cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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 Ghaz wrote:
Minoru and Takashi Kurita are iconic personalities that piloted BattleMasters. That would make it just as closely associated with House Kurita as House Davion.


I don't think Minoru Kurita is a close analog to Hanse Davion. Takashi is a lot closer, but even that character didn't receive the focus Hanse did until much later. House Davion was the focus of many of the original plot lines for the game. Hanse Davion was a huge influence on early Battletech both as a character in the novels and as a political figure. He was The Fox! He outwitted Max Liao and united two houses! He planned the 4th Succession War, and established the New Avalon Institute of Science!

It wasn't until Hanse died and the Clan era began that the focus was taken off Davion primarily and expanded to explore the other houses. Prior to that most of the other houses like Liao and Kurita were just the bad guys.

   
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Takashi was indeed an iconic character and you can ask any Wolf's Dragoons fans what kind of an impact he had on the setting. The fact remains that the BattleMaster has had many 'iconic personalities' pilot the 'mech from many Houses, not just House Davion.

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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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 Ghaz wrote:
Takashi was indeed an iconic character and you can ask any Wolf's Dragoons fans what kind of an impact he had on the setting. The fact remains that the BattleMaster has had many 'iconic personalities' pilot the 'mech from many Houses, not just House Davion.


Did I say he wasn't? I said he wasn't as iconic as Hanse. And thanks for backing my point, up until the Clan invasion Takashi, like most Kuritans, was a bad guy. He screwed over the protagonist Wolf's Dragoons, and was the foil for Hanse Davion.





   
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 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
 Mmmpi wrote:
 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
 Mmmpi wrote:
Griffin-Lyran! Lyran! Lyran!


Yeah, agree. Griffins are pretty damn iconic for House Steiner. Hell, a pair of them guard the Archon in the throne room.

[img]


Fun fact: that back wall is actually a door.


I kinda always wondered how they got the `Mechs in and out of the throne room. I wouldn't want to be in that room if any of the main weapons were discharged. Yikes.

Funnier still, those two 'mechs don't carry a single short range weapon...
   
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 Albertorius wrote:
 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
 Mmmpi wrote:
 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
 Mmmpi wrote:
Griffin-Lyran! Lyran! Lyran!


Yeah, agree. Griffins are pretty damn iconic for House Steiner. Hell, a pair of them guard the Archon in the throne room.

[img]


Fun fact: that back wall is actually a door.


I kinda always wondered how they got the `Mechs in and out of the throne room. I wouldn't want to be in that room if any of the main weapons were discharged. Yikes.

Funnier still, those two 'mechs don't carry a single short range weapon...



They're likely GRF-1S models which replace the weapons with a Large Laser, 2 mediums and a LRM 5.





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BrianDavion wrote:
They're likely GRF-1S models which replace the weapons with a Large Laser, 2 mediums and a LRM 5.

Did you take a look at the pic? The ML might be a 5, true (it certainly has 5 holes), but the arm weapon should be three were that the case.

It is also way less funny that way, so meh

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 Albertorius wrote:


It is also way less funny that way, so meh


Yeah. I like imagining a threat against the Archon being handled by a PPC blast. Sure, everyone in the throne room is dead, but damn it! so is the assassin.
   
 
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