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 Ghaz wrote:
Minoru and Takashi Kurita are iconic personalities that piloted BattleMasters. That would make it just as closely associated with House Kurita as House Davion.


Minoru Kurita is a background character, he's hardly iconic. (assuming you're talking about the cordinator at the time of the fall of the Star League)


and Takashi may have piloted a battlemaster once or twice but if he did it wasn't in any remarkable actions. (Takashi's most notable action for us was the battle of Luthien where he piloted a grand dragon)

Hanse meanwhile was actually listed as the notable battlemaster pilot in TRO 3039

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BrianDavion wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
Minoru and Takashi Kurita are iconic personalities that piloted BattleMasters. That would make it just as closely associated with House Kurita as House Davion.


Minoru Kurita is a background character, he's hardly iconic. (assuming you're talking about the cordinator at the time of the fall of the Star League)


and Takashi may have piloted a battlemaster once or twice but if he did it wasn't in any remarkable actions. (Takashi's most notable action for us was the battle of Luthien where he piloted a grand dragon)

Hanse meanwhile was actually listed as the notable battlemaster pilot in TRO 3039

Handbook: House Kurita would disagree with your assessment of Takashi, with him rising from a lance commander to command the regiment's heavy assault battalion and then command of the Otomo while piloting the family's BattleMaster. He may have even been mentioned in the technical readout as well if he wasn't the heir to his father (who was assassinated in 3004) and ruling the Draconis Combine for thirty-five years.. Hanse meanwhile was the second son who was destined for a life in the AFFS if not for the death of his brother Ian in 3013 at the hands of Yorinaga Kurita.

Regardless, there's a lot that makes a 'mech an 'iconic' choice for a faction other than just having someone listed as a 'Notable Pilot' in a tech readout.

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 Ghaz wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
Minoru and Takashi Kurita are iconic personalities that piloted BattleMasters. That would make it just as closely associated with House Kurita as House Davion.


Minoru Kurita is a background character, he's hardly iconic. (assuming you're talking about the cordinator at the time of the fall of the Star League)


and Takashi may have piloted a battlemaster once or twice but if he did it wasn't in any remarkable actions. (Takashi's most notable action for us was the battle of Luthien where he piloted a grand dragon)

Hanse meanwhile was actually listed as the notable battlemaster pilot in TRO 3039

Handbook: House Kurita would disagree with your assessment of Takashi, with him rising from a lance commander to command the regiment's heavy assault battalion and then command of the Otomo while piloting the family's BattleMaster. He may have even been mentioned in the technical readout as well if he wasn't the heir to his father (who was assassinated in 3004) and ruling the Draconis Combine for thirty-five years.. Hanse meanwhile was the second son who was destined for a life in the AFFS if not for the death of his brother Ian in 3013 at the hands of Yorinaga Kurita.

Regardless, there's a lot that makes a 'mech an 'iconic' choice for a faction other than just having someone listed as a 'Notable Pilot' in a tech readout.



Handbook: House Kurita was written in 2015 much, much later in the setting's development and after House Davion wasn't the primary focus of the story line (relative to the 80's when it was all about Davion).

Sure, Takashi is an iconic character, and I guess he drove a Battlemaster in his past, but he isn't necessarily associated with the Battlemaster like Hanse Davion is. I recall him defending Luthien with a Grand Dragon because I read about that in one of the BT novels. I don't recall reading a novel with Takashi zipping around in a Battlemaster. Hanse is mentioned piloting a Battlemaster in the novels (he fights Kai in a simulator on Outreach using his Battlemaster off the top of my head), in the fluff, and throughout the setting's many materials. Not so with Takashi.

And this is going back to what BrianDavion originally said. The Battlemaster is often associated with Davion because of Hanse. When the face of a major faction pilots a specific `Mech continuously that association is cemented regardless of the in-universe reasons why or why not that should be the case. House Davion doesn't make Battlemasters? So what? Hanse has one, and that is all that people will remember.

Takashi's Mechwarrior abilities as far as I can recall were never as prominent as his ruling abilities. Takashi is associated with cunning and political maneuvering. Again, a foil to Hanse Davion who was younger and active, but squaring off against an older statesmen in the political games of the Inner Sphere.
   
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Yeah, agree. Griffins are pretty damn iconic for House Steiner. Hell, a pair of them guard the Archon in the throne room.



Fun fact: that back wall is actually a door.


I kinda always wondered how they got the `Mechs in and out of the throne room. I wouldn't want to be in that room if any of the main weapons were discharged. Yikes.

Funnier still, those two 'mechs don't carry a single short range weapon...
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For short ranged combat, there's also their feet. I imagine it wouldn't take a Griffin long to cross that room and stamp an assassin out like a cigarette butt.
   
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I honestly had never heard of the Battlemaster being associated with the Fed Suns until now.

While Hanse Davion was indeed a notable pilot, he was the only named Fed Sun (not Fed Com) mechwarrior I can think of who rode one, and it only happened twice in the novels I can think of (repelling the raid on New Avalon during the 4th Succession War, and Kai Allard-Liao's Trial of Position run by the Wolf's Dragoons). I always remember it being a Marik or Steiner machine.
   
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 Mmmpi wrote:
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 Albertorius wrote:
 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
 Mmmpi wrote:
 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
 Mmmpi wrote:
Griffin-Lyran! Lyran! Lyran!


Yeah, agree. Griffins are pretty damn iconic for House Steiner. Hell, a pair of them guard the Archon in the throne room.



Fun fact: that back wall is actually a door.


I kinda always wondered how they got the `Mechs in and out of the throne room. I wouldn't want to be in that room if any of the main weapons were discharged. Yikes.

Funnier still, those two 'mechs don't carry a single short range weapon...[/spoiler]

For short ranged combat, there's also their feet. I imagine it wouldn't take a Griffin long to cross that room and stamp an assassin out like a cigarette butt.


If you're armored only in your Sunday best or even infantry combat kit, raw shrapnel from LRMs or PPC discharge will still ruin your day very effectively.

Plus, the Griffins don't even need to really aim!

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I honestly had never heard of the Battlemaster being associated with the Fed Suns until now.

While Hanse Davion was indeed a notable pilot, he was the only named Fed Sun (not Fed Com) mechwarrior I can think of who rode one, and it only happened twice in the novels I can think of (repelling the raid on New Avalon during the 4th Succession War, and Kai Allard-Liao's Trial of Position run by the Wolf's Dragoons). I always remember it being a Marik or Steiner machine.

Agreed. If you want to know what is an 'iconic' 'mech for a faction you look at it's deployment and not the notable pilots. Otherwise you'd believe that the Daishi OmniMech is an 'iconic' Com Star 'mech since Technical Readout: 3050 Upgrade lists Precentor Martial Victor Steiner-Davion as a 'Notable MechWarrior' for the Daishi.

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nobody wrote:
I honestly had never heard of the Battlemaster being associated with the Fed Suns until now.

While Hanse Davion was indeed a notable pilot, he was the only named Fed Sun (not Fed Com) mechwarrior I can think of who rode one, and it only happened twice in the novels I can think of (repelling the raid on New Avalon during the 4th Succession War, and Kai Allard-Liao's Trial of Position run by the Wolf's Dragoons). I always remember it being a Marik or Steiner machine.


Those are two pretty pivotal moments in the setting's story and neither resulted in an association with the `Mech and Hanse Davion for you?

*shrug*

Not sure this means anything but about 20% of the Battlemasters painted on CamoSpecs are in Davion/Fed Suns schemes. For a non-Davion `Mech that is pretty healthy representation for the ol' Sword and Sunburst!

   
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 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
nobody wrote:
I honestly had never heard of the Battlemaster being associated with the Fed Suns until now.

While Hanse Davion was indeed a notable pilot, he was the only named Fed Sun (not Fed Com) mechwarrior I can think of who rode one, and it only happened twice in the novels I can think of (repelling the raid on New Avalon during the 4th Succession War, and Kai Allard-Liao's Trial of Position run by the Wolf's Dragoons). I always remember it being a Marik or Steiner machine.


Those are two pretty pivotal moments in the setting's story and neither resulted in an association with the `Mech and Hanse Davion for you?

*shrug*

Not sure this means anything but about 20% of the Battlemasters painted on CamoSpecs are in Davion/Fed Suns schemes. For a non-Davion `Mech that is pretty healthy representation for the ol' Sword and Sunburst!



I never associated Battlemasters with Davion either. They were always a Mech for commanders and nobles/rulers but no specific House association for me.

Clearly this association is not as universal as you make it out to be.
   
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I... don't really care all that much about what's iconic for which faction. One of the strong points of the setting, IMHO, is that while you can follow those lines if you want, there's always ways to circunvent them and do whatever you like and don't care about "canon".
   
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 Mattlov wrote:
 Mmmpi wrote:



Fun fact: that back wall is actually a door.


I kinda always wondered how they got the `Mechs in and out of the throne room. I wouldn't want to be in that room if any of the main weapons were discharged. Yikes.

Funnier still, those two 'mechs don't carry a single short range weapon...

For short ranged combat, there's also their feet. I imagine it wouldn't take a Griffin long to cross that room and stamp an assassin out like a cigarette butt.


If you're armored only in your Sunday best or even infantry combat kit, raw shrapnel from LRMs or PPC discharge will still ruin your day very effectively.

Plus, the Griffins don't even need to really aim!

I wondered about that as well. How do those 'Mechs even move without damaging that nice marble floor? I don't think their armament really matters though. Having 'Mech bodyguards is more for the intimidation than it is practical.

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 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
nobody wrote:
I honestly had never heard of the Battlemaster being associated with the Fed Suns until now.

While Hanse Davion was indeed a notable pilot, he was the only named Fed Sun (not Fed Com) mechwarrior I can think of who rode one, and it only happened twice in the novels I can think of (repelling the raid on New Avalon during the 4th Succession War, and Kai Allard-Liao's Trial of Position run by the Wolf's Dragoons). I always remember it being a Marik or Steiner machine.


Those are two pretty pivotal moments in the setting's story and neither resulted in an association with the `Mech and Hanse Davion for you?

*shrug*

Not sure this means anything but about 20% of the Battlemasters painted on CamoSpecs are in Davion/Fed Suns schemes. For a non-Davion `Mech that is pretty healthy representation for the ol' Sword and Sunburst!



Nope, not really, but I’ll admit when I was bigger into the game (circa early 90s) I did much deeper dives into the fluff. Like, I knew Davion tended to be big into autocannon mechs (at least, when it came to 3025 mechs). The Enforcer, Blackjack, Jagermech, and Victor all come to mind as more iconic Fed Suns mechs to me.

And Davion did have quite a few Battlemasters, but theirs were mostly captured from the Capellans or Combine. I wouldn’t blink twice if I was playing against somebody who was playing a Fed Suns army and he dropped a Battlemaster, but I wouldn’t go into a blind match and think “yeah, he’s playing a Davion RCT so he’s definitely going to be leading off with a BLR.”
   
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 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
nobody wrote:
I honestly had never heard of the Battlemaster being associated with the Fed Suns until now.

While Hanse Davion was indeed a notable pilot, he was the only named Fed Sun (not Fed Com) mechwarrior I can think of who rode one, and it only happened twice in the novels I can think of (repelling the raid on New Avalon during the 4th Succession War, and Kai Allard-Liao's Trial of Position run by the Wolf's Dragoons). I always remember it being a Marik or Steiner machine.


Those are two pretty pivotal moments in the setting's story and neither resulted in an association with the `Mech and Hanse Davion for you?

*shrug*

Not sure this means anything but about 20% of the Battlemasters painted on CamoSpecs are in Davion/Fed Suns schemes. For a non-Davion `Mech that is pretty healthy representation for the ol' Sword and Sunburst!



I never associated Battlemasters with Davion either. They were always a Mech for commanders and nobles/rulers but no specific House association for me.

Clearly this association is not as universal as you make it out to be.


Clearly not since a handful of people on the internet disagree with me. Doesn't mean you guys aren't all horribly wrong, though.

I think there are a lot of factors at play here, the biggest is probably when people first began playing Battletech and what their focus was: fluff or crunch. Since the counter arguments here seem to focus on which `Mech factories and which `Mech assignment charts the Battlemaster belongs to rather than which characters were using it, or citing books 20+ years into the games' development and after the characters being discussed were no longer prominent, there seems to be a divide along game eras and fluff/crunch.

nobody wrote:
 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
nobody wrote:
I honestly had never heard of the Battlemaster being associated with the Fed Suns until now.

While Hanse Davion was indeed a notable pilot, he was the only named Fed Sun (not Fed Com) mechwarrior I can think of who rode one, and it only happened twice in the novels I can think of (repelling the raid on New Avalon during the 4th Succession War, and Kai Allard-Liao's Trial of Position run by the Wolf's Dragoons). I always remember it being a Marik or Steiner machine.


Those are two pretty pivotal moments in the setting's story and neither resulted in an association with the `Mech and Hanse Davion for you?

*shrug*

Not sure this means anything but about 20% of the Battlemasters painted on CamoSpecs are in Davion/Fed Suns schemes. For a non-Davion `Mech that is pretty healthy representation for the ol' Sword and Sunburst!



Nope, not really, but I’ll admit when I was bigger into the game (circa early 90s) I did much deeper dives into the fluff. Like, I knew Davion tended to be big into autocannon mechs (at least, when it came to 3025 mechs). The Enforcer, Blackjack, Jagermech, and Victor all come to mind as more iconic Fed Suns mechs to me.

And Davion did have quite a few Battlemasters, but theirs were mostly captured from the Capellans or Combine. I wouldn’t blink twice if I was playing against somebody who was playing a Fed Suns army and he dropped a Battlemaster, but I wouldn’t go into a blind match and think “yeah, he’s playing a Davion RCT so he’s definitely going to be leading off with a BLR.”


Yeah, that makes sense. If you see a faction through the random assignment tables then it makes sense that a non-faction design wouldn't stand out despite a major character in that faction using the design. However, if you are a fluff person you might associate things differently.

   
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I must admit, my list was composed from the availability mentioned in the Technical Readouts- TRO 3050 had this little blurb about the Battlemaster-
"This was enough though to make House Steiner and House Marik the largest users of BattleMasters during the Succession Wars. House Liao also fielded a large number of BattleMasters, at least until the devastation of the Fourth Succession War when many fell into the hands of the Federated Suns, themselves lacking any BattleMaster factories."

So weirdly, I was also using fluff, just a different variety of fluff. I never touched the Random Assignment Tables- my collection's never been massive enough to use them.

And it is also totally canon to steal mechs from enemy factions.

Sarna.net is a wonderful source if you'd love to know everything about a mech- and it cites 54 separate sources for the Battlemaster. The fluff is deep and wide, and does not touch on the novels.

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All this talk reminds me of the last BT campaign I was in. We had to roll our unit's composition off of a master chart. One of mine was the weirdest roll. Was a merc unit originally from the CC. One of my mechs was salvaged, from the MoC. Who salvaged it from the FWL, who salvaged it from the CC, who salvaged it from the FWL, who salvaged it from the LC, who got it from the DC, who got it from the FS. Who built it. That little Valkyrie was a tramp.
   
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All this talk reminds me of the last BT campaign I was in. We had to roll our unit's composition off of a master chart. One of mine was the weirdest roll. Was a merc unit originally from the CC. One of my mechs was salvaged, from the MoC. Who salvaged it from the FWL, who salvaged it from the CC, who salvaged it from the FWL, who salvaged it from the LC, who got it from the DC, who got it from the FS. Who built it. That little Valkyrie was a tramp.
That's one hell of a series of rolls!

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Yeah. The whole thing was rolled out, you could start with between 4 and 20 mechs. I lucked out and got 15, including two atlases. (3025 campaign). There was a drop limit on missions though.
   
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Well they talked about the new starter sets on their instagram with a debut at gencon and retail soon after that
   
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Is it just me or has Battletech really failed to keep up with the times? I mean, it's not as if these models are bad or anything, but they don't really look to fit the 2018 standard. I mean...compared to the upcoming Adeptus Titanicus models these look like something from the 90s. :(

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They really look ancient.
   
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 Malika2 wrote:
Is it just me or has Battletech really failed to keep up with the times? I mean, it's not as if these models are bad or anything, but they don't really look to fit the 2018 standard. I mean...compared to the upcoming Adeptus Titanicus models these look like something from the 90s. :(


I don't quite follow. These figures are about the size of the Knight from Adeptus Titanicus, and as far as detail is concerned they don't look too dissimilar? What about these looks dated?




"something from the 90's" looks like this:



   
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Yes they look dated, that’s the point, battletech is very 80’s and I love it for it.
   
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They look really good - and if they are the same scale as the New AT Knights - ohh that would be a fun crossover game

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My major gripe is more or less the cheap plastic they've released the previous minis in (and likely these too). Not the pearl-swirl awful stuff from the original kit "look, the paint just magically disappears!", but they've never once put quality HIPS level stuff in their kits.

If any franchise in gaming would benefit from quality multi-part plastic kits (not super crazy, but optional arms, etc.) it's Battletech. So I do agree. Now, if the prices are cheap, that's fine...but between the awful Iron Wind Metals and the sub-par plastic, it's tough to get excited about Battletech from a hobbying standpoint.

I love the new poses and the styling is spot on, I just hope they're not slippery cheapo plastic. Even the last starter box which was revised to be better was still below anything else you find in the miniatures world. Their lance packs (which started at some absurd price and eventually dropped substantially) were laughable quality for the money you paid.

I like Battletech, always have. It's just a love-hate relationship at times. I want their minis and models to be fantastic. I want to see a big sweet-ass multipart plastic Leopard kit, etc. What I get from Battletechis too often an "almost" product. I recently sold off my rather decent Battletech forces because I just didn't like the minis. I'd like to see a price/quality that brings me back.
   
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 Formosa wrote:
Yes they look dated, that’s the point, battletech is very 80’s and I love it for it.

Yes. The game designers commonly refer to it as 'the future of the 1980's' on their forums.

One must also remember that the real life inspiration for these designs date back to the late 70's-early 80's and they're meant to stay closer to these than say the MWO take on these designs.

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Malika2 wrote:Is it just me or has Battletech really failed to keep up with the times? I mean, it's not as if these models are bad or anything, but they don't really look to fit the 2018 standard. I mean...compared to the upcoming Adeptus Titanicus models these look like something from the 90s. :(


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Get off my lawn, you youn’ ‘uns.

I love them, makes me want to pick up the set.

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Their lance packs (which started at some absurd price and eventually dropped substantially) were laughable quality for the money you paid.


Battletech dropped off my radar for a few years, but are you talking about the $9.99 lance packs? What were they priced at before? At $10 for 4 plastic `Mechs the lance packs are a steal and perfect for inexperienced modelers since they were all single piece models. Quality was fine from the packs I picked up. Much better quality than the anemic 2007 starter set plastics and worlds apart from the 1992 "pearl-swirl" minis (those were bad).

 Elbows wrote:
I like Battletech, always have. It's just a love-hate relationship at times. I want their minis and models to be fantastic. I want to see a big sweet-ass multipart plastic Leopard kit, etc. What I get from Battletechis too often an "almost" product. I recently sold off my rather decent Battletech forces because I just didn't like the minis. I'd like to see a price/quality that brings me back.


Yeah. Hard to disagree, post-FASA Battletech has been a roller coaster ride and I honestly think the game would be better off out of Catalyst Game Labs control. There have been too many set backs and a lot of internal drama with Catalyst that I just don't find them to be good stewards of the license.

Still, being stuck with CGL, this move is the first step in potentially building Battletech back up into something. For years now the main boxed set has been OOP, map sets have been OOP, game rules have been OOP, but all of those crucial basic elements to get a game into players hands are being addressed. With luck, maybe enough people will buy in and eventually consistent, higher quality products will roll out the door.

I am not holding my breath because Battletech seems cursed at times, but if there was ever a moment when Battletech could take off this is it. The Hairbrained Schemes game along with MWO have opened up the fan base. We just need to get some of those computer game players over to the table top.

   
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Yep, that's another issue. Oh, and originally I believe the Lance Packs were like $20-$25.00.

Eye watering for soft-plastic minis.

I agree though, Battletech is one of the few IPs which somehow carries on despite being out of print for years at a time --- it's happened five or six times since I initially bought a starter box in the early 90's. I have my qualms with Battletech, but I just want it to be good...I'm loving the PC game, so I guess that's something.
   
 
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