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2018/08/09 00:17:50
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
LoL, Battletech can't be killed. Strike it down, and it will spring up again in some other form.
You would be hard pressed to find any gaming intellectual property which has such enduring popularity and somehow persistently fails to capitalize on that popularity- yet still succeeds.
It's the Arizona Tea of wargames. They never change their formula, they never advertise, but they're always there, and they always deliver exactly what you expect. Sure, it's unlikely there's a weekly game at your FLGS, but bust out a lance and play an evening- and within a week almost everyone involved is dusting off their old miniatures, or ordering minis or sourcebooks.
Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
Gwar- "And everyone wants a bigger Spleen!"
Mercurial wrote:
I admire your aplomb and instate you as Baron of the Seas and Lord Marshall of Privateers.
Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
Orkeosaurus, on homophobia, the nature of homosexuality, and the greatness of George Takei.
English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleyways and mugs them for loose grammar.
2018/08/09 09:00:41
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
In a way it's lack of regular releases is it's biggest strength,
those who play are committed, where it is played community is strong and will go out of their way to get together and play, chat etc
if there were regular releases the player base would be different and prone to evaporation as soon as the releases stopped (although the hard core would eventually come together again)
2018/08/09 10:21:24
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
those who play are committed, where it is played community is strong and will go out of their way to get together and play, chat etc
if there were regular releases the player base would be different and prone to evaporation as soon as the releases stopped (although the hard core would eventually come together again)
pretty much this, you need to keep in mind Battletech survived the death of the original company that made it, it's a survivor.
It's kinda like the cockroach of gaming, it may come off as kinda "ugly and primitive" to some but it's a proven survivor. Battletech was around before a lotta the big games today (even 40k is younger, coming out first in
87 to Battledroids '84) and chances are good it'll survive a lot of them.
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
2018/08/09 14:03:39
Subject: Re:Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
Ghaz wrote: Review of the new plastic 'Mechs from Camo Specs Online:
After seeing this,,, I am happy with the minis... wish they were sprues and multi pose, but if they can keep the rest of the line to this quality.. I think its going to work
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I've watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those ... moments will be lost in time, like tears...in rain
2018/08/09 18:48:45
Subject: Re:Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
Ghaz wrote: Review of the new plastic 'Mechs from Camo Specs Online:
After seeing this,,, I am happy with the minis... wish they were sprues and multi pose, but if they can keep the rest of the line to this quality.. I think its going to work
Rest of the line? I thought it was only going to be these minis not any more. Did I miss or forget something?
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
2018/08/09 19:41:09
Subject: Re:Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
Ghaz wrote: Review of the new plastic 'Mechs from Camo Specs Online:
After seeing this,,, I am happy with the minis... wish they were sprues and multi pose, but if they can keep the rest of the line to this quality.. I think its going to work
Rest of the line? I thought it was only going to be these minis not any more. Did I miss or forget something?
Notes from Gencon suggest there is a gentleman's agreement with IWM that allows CGL to have a shot at producing the 'prime' or core variant of each mech in plastic. So you'll get a 6R Warhammer, but any variants will be produced by Iron Wind.
So, are there going to be more plastic lance boxes? Was there any word on how CGL will get the plastics in circulation? I've missed most of what news came out of GenCon.
2018/08/09 20:25:54
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
Thank you Cypher. I didn't know that. Great to know.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
2018/08/09 21:19:46
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
infinite_array wrote: My hope/dream is that the lance packs are re-released with the updated design mechs, even if it means a $5-$10 increase in price.
I can live with that too.
If this is how we get plastic re-pre-un-re-seen (I don't even know what we're meant to call that 'batch' nowadays), then that would be fantastic.
More fantastic however would be the classic invasion 'Mechs in Star Packs. There are 16 of them, which doesn't divide by 5, so let's add 4 more Clanners to the list (Kodiak, Turkina, Cauldron-Born, Hunchback IIC), and release them across 4 different boxes. That'd be worth $30-$40 each.
infinite_array wrote: My hope/dream is that the lance packs are re-released with the updated design mechs, even if it means a $5-$10 increase in price.
I can live with that too.
If this is how we get plastic re-pre-un-re-seen (I don't even know what we're meant to call that 'batch' nowadays), then that would be fantastic.
More fantastic however would be the classic invasion 'Mechs in Star Packs. There are 16 of them, which doesn't divide by 5, so let's add 4 more Clanners to the list (Kodiak, Turkina, Cauldron-Born, Hunchback IIC), and release them across 4 different boxes. That'd be worth $30-$40 each.
Kodiak and Hunchback IIC are standard mechs va the frontline Omnimechs of the rest so proably a bad choice, Maybe the Hankyu, Grendel? both post tro 3050 designs that where active by 3052 I belive.
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2018/08/09 22:05:38
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
Oh the Grendel would be awesome. Nasty mech for its weight. That or a Shadowcat would be glorious.
Although- what if you tossed in a stand of plastic Elementals to round it out? Production costs would be kept low, and the Clan organizational structure would be preserved. 4 Omnis and a Point of Elementals.
Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
Gwar- "And everyone wants a bigger Spleen!"
Mercurial wrote:
I admire your aplomb and instate you as Baron of the Seas and Lord Marshall of Privateers.
Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
Orkeosaurus, on homophobia, the nature of homosexuality, and the greatness of George Takei.
English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleyways and mugs them for loose grammar.
2018/08/09 22:05:55
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
H.B.M.C. wrote: If this is how we get plastic re-pre-un-re-seen (I don't even know what we're meant to call that 'batch' nowadays), then that would be fantastic.
I believe the preferred nomenclature on the BattleTech forums is 'Classic' (e.g., the 'Classic' Marauder, etc).
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2018/08/09 23:55:12
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
I know that. I chose them because they're somewhat more iconic than the Hankyu or Grendel.
I mean really if you wanted 4 more you'd include the Phantom, Pouncer, Linebacker and Naga, but the Kodiak is more fun!
Personally I'd go with the Kingfisher and the Shadow Cat or the Night Gyr.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2018/08/10 00:19:00
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
infinite_array wrote: My hope/dream is that the lance packs are re-released with the updated design mechs, even if it means a $5-$10 increase in price.
I can live with that too.
If this is how we get plastic re-pre-un-re-seen (I don't even know what we're meant to call that 'batch' nowadays), then that would be fantastic.
More fantastic however would be the classic invasion 'Mechs in Star Packs. There are 16 of them, which doesn't divide by 5, so let's add 4 more Clanners to the list (Kodiak, Turkina, Cauldron-Born, Hunchback IIC), and release them across 4 different boxes. That'd be worth $30-$40 each.
What if instead you did 3 boxes of 5 (15 mechs, sadly one will need to be cut. Hey let's have a vote!) And a box of 25 elementals?
2018/08/10 02:36:19
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
infinite_array wrote: My hope/dream is that the lance packs are re-released with the updated design mechs, even if it means a $5-$10 increase in price.
I can live with that too.
If this is how we get plastic re-pre-un-re-seen (I don't even know what we're meant to call that 'batch' nowadays), then that would be fantastic.
More fantastic however would be the classic invasion 'Mechs in Star Packs. There are 16 of them, which doesn't divide by 5, so let's add 4 more Clanners to the list (Kodiak, Turkina, Cauldron-Born, Hunchback IIC), and release them across 4 different boxes. That'd be worth $30-$40 each.
What if instead you did 3 boxes of 5 (15 mechs, sadly one will need to be cut. Hey let's have a vote!) And a box of 25 elementals?
If you vote for the original 16 losing one and the "winner" is not the Koshi, all voting rights should be taken away.
And as I have stated before, the 'Mechs in the new box will not be available anywhere else. It's how Catalyst wants to keep box sets in production and keep demand for those box sets.
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2018/08/10 02:39:33
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
Did I mention my intro to the BattleTech Universe was via the Jade Falcon Trilogy?
Seriosly though, I just pick the 'Mechs I like the look of or the weapon loadout best.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2018/08/10 03:03:29
Subject: Re:Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
Krugerannd wrote: Aw, I didn't even start with the whole jade falcon trilogy, I just had book 2 for 4 years by itself.
Book wise my first was book 2 of blood of Kerensky, my first exposure to Btech though was Crescant Hawk's inception when I was like... 6 I had no idea what was going on but blowing up mechs was a good time.
I got into Btech after reading BoK (Stackpole was a name I reckongized from his star wars stuff) and playing the mechwarrior games
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
2018/08/10 03:25:55
Subject: Re:Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
Ghaz wrote: Did I mention my intro to the BattleTech Universe was via the Jade Falcon Trilogy?
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.... I'm sorry
If it wasn't for those books, I would have never picked up the original Technical Readout 3050, which led me to the BattleTech game. That led me to my first miniature, the Ral Partha 'How to Paint BattleTech' kit with the AXM-2N Axeman. If it weren't for the Jade Falcon Trilogy, I might not have entered the wargaming hobby.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2018/08/10 03:45:35
Subject: Re:Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
Ghaz wrote: Did I mention my intro to the BattleTech Universe was via the Jade Falcon Trilogy?
.
.... I'm sorry
If it wasn't for those books, I would have never picked up the original Technical Readout 3050, which led me to the BattleTech game. That led me to my first miniature, the Ral Partha 'How to Paint BattleTech' kit with the AXM-2N Axeman. If it weren't for the Jade Falcon Trilogy, I might not have entered the wargaming hobby.
I was jesting, the jade pheonix trilogy is actually pretty good. I mean.. you didn't start reading "Star Lord" or... far country
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
2018/08/10 05:15:51
Subject: Re:Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
Ghaz wrote: Did I mention my intro to the BattleTech Universe was via the Jade Falcon Trilogy?
Seriosly though, I just pick the 'Mechs I like the look of or the weapon loadout best.
Well with the Night Gyr you picked a good 'un.
It's basically a 'Pocket Assault 'Mech'. Basically what happens if you take a Mad Cat and don't spend the tonnage to make it faster than IS Heavy 'Mechs, and use all that freed up space for more guns.
Ghaz wrote: Did I mention my intro to the BattleTech Universe was via the Jade Falcon Trilogy?
.
.... I'm sorry
If it wasn't for those books, I would have never picked up the original Technical Readout 3050, which led me to the BattleTech game. That led me to my first miniature, the Ral Partha 'How to Paint BattleTech' kit with the AXM-2N Axeman. If it weren't for the Jade Falcon Trilogy, I might not have entered the wargaming hobby.
So you would be rich now, is what you're saying
2018/08/10 09:59:33
Subject: Battletech - new starter sets coming soon
You Falcons should definitely read that new novella, The Anvil if you haven't already. It stars a genuinely good Jade Falcon fighting Lyrans.
Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
Gwar- "And everyone wants a bigger Spleen!"
Mercurial wrote:
I admire your aplomb and instate you as Baron of the Seas and Lord Marshall of Privateers.
Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
Orkeosaurus, on homophobia, the nature of homosexuality, and the greatness of George Takei.
English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleyways and mugs them for loose grammar.
or... far country 
