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 Mmmpi wrote:
I was able to order both boxes off of their website just a few days ago.

I'd rather not pay the cost of the two boxes all over again in shipping + customs, myself >_>.

Plus, it's DP9's "buy it from me, or from nowhere else" problem all over again. Is it because it's a giant robots game?

"It's not available!"
"It's available right here."
"But it's available in the wrong way!"

Be consistent people. Sheesh...

 Cannibal wrote:

 Mmmpi wrote:
I was able to order both boxes off of their website just a few days ago.

I don't know why I never thought of that... too obvious I guess? Anyway I just successfully ordered it from their website as well. Thanks!

I'm not sure if we should celebrate yet...It's been for days for me and I've yet to receive a tracking number...
On a 6-10 day delivery.


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 Albertorius wrote:

 Mmmpi wrote:
I was able to order both boxes off of their website just a few days ago.

I'd rather not pay the cost of the two boxes all over again in shipping + customs, myself >_>.

Plus, it's DP9's "buy it from me, or from nowhere else" problem all over again. Is it because it's a giant robots game?

Don't know what to tell you. I only really by from DP9 when I do because no one else carries it. In this case I only bought from Catalyst directly because everyone sold out.

While good at the time, they do get nicer and better looking.

The IWM mechs actually got worse. Buy a Dragon today and compare that to the Dragon model from was it 86 or 89... Yep, it's the same basic sculpt, except that they shaved off the surface detail off the old one. I guess that way the moulds wear off more slowly, but the newer model is much worse than the 30 year old model. I think they did that to the Atlas and the BLR at some point, too.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"It's not available!"
"It's available right here."
"But it's available in the wrong way!"

Be consistent people. Sheesh...

I would not consider "having to pay $60+ additional" to be "available" myself. I mean, that's kinda like saying "you can still buy if from eBay!"

Maybe saying "it's not available in my continent" would suffice?

Plus, of course, what I actually said was "I'd rather not pay the cost of the two boxes all over again in shipping + customs", not "it's available the wrong way!". If you want to nitpick, at least be precise. It's kinda like being consistent.

EDIT: So I've just gone and checked at their store. This is what they tell me the shipping will cost to my address:



So, box + shipping would cost about $120. Add to that VAT (21%, so another $25) and customs' "handling fee" (usually somewhere between 20 and 50 euros, so between $25 and $60, I think), and I would be paying between $17 and $205 for a $60 box... yeah, I think I won't

And that's of course, if I choose the cheapest shipping method of the two available.

...Yeah, I'd settle for "not available in my continent", thanks.

Those shipping prices are atrocious! Will there be some brave dakkaites offering intercontinental Battletech smuggling?

On the one hand a silly thing to be pinged for... but think of the nerd cred.

Luckily got a copy of the bigger box, some minor bending on models but overall really nice.

I'd love it if the entire 3025 range were redone to be like this, but I wont hold my breath.

I picked up some of the new books in the sale but will wait and see if anyone in the Uk stocks it as I already have 4 or 5 base sets from various ediitions

 Albertorius wrote:

So, box + shipping would cost about $120. Add to that VAT (21%, so another $25) and customs' "handling fee" (usually somewhere between 20 and 50 euros, so between $25 and $60, I think), and I would be paying between $17 and $205 for a $60 box... yeah, I think I won't

And that's of course, if I choose the cheapest shipping method of the two available.

...Yeah, I'd settle for "not available in my continent", thanks.

Yikes. That really sucks. I can see why home printing is a viable option in that case although you're at the mercy of whatever mechs the modellers online fancy making and releasing.

 MrDwhitey wrote:
Luckily got a copy of the bigger box, some minor bending on models but overall really nice.

I'd love it if the entire 3025 range were redone to be like this, but I wont hold my breath.

Would you mind posting a few pictures of the mechs? I haven't seen any close in detail shots of the ones that come in the big box yet.

Also when are these supposed to start shipping from retailers? I ordered one last week from the Warstore. It didn't say sold out at the time of purchase so I assume he still had stock.

Catalyst wrote:To Our Customers,

Catalyst Game Labs management is aware that copies of the BattleTech Beginner Box are running critically low both among our retail partners and on the company’s web store. Expecting this unprecedented demand, we have already taken aggressive action to restock this product.

A full reprint of the Beginner Box, of the same size as the initial order, has been completed overseas and is awaiting shipment during the first week of February. We are closely monitoring availability of the “A Game of Armored Combat” box.

Please note: both boxed sets remain in stock via the Catalyst web store as of this writing, and all orders placed while the boxes are in stock will be filled. When inventory runs out, the store will reflect that, and will not accept further orders until the product is back in stock. If you have questions about an order you have already placed, please email store@catalystgamelabs.com.

In addition, the popularity of the BattleTech and Shadowrun anniversary apparel has caused many sizes of both the t-shirt and hoodie for both lines to sell out. A robust re-order has been placed, and all sizes of these items should be back in stock in the next few weeks.

We will follow-up with more details as they become available. Thank you for your patience.

From their FB page.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Catalyst wrote:To Our Customers,

Catalyst Game Labs management is aware that copies of the BattleTech Beginner Box are running critically low both among our retail partners and on the company’s web store. Expecting this unprecedented demand, we have already taken aggressive action to restock this product.

A full reprint of the Beginner Box, of the same size as the initial order, has been completed overseas and is awaiting shipment during the first week of February. We are closely monitoring availability of the “A Game of Armored Combat” box.

Please note: both boxed sets remain in stock via the Catalyst web store as of this writing, and all orders placed while the boxes are in stock will be filled. When inventory runs out, the store will reflect that, and will not accept further orders until the product is back in stock. If you have questions about an order you have already placed, please email store@catalystgamelabs.com.

In addition, the popularity of the BattleTech and Shadowrun anniversary apparel has caused many sizes of both the t-shirt and hoodie for both lines to sell out. A robust re-order has been placed, and all sizes of these items should be back in stock in the next few weeks.

We will follow-up with more details as they become available. Thank you for your patience.

From their FB page.

Read that and honestly I think it's BS at this point. It took them how long to get the initial print out and suddenly they've done a second printing in a couple of weeks? Not buying it. I'm thinking either:

A: The manufacturer never shipped the entire first printing (which was part of the reason CGL sat on it after delivery) but decided to finally release it in low numbers and manage PR by claiming they're "taking the initiative" by taking stock of the remainder of the first printing
B: They severely underestimated demand and are now trying to cover their butts by looking like they're being proactive

Well, on the plus side, it looks like they still had stock when I ordered...
I hope.

Still haven't gotten a tracking number, or reply to the email I sent them.

 ancientsociety wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Catalyst wrote:To Our Customers,

Catalyst Game Labs management is aware that copies of the BattleTech Beginner Box are running critically low both among our retail partners and on the company’s web store. Expecting this unprecedented demand, we have already taken aggressive action to restock this product.

A full reprint of the Beginner Box, of the same size as the initial order, has been completed overseas and is awaiting shipment during the first week of February. We are closely monitoring availability of the “A Game of Armored Combat” box.

Please note: both boxed sets remain in stock via the Catalyst web store as of this writing, and all orders placed while the boxes are in stock will be filled. When inventory runs out, the store will reflect that, and will not accept further orders until the product is back in stock. If you have questions about an order you have already placed, please email store@catalystgamelabs.com.

In addition, the popularity of the BattleTech and Shadowrun anniversary apparel has caused many sizes of both the t-shirt and hoodie for both lines to sell out. A robust re-order has been placed, and all sizes of these items should be back in stock in the next few weeks.

We will follow-up with more details as they become available. Thank you for your patience.

From their FB page.

Read that and honestly I think it's BS at this point. It took them how long to get the initial print out and suddenly they've done a second printing in a couple of weeks? Not buying it. I'm thinking either:

A: The manufacturer never shipped the entire first printing (which was part of the reason CGL sat on it after delivery) but decided to finally release it in low numbers and manage PR by claiming they're "taking the initiative" by taking stock of the remainder of the first printing
B: They severely underestimated demand and are now trying to cover their butts by looking like they're being proactive

Something is very fishy here. You just can't just "order" up and then have them ship so soon. That is what I believe they even said (could have been another company who said it, been a while and got things mixed up) 5 years ago when people wanted the box sets, it's just not possible to do because of the demands those shops have, this has to be planned months if not a year in advance and then shipped so soon? You just can't place an order and have them made in a month. Catalyst said, that shipping can take 3 months (or is that Fantasy Flight Games said that?) anyways, shipping can't be done in a month or less I believe. So yeah if they have product delayed then it is answer A. If not and answer B, I can't see that even possible from what Catalyst or other companies have said.

I am believing the answer is B, and that they are just lying and will not get new product and hope they are like Bethesda, that some people will complain but it will ride over. Thing is, customers don't give companies breaks anymore. I believe those days are gone and if Catalyst is lying, they will pay for it. They can barely keep open now, I can't see how they can out ride the storm here. You can't keep selling to a small amount of people and keep surviving. Not if what Catalyst says how show string budget they are on. No way.

Something real fishy is going on and they should just say the truth.

B: They severely underestimated demand and are now trying to cover their butts by looking like they're being proactive

Catalyst is small, I could imagine that they needed the cash from the first print run to make more, i.e. no matter the demand, the first run was what they could pay for and that was it.

It's possible they ordered extra when they got the distributors pre-orders which basically ate up their entire production run

that would have been enough to indicate demand to them and make ordering more worth while and have given them enough time for a reprint to happen

Das_Ubermike wrote:

 MrDwhitey wrote:
Luckily got a copy of the bigger box, some minor bending on models but overall really nice.

I'd love it if the entire 3025 range were redone to be like this, but I wont hold my breath.

Would you mind posting a few pictures of the mechs? I haven't seen any close in detail shots of the ones that come in the big box yet.

Not good with photos sorry.

The Catapult's freakin' enormous. Having PlasTech flashbacks...

What is sad, is that Catalyst just made enough for the already fans they have, so there is no way they can bring in fresh blood.

Finally they have good miniatures but people will not know about it since they can't buy them. So no new blood for Catalyst. :(

 MrDwhitey wrote:

Das_Ubermike wrote:

 MrDwhitey wrote:
Luckily got a copy of the bigger box, some minor bending on models but overall really nice.

I'd love it if the entire 3025 range were redone to be like this, but I wont hold my breath.

Would you mind posting a few pictures of the mechs? I haven't seen any close in detail shots of the ones that come in the big box yet.

Not good with photos sorry.

Those're great. Thanks buddy. Wasn't sure if we were getting the better looking (in my opinion at any rate) MWO design style mechs, or a continuation of the unfortunate IWM style mechs. Glad to see they're more in the Warhansa/MWO aesthetic. Thanks again!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Catapult's freakin' enormous. Having PlasTech flashbacks...

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I always thought the larger chassis made sense. Got to store all that ammo somewhere. Plus, the FatTech 'Pault is adorable.

Das_Ubermike wrote:
Those're great. Thanks buddy. Wasn't sure if we were getting the better looking (in my opinion at any rate) MWO design style mechs, or a continuation of the unfortunate IWM style mechs. Glad to see they're more in the Warhansa/MWO aesthetic. Thanks again!

CGL can't legally use the MWO designs and don't allow artwork based on them on their forums. Those models are based on original artwork commisioned by CGL. Also note that the miniatures produced by IWM are based on artwork produced by FASA or CGL and are not their own designs.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Catapult's freakin' enormous. Having PlasTech flashbacks...

It's a tad overbearing but it's hardly fatapult territory...

/eyetwitch

Ok, I'm getting flashbacks too. Thanks a bunch!

I ordered the Beginner Box and the Not-Beginner Box direct from Catalyst about a week ago, and just got the shipping notice today. I'm looking forward to introducing my son to some old-school mecha combat.

FYI I got a tracking number today from Catalyst for the starter box.

 JoshInJapan wrote:
I ordered the Beginner Box and the Not-Beginner Box direct from Catalyst about a week ago, and just got the shipping notice today. I'm looking forward to introducing my son to some old-school mecha combat.

Oh nice, how bad was the postage to Japan?

M.

What I'm surprised at they never got some of wiz-kids clix molds, the paintjobs weren't the best but the models were ok
They could have included infantry and vehicles in plastic

 dekinrie wrote:
What I'm surprised at they never got some of wiz-kids clix molds, the paintjobs weren't the best but the models were ok
They could have included infantry and vehicles in plastic

Completely different company and completely different scale. Battletech is in 1/295 while Mechwarrior was in 1/160. The smallest of the Mechwarrior Clix mechs was still a bit of a giant compared to the very biggest Battletech miniatures.

 Miguelsan wrote:

 JoshInJapan wrote:
I ordered the Beginner Box and the Not-Beginner Box direct from Catalyst about a week ago, and just got the shipping notice today. I'm looking forward to introducing my son to some old-school mecha combat.

Oh nice, how bad was the postage to Japan?

M.

Not the person you asked, but it sucks. I got both sets and the shipping was 60% of the total price. Plus it took them 10 days to send me a damned tracking number. 2 business days left before I let them know I'm pissed about it.

Really wish they would update the sculpts, would really increase their appeal imo.