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so ive been pretty deep into the 40k lore for awhile now and ive wanted to give the game a shot but I literally have no clue whatsoever on where to start. like legit no clue. I dont know where you buy the models and terrains and what not, ive only ever even played a table top games a couple times before (ive played d and d with friends once or twice) So I have no idea how any of this works. I have no no one to play it with because none of my friends play it and I have no Idea where or how to find people who do. im literally completely lost in every way imaginable. not to mention I really dont wanna have to paint models cuase I have the artistic skills of a snotling on LSD. the only thing I do know is what faction I wanna create a Army out of of and a general idea of what I want the compostion of that army to be specifically a Tau army with a heavy focus on the taus empires various non tau races. thats literally all i got. help????
   
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Rust belt

Use the store finder on Dakka and find the nearest shop in your area and try to schedule a demo game. Also most shops have a FB page or twitter account that can get you in contact with local players.
   
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Norn Queen






See if you can find a local GW store or FLGS to get a demo game.

I will warn you though, Tau Auxiliaries are in a very bad place right now, they are grossly sub-par compared to the rest of the codex. However, if you think Kroot and Vespid are cool, do Kroot and Vespid! Sadly you lack a HQ so you can't make a totally Auxiliary army right now.

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 BaconCatBug wrote:
See if you can find a local GW store to get a demo game.

I will warn you though, Tau Auxiliaries are in a very bad place right now, they are grossly sub-par compared to the rest of the codex. However, if you think Kroot and Vespid are cool, do Kroot and Vespid! Sadly you lack a HQ so you can't make a totally Auxiliary army right now.


not just kroot and vespid but also guevasa and im fairly certain ive seen pics of demiurg models before. are those a thing or is my memory failing me? also HQ???? what does that mean. when I said i knew nothing I mean I know NOTHING!! about the game mechanics.
   
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Southampton, UK

There isn't a leader model for the auxiliaries, which you need to make a valid army.

There are no rules or models that I am aware of for guevasa or demiurg either I'm afraid. Literally just kroot and vespids.
   
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Crispy78 wrote:
There isn't a leader model for the auxiliaries, which you need to make a valid army.

There are no rules or models that I am aware of for guevasa or demiurg either I'm afraid. Literally just kroot and vespids.


well ive heard is a pretty simple process to convert regular IG into guevesa so not too worried about the lack of official guevesa. think I could convert squats into demiurg? why does GW keep giving us cool auxillaries without models? Do you know how cool fielding nicassar psykers would probably be?

do shapers and stingwing leaders not count as leader units? or do they just not have units?
   
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Well there are many other store finders but this is GW's https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/store/storefinder.jsp

As for finding a group to play with you can just ask at your Friendly Local Gaming Store (FLGS) if they have a day specifically for 40K, Facebook search for 40K and the name of the local area i.e. 40K Charlotte, Fort Walton Beach etc... and when you do go to a store for a game day be willing to just walk up to people with 40K stuff and ask if they want to play unless people are already waiting to play some else your not likely to be turned down.
   
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dkoz wrote:
Well there are many other store finders but this is GW's https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/store/storefinder.jsp

As for finding a group to play with you can just ask at your Friendly Local Gaming Store (FLGS) if they have a day specifically for 40K, Facebook search for 40K and the name of the local area i.e. 40K Charlotte, Fort Walton Beach etc... and when you do go to a store for a game day be willing to just walk up to people with 40K stuff and ask if they want to play unless people are already waiting to play some else your not likely to be turned down.


would they just let me use thier units or would I have to buy my own first?
   
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Southampton, UK

chimera0205 wrote:
Crispy78 wrote:
There isn't a leader model for the auxiliaries, which you need to make a valid army.

There are no rules or models that I am aware of for guevasa or demiurg either I'm afraid. Literally just kroot and vespids.


well ive heard is a pretty simple process to convert regular IG into guevesa so not too worried about the lack of official guevesa. think I could convert squats into demiurg? why does GW keep giving us cool auxillaries without models? Do you know how cool fielding nicassar psykers would probably be?

do shapers and stingwing leaders not count as leader units? or do they just not have units?


Yeah, you could make them out of IG with a few Tau bits, and just use the rules for regular Fire Warriors or something.

Um, you may not know... Squats were removed from the game about 20 years ago... There haven't been any models or rules since then.

There is a Kroot Shaper, but it counts as an Elite unit choice, not an HQ. You can also get a Strain Leader within a squad of Stingwings, but that just counts as a squad leader / sergeant type character - not an army general type of thing.

Worth a read: https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics(8E)#Listbuilding_101

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Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry

GW stores usually allow the use of any GW-sold models. Counts-As is good for them, as you show intent to buy the official models at some point.
But, GW models only for most GW stores.
Wherever you go, arrange for a demo game, and they'll probably get some stock models out for you to learn with.
To go with the GW-store finder, there's Dakka's own:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/core/store_finder.jsp

Other stores though, have their own rules. If you have a store or club to play at, follow their restrictions on which models they want you to use.
As mentioned, there's a reason for the term "squatted"

As for getting started, you will eventually want to get:
40k current edition Rulebook, (8th so far),
Codex for your army,
Chapter Approved for changes to the rules,
Downloaded FAQs for all your books, from the GW website,
Tape measure, dice, etc, as listed in the rule book.

If you end up gaming at home, you'll need a table and scenery.

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Rules Primer: https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/40k/warhammer_40000_en.pdf. This explains the basic operations that happen during the game.

The full rules are contained in the Warhammer 40000 8th edition rulebook, which contains lots of fluff, as well as the rules for three different kinds of play (the kind called Matched Play is most common, and is the competitive play rules that strives to balance armies), the rules for terrain, scenarios with victory conditions, etcetera.

Each army has its own Codex. This is where you find the statistics and special rules for each kind of unit for that army. Note that some units are made by Games Workshop's resin casting company called Forge World, and they have their own, additional unit entries not contained in the Codex. In the current Tau codex, the only auxiliaries supported are Kroot (Kroot Carnivores, Kroot Shapers, Krootox and Kroot Hounds) and Vespid. Vespid and Kroot Hounds are considered good units, while Kroot Carnivores aren't bad, but aren't really good either. They get to deploy closer to the enemy than is normal, but die like flies due to their low armor save. You can build a very big army of them and rely on numbers to carry the day, however.

Every army has units labeled by role: HQ (leaders who buff units or do special things), Elites (expensive units with special rules and weapons), Troops (regular soldiers, though in 40K they can get quite weird), Fast Attack (speedy units), Heavy Support (Tanks, big guns), Flyer (airborne gunships), Lord of War (REALLY big guns or special characters), and Fortifications (bunkers, gun emplacements).

Armies get special bonuses by being Battleforged, which means that they have taken units to fill detachments. For example, a Patrol Detachment must have 1 HQ and 1 Troop unit, but can have as much as 2 HQ, 3 Troop, 2 Elite, 2 Fast Attack, 2 Heavy Support, 2 Flyers. All those units must come from the same army - generally the same codex, but again some Forge World units can fit in. They have a system of key words that tells you what army a unit belongs to. For example, a Tau Ethereal has the Tau keyword, so they can lead a Kroot army, as Kroot Carnivores/etc also have the Tau keyword. You'll want to build your army in a Battleforged fashion, and almost every detachment requires HQ units.

When buying stuff, be aware that GW generally charges more than online retailers or local stores. Online stores are limited to a 15% discount, while brick and mortar stores can have larger discounts. GW's hobby supplies (paint, glue, brushes, tools) are especially overpriced. Any good gaming store will have cheaper, better options, though GW paint is pretty good and reliably available everywhere. Stuff you'll need:

Small clippers for removing plastic from sprues (any hardware store)
X-Acto knife for trimming plastic and mold lines (a mold line removal tool works as well)
Plastic glue/cement for putting minis together (superglue variants also work, but plastic cement welds the plastic together), any hobby retailer sells it.
Hobby grit - for adding texture to bases. Optional, and there are many options for basing texture (tuft, flock, cork, etc).
Acrylic Primer - spray cans are the easiest, but brush primer is available too. GW's primers are good but expensive, there are many cheaper options.
Paints - GW paint is reliably available and my main reason for recommending it. Vajello and Reaper make better paints but can be harder to come by.
Varnish/Sealer - after painting, you seal the mini to prevent wear and/or chipping. Varnishes are available in matte, gloss or satin, and most players go for a satin finish.



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Regarding painting, watch a few You Tube tutorial videos. It's actually not that hard to paint minis to a "table top" standard.

Undercoat with spray paint
Base coat with a brush
Add details
Paint the base
Add flocking to the base
Done
   
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chimera0205 wrote:
dkoz wrote:
Well there are many other store finders but this is GW's https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/store/storefinder.jsp

As for finding a group to play with you can just ask at your Friendly Local Gaming Store (FLGS) if they have a day specifically for 40K, Facebook search for 40K and the name of the local area i.e. 40K Charlotte, Fort Walton Beach etc... and when you do go to a store for a game day be willing to just walk up to people with 40K stuff and ask if they want to play unless people are already waiting to play some else your not likely to be turned down.


would they just let me use thier units or would I have to buy my own first?


chimera0205 wrote:
dkoz wrote:
Well there are many other store finders but this is GW's https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/store/storefinder.jsp

As for finding a group to play with you can just ask at your Friendly Local Gaming Store (FLGS) if they have a day specifically for 40K, Facebook search for 40K and the name of the local area i.e. 40K Charlotte, Fort Walton Beach etc... and when you do go to a store for a game day be willing to just walk up to people with 40K stuff and ask if they want to play unless people are already waiting to play some else your not likely to be turned down.


would they just let me use thier units or would I have to buy my own first?


Well when I first started I was lucky enough that one of the guys I ran RPGs with from my FLGS had a couple of army's so he did let me us one of his extra when we played a few times. I've also seen people with a lot of models be more than willing to let their opponents use some when they are learning.
   
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Seriously, painting's not that difficult. I was terrified of ruining my models but after watching a few Internet tutorials my minis look as good as any displayed in my local store. It's all about the time and effort as the process is very forgiving.

I'd recommend sonic sledgehammer for quickly getting guys on the table.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG0ZCl2VfG9PcCJyucWJR3w
   
 
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