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craggy wrote:
The poop codex? I mean... Its gotta be Death Guard, right? I mean, from a fluff standpoint.

Well done, craggy

 Quickjager wrote:
My fething eyes, that format.

Looks like a pretty basic list that creates a very large spread out footprint on the board. with a Jumppack LIbby to supercharge a GMNDK or BA Captain.

I'm just not sure there is actually a good list this counters.

It's not a good list. But, it probably played and won one game, hence the rating. Maybe it's there to screw over Poxwalkers and Cultists based Death Guard?

Okay so - crazy talk time. Feel free to disagree with me. I would much rather bring pure GK to a game than pure Ultras. You've just got a lot better match ups.

This list for example.

GMDK Psycannon Psilencer teleporter and sword
Voldus

10 strikes hammer
10 strikes hammer
10 strikes hammer
10 strikes hammer
5 strikes
5 strikes


3x razors with twin AC and HKM

That list kills about 120 cultists a turn in just shooting. It completely shuts down their psychic phase too. It would rofl stomp these cultist lists.


Plenty of powerful list would also burn this list. NP.
It's got some really good matchups against powerful armies though.

I just don't see it as threatening, sorry. You're spending 840 points for 160 dice at most if ALL of them end up in Rapid Fire range and none die before getting to shoot.

For instance, if this worked, Devourer Termagants /w a Trygon would be the ultimate hotness, as it puts out 180 shots at 18" (with Single Minded Annihilation). And, Termagants with a Trygon aren't viable anymore at all after beta changes.

We just don't know what list this beat. My guess is it was something pretty mediocre.

 Marmatag wrote:
I just don't see it as threatening, sorry. You're spending 840 points for 160 dice at most if ALL of them end up in Rapid Fire range and none die before getting to shoot.

For instance, if this worked, Devourer Termagants /w a Trygon would be the ultimate hotness, as it puts out 180 shots at 18" (with Single Minded Annihilation). And, Termagants with a Trygon aren't viable anymore at all after beta changes.

We just don't know what list this beat. My guess is it was something pretty mediocre.

Most likely.

Not disagreeing with you. It's not a strong list - it's not gonna win tournaments. It could dominate some games though.

I've done the devil gaunt thing. It's easily countered - Intercept stratagem totally destroys it out of a trygon. At best you are shooting a unit they don't care about - and now it's turn 2!. Even Admech or marines can kill half the unit before it gets to shoot - eldar NP. It has more raw firepower than strikes for it's cost. It also dies from getting coughed at. In the next turn. If you deep struck 40 strikes - they aren't going to get blown away by intercept and they would probably kill almost every infantry in their army.


Before the beta rules I ran this list or some variation of it and it had a lot of success. Mostly because of the alpha strike.

The GK are a beta ruling away from almost being viable. Space marines are just trash.

 SHUPPET wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

jcd386 wrote:
Let's put aside any disagreement for a moment and just marvel at how terrible that amy list format is.

That's what happens when you copy paste from Battlescribe. I LOVE Battlescribe but it makes some of you guys super lazy.

I use battle scribe to make lists sometimes - but if I am going to post a list to Dakka... I just type it out. We aren't supposed to post points anyways.

I entirely agree. Battlescribe does not give good formatting, peoples laziness is atrocious, it's so much easier to read if you just type it out.

Well I think it formats fine when you're looking at it on the program, but when it comes to posting on here you need to type everything out for simplicity's sake.

 Xenomancers wrote:
Okay so - crazy talk time. Feel free to disagree with me. I would much rather bring pure GK to a game than pure Ultras. You've just got a lot better match ups.

This list for example.

GMDK Psycannon Psilencer teleporter and sword
Voldus

10 strikes hammer
10 strikes hammer
10 strikes hammer
10 strikes hammer
5 strikes
5 strikes


3x razors with twin AC and HKM

That list kills about 120 cultists a turn in just shooting. It completely shuts down their psychic phase too. It would rofl stomp these cultist lists.


Plenty of powerful list would also burn this list. NP.
It's got some really good matchups against powerful armies though.

Lol. Well, OK I definitely do disagree with that. Phew.