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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
As a big fan of Robert Meyer Burnett, I tend to take what he says about Star Trek seriously.

He generally hates all new Star Trek, from the JJ films, to Discovery, and he even has disdain for Strange New Worlds. He did not like Picard season 1. He hated Picard season 2.

He's seen season 3, and he says it's fantastic.



Any opinions from him on Lower Decks or Prodigy out of random curiosity?

 
   
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Finally got Paramount+ and have been enjoying Strange New Worlds. So far my only complaint has been what they chose as what started WW3.



That and Ortegas' haircut.

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 Just Tony wrote:
Finally got Paramount+ and have been enjoying Strange New Worlds. So far my only complaint has been what they chose as what started WW3.



That and Ortegas' haircut.


Fortunately, moments like that are few and far between unlike other series. Out of the all the live action series, this is the best in that it actually is just mostly nonoffensive and competent... basically a modern day Voyager. The flip side is that I don't think it had any particularly good stand out episodes either personally. Plotwise I didn't have any major gripes with it except for one major development with my favorite character that I won't spoil for you.

The haircut stays though.

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The only episode I hated was the Alien ripoff. The rest are generally pretty decent Trek.

 
   
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 AduroT wrote:
The only episode I hated was the Alien ripoff. The rest are generally pretty decent Trek.


You mean The Gorn? Ya, I was excited to have The Gorn come in as a villain but that was a really weird take on them. Don't see them as a this weird parasitic species. I think y\they should have just come up with a new alien if they wanted to do this. I know in the books they really fleshed out The Gorn in the Typhon Pact series but I haven't read them. If they are like that in those books then I could see where they got it from. If not, then I don't think it was the right take on The Gorn.

 
   
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 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
 AduroT wrote:
The only episode I hated was the Alien ripoff. The rest are generally pretty decent Trek.


You mean The Gorn? Ya, I was excited to have The Gorn come in as a villain but that was a really weird take on them. Don't see them as a this weird parasitic species. I think y\they should have just come up with a new alien if they wanted to do this. I know in the books they really fleshed out The Gorn in the Typhon Pact series but I haven't read them. If they are like that in those books then I could see where they got it from. If not, then I don't think it was the right take on The Gorn.


My biggest problem with that episode was what they did with my favorite character and the stupidity of the writers in not seeing the Planet Killer sized plot hole in their writing. The whole episode was the TV equivalent of a first time GM trying to run a horror RPG session with only one day's prep.

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 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
 AduroT wrote:
The only episode I hated was the Alien ripoff. The rest are generally pretty decent Trek.


You mean The Gorn? Ya, I was excited to have The Gorn come in as a villain but that was a really weird take on them. Don't see them as a this weird parasitic species. I think y\they should have just come up with a new alien if they wanted to do this. I know in the books they really fleshed out The Gorn in the Typhon Pact series but I haven't read them. If they are like that in those books then I could see where they got it from. If not, then I don't think it was the right take on The Gorn.


They are not like that in the book.

   
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The Gorn were a disappointment. When they were introduced I was excited to see their version of them and updated effects for their appearance, but what we got was poor. Hyper advanced ships that are nigh unbeatable in combat but which communicate via maritime signal lights, and in person just a xenomorph lizard.

 
   
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Torn are now horror monsters? Seems to undermine the point behind Arena.

   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Torn are now horror monsters? Seems to undermine the point behind Arena.


Basically xenomorphs from Alien.

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 warboss wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Torn are now horror monsters? Seems to undermine the point behind Arena.


Basically xenomorphs from Alien.


But they skip the whole queen/egg/facehugger part and just spit on you, instantly impregnating you.

 
   
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 AduroT wrote:
 warboss wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Torn are now horror monsters? Seems to undermine the point behind Arena.


Basically xenomorphs from Alien.


But they skip the whole queen/egg/facehugger part and just spit on you, instantly impregnating you.


By definition, it's not spit if it's impregnating you but rather a different bodily fluid. Money shot! #moderntrekwriting

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I have not been watching Strange New Worlds as we do not have Paramount+. I had been hearing such good things about SNW and I like Anson Mount so I felt like I was missing… this thread just got me to look at some Gorn related clips from SNW on YouTube. Wow! That is really, really disappointing. I quite liked the Gorn previously, both in TOS and Star Trek Online. Now? Um. No. Talk about blending Star Trek, Alien and Predator. Ugh. New Star Trek, disappointing me yet again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VHELLt3CR0

Edit: Foolishly perhaps, I thought Paramount was going to follow the lore established by Star Trek Online.

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It’s a shame because most everything else in the series has been rather good. My only other complaint is how quickly they resolve
Spoiler:
the doctor’s daughter.

 
   
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Yes, overall Strange New Worlds has been good except for turning The Gorn into the Xenomorphs (not even the xenomorphs from Alien - the Xenomorphs from Prometheus and Alien: Covenant). Surprisingly, the most memorable episode what the Freaky Friday episode with Spock and his Fiancé. It was the kind of episode they don't make anymore. The Galaxy didn't even explode in it but it was a reminder of a simpler time in Trek where they would just do a lighter episode for character development. I guess that's considered high-risk now.


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 AduroT wrote:
The Gorn were a disappointment. When they were introduced I was excited to see their version of them and updated effects for their appearance, but what we got was poor. Hyper advanced ships that are nigh unbeatable in combat but which communicate via maritime signal lights, and in person just a xenomorph lizard.


Yes, I don't know if anyone played this video game (apparently not many did) but after the JJ Abrams movie there was a poorly received video game that starred The Gorn as the villains. I thought the game was ok but that version of The Gorn was cool and would have made good movie or TV Villains.

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 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Yes, overall Strange New Worlds has been good except for turning The Gorn into the Xenomorphs (not even the xenomorphs from Alien - the Xenomorphs from Prometheus and Alien: Covenant). Surprisingly, the most memorable episode what the Freaky Friday episode with Spock and his Fiancé. It was the kind of episode they don't make anymore. The Galaxy didn't even explode in it but it was a reminder of a simpler time in Trek where they would just do a lighter episode for character development. I guess that's considered high-risk now.


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 AduroT wrote:
The Gorn were a disappointment. When they were introduced I was excited to see their version of them and updated effects for their appearance, but what we got was poor. Hyper advanced ships that are nigh unbeatable in combat but which communicate via maritime signal lights, and in person just a xenomorph lizard.


Yes, I don't know if anyone played this video game (apparently not many did) but after the JJ Abrams movie there was a poorly received video game that starred The Gorn as the villains. I thought the game was ok but that version of The Gorn was cool and would have made good movie or TV Villains.



My daughter and I just replayed that game a few months ago. I quite unironically like it.

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Dave Cullen's non-spoiler thoughts on the first six seasons. Along with RMB, he's also positive in his reception so far though he hasn't seen everything (thrice) like Robert.




I think I'm going to take his advice and wait. Season 3 will still be there after its finale and I can watch it during a free preview week if they still have them then.

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It's not airing on Prime anymore nayways, so I was planning to wait regardless.

Not that I finished S2 either, mind...
   
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 Albertorius wrote:
It's not airing on Prime anymore nayways, so I was planning to wait regardless.

Not that I finished S2 either, mind...


I wouldnt bother with S2 - its poor at best in every respect. There is the odd spark but its few and far between.

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S3 should be landing on Paramount+ tomorrow.

I for one am somewhat hype.

   
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That was Incredibly convenient timing by Raffi. Also what are we thinking, is that Picard’s?

 
   
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Not up in the U.K. yet :(

   
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That’s why I kept it incredibly vague!

 
   
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Was a general moan 😂

Honestly. It’s like being back in the 90’s this!

   
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 AduroT wrote:
That was Incredibly convenient timing by Raffi. Also what are we thinking, is that Picard’s?

Ughh is she still in it. Shame - such an awful character

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I really rather enjoyed that.

Spoiler:
Distinct Kirk and Bones vibe from Picard and Riker respectively. 7 seeming a bit Spock.

General vibes of Search for Spock. In a good way. Not ‘Member Berries as such. More wholesome. But I feel opinions will vary and, as ever, fair enough on that.

   
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Heard a good review of Picard Season 3 on NPR.

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Huh. It's on Prime again.

Alright then.
   
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I tried to watch it, but it's just so poorly lit. I do not enjoy watching a mostly dark screen. Glad to hear it's better than previous seasons.
   
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So far, the opener lets anyone who didn’t watch S1 and 2 jump straight on in.

I say so far. The entire episode is like that. Hopefully the season will follow.

Missed it on the first watch….

Spoiler:
The Red Lady was a statue of Captain Rachel Garrett, Captain of the ill fated Enterprise-C.

The same Enterprise-C that engaged Romulan attacking a Klingon Outpost/Colony. The crew’s bravery is why The Klingon Empire reconsidered their relationship with The Federation.

It’s also how Sela, daughter of Tasha Yarr came to be. Tasha Yard’s Half Romulan daughter.

Sela. Sela is the villain. With Romulans in tatters, she’s making a statement.



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Further further thoughts (one day I’ll put them all in the same post at the same time. Probably.)

Spoiler:
On my earlier comment about Picard and Riker echoing elder Kirk and McCoy.

Kirk and McCoy returned to the Big Screen at a time when TNG itself had begun airing. And as a result, we got two kind of different Federations.

Kirk’s era was a bit more devil-may-care, gung ho. Go out there, face down the threat, win the day, get the girl.

Picard’s era was more political. As The Federation expanded, it gained serious muscle, but also wisdom to know you don’t have to fight your way out of a given situation. It was heavy on diplomacy and political niceties.

Now we’re seeing Picard dealing with the Federation changing once again. The stick in the mud Captain, who in turn echoes the Excelsior’s original Captain, is a bit of a knob. Not easily cowed. Maybe a bit too sure of himself. Definitely arrogant and seemingly unpleasant. I dare say he’d never have have made Captain in Kirk or Picard’s respective heydays.

I’m hoping they continue that feel, and indeed carry it off. Echoes I’m here for. Rehash, well I’ll still watch, but not as favourably.

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