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Apologies in advance if this has been asked a million times but I could not find a definite answer. How many shots would a gun drone shoot with the fireblades buff, 5 because 4 normally and the fireblade allows one extra shot per model. Or 6 because he gives one extra shot per gun being fired per model.


(edit: The FAQ makes this more ambiguous for me as "It means the player can make one more hit roll for each model." Seems to have different implications then

From the Codex T'au Empire FAQ:

Q: With regards the Cadre Fireblade’s Volley Fire ability, what exactly is meant by ‘may fire an extra shot’?

A: It means the player can make one more hit roll for each model.

 Ghaz wrote:
From the Codex T'au Empire FAQ:

Q: With regards the Cadre Fireblade’s Volley Fire ability, what exactly is meant by ‘may fire an extra shot’?

A: It means the player can make one more hit roll for each model.

That [for me] is ambiguous; because the faq doesnt replace the codex volley fire rule (it cant, it does not even refer to pulse weapons) but is amending what is meant by an extra shot. The codex says units can fire an extra shot with each pulse weapon, so the answer is 6? because it allows for one extra hit roll per model but each model is getting 2 extra shots so to speak because it has 2 pulse carbines?

Ozomoto wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
From the Codex T'au Empire FAQ:

Q: With regards the Cadre Fireblade’s Volley Fire ability, what exactly is meant by ‘may fire an extra shot’?

A: It means the player can make one more hit roll for each model.

That [for me] is ambiguous; because the faq doesnt replace the codex volley fire rule (it cant, it does not even refer to pulse weapons) but is amending what is meant by an extra shot. The codex says units can fire an extra shot with each pulse weapon, so the answer is 6? because it allows for one extra hit roll per model but each model is getting 2 extra shots so to speak because it has 2 pulse carbines?

The rule says that models may fire an extra shot with pulse weapons. Therefore, each model, gets X+1 shots, where X is the total number of shots the model normally gets.

Fireblade's aura is triggered when a model is in range of it and shooting certain weapons at that weapon's half range.

The Drone model has two pulse carbines, each has a base of 2 shots. Fireblade's aura should make that 3 shots at half range for each gun fired.

But, with the FAQ, it limits it to a single extra shot per model.

I think the problem is, which might have caused the FAQ question to begin with is that everyone fast dices the guns as if it was a single gun with 4 shots.

This is what is known as a "Special Snowflake FAQ", one that ignores clear RaW because GW are too lazy to write rules properly.

You should be getting X+1 for each weapon you fire, but the FAQ overrides that.

The model gets to fire an extra shot. That extra shot must be with a pulse weapon.

It does not say each weapon increases its shots by 1. Its not a special snow flake. Its a misinterpretation on behalf of the readers by assumeing that just because things with pulse weapons generally have ONLY a single pulse weapon that when this model gets 2 weapons the effect would double. The rule is not worded that way.

 Lance845 wrote:
The model gets to fire an extra shot. That extra shot must be with a pulse weapon.

It does not say each weapon increases its shots by 1. Its not a special snow flake. Its a misinterpretation on behalf of the readers by assumeing that just because things with pulse weapons generally have ONLY a single pulse weapon that when this model gets 2 weapons the effect would double. The rule is not worded that way.

It does not say each model gets to fire a shot.

Volley Fire: Models in <Sept> units within 6" of any friendly <SEPT> Cadre Fireblades may fire an extra shot with pulse pistols, pulse carbines and pulse rifles when shooting at a target within half the weapon’s range.

It says "models [...] may fire an extra shot with" the weapons listed. If a model has two of the weapons listed, it should get to fire an extra shot with each.

I'd have to say only 1 extra shot as it does say model (using the plural, models, simply represents more than 1 model is possible) a fireblade is a single model, not multiple models, therefore only gets +1. Not +1 for each weapon.

Indeed, it’s not ‘special snowflake’ (vomits at continued use of that crappy term) at all, its clarification they meant one shot not one per gun. Doesn’t change the RAW, just reinforces which interpretation they meant. But you go ahead, protest whatever doesn’t fit your agenda...

I'd have to agree with BCB here. It's a SSF for clarifying poorly written rule.

I can agree that it's poorly written because its very easy to read it either way. But the FAQ CLEARLY clarifies that the correct reading is that the fireblades buff grants 1 extra shot that has to be with a pulse weapon.

The OP has his/her answer and post FAQ it is no longer ambiguous at all. A drone would get 5 total shots. Not 6.

 Lance845 wrote:
I can agree that it's poorly written because its very easy to read it either way. But the FAQ CLEARLY clarifies that the correct reading is that the fireblades buff grants 1 extra shot that has to be with a pulse weapon.

The OP has his/her answer and post FAQ it is no longer ambiguous at all. A drone would get 5 total shots. Not 6.

Or 3 and 2 if targeting two different units.