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++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [25 PL, 497pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Relics of the Thousand Sons (1 Relic)

+ HQ +

Ahriman [7 PL, 131pts]: Death Hex, Diabolic Strength, Tzeentch's Firestorm, Weaver of Fates

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch [9 PL, 183pts]: Gaze of Fate, Glamour of Tzeentch, Helm of the Third Eye, Malefic talon, Warp bolter, Wings

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch [9 PL, 183pts]: Daemonic axe, Temporal Manipulation, Warp bolter, Warptime, Wings

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [65 PL, 1155pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: 6. Arch-Contaminator, Malefic talon, The Suppurating Plate, Warlord, Wings

Typhus [9 PL, 175pts]: 1. Miasma of Pestilence, 5. Putrescent Vitality

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 96pts]: 16x Poxwalker

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 90pts]: 15x Poxwalker

+ Elites +

Foul Blightspawn [4 PL, 77pts]

Foul Blightspawn [4 PL, 77pts]

+ Heavy Support +

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Chaos - Questor Traitoris) [18 PL, 348pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

Renegade Armigers [18 PL, 348pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

++ Total: [108 PL, 2000pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

Where is the third superheavy for the superheavy detachment? I see only 2 helverins there btw close to a list i would try, no poxwalkers and blightspawn but 1 more helverin and +3 nurglings

The two together take up one slot

 blackmage wrote:
Where is the third superheavy for the superheavy detachment? I see only 2 helverins there btw close to a list i would try, no poxwalkers and blightspawn but 1 more helverin and +3 nurglings

I only have two helverins, otherwise this may work!

I drew up an alternative list:

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Daemons) [46 PL, 881pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Chaos Allegiance: Nurgle

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Chaos [9 PL, 180pts]: Hellforged sword, Nurgle, Wings

Daemon Prince of Chaos [9 PL, 180pts]: Malefic talon, Wings

Poxbringer [4 PL, 70pts]

+ Troops +

Nurglings [6 PL, 108pts]: 6x Nurgling Swarms

Nurglings [6 PL, 108pts]: 6x Nurgling Swarms

Plaguebearers [12 PL, 235pts]: Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos, 29x Plaguebearer, Plagueridden

++ Questor Traitoris Super-Heavy Detachment (Chaos - Questor Traitoris) [18 PL, 348pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

Renegade Armigers [18 PL, 348pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [41 PL, 754pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: Malefic talon, Wings

+ Elites +

Foul Blightspawn [4 PL, 77pts]

Foul Blightspawn [4 PL, 77pts]

+ Heavy Support +

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

++ Total: [105 PL, 1983pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

This requires me to make a bunch of temp nurgling bases because i have objectives i made but never use atm


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swanson4969 wrote:
The two together take up one slot

Yes. I did this to lower my drops by 1. Not that it matters much, this list has a lot of drops.:(

dont you like Don Hooson list or just you dont have all the models?

 blackmage wrote:
dont you like Don Hooson list or just you dont have all the models?

Don't have the models, plus ITC format just changed in a big way. Plus, Don practiced for a while using his list, it isn't a "netlist and win" kind of list.

Don's list is very similar to my own that I posted here months before. The major difference was he used terminators instead of feculant + bearers. His might have been the better choice, but the bearers have been earning their keep in mine quite well.

valdier wrote:
Don's list is very similar to my own that I posted here months before. The major difference was he used terminators instead of feculant + bearers. His might have been the better choice, but the bearers have been earning their keep in mine quite well.

yes that's what i would prefer to play


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Daemons) [32 PL, 560pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Chaos Allegiance: Nurgle

+ HQ +

Poxbringer [4 PL, 70pts]: Miasma of Pestilence

Spoilpox Scrivener [4 PL, 75pts]

+ Troops +

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Nurglings [6 PL, 72pts]: 4x Nurgling Swarms

Plaguebearers [12 PL, 235pts]: Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos, 29x Plaguebearer, Plagueridden

++ Super-Heavy Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Questor Traitoris) [43 PL, 837pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

Renegade Armigers [9 PL, 174pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

Renegade Armigers [9 PL, 174pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

Renegade Knight [25 PL, 489pts]: Heavy stubber, Ironstorm Missile Pod
. Avenger gatling cannon and heavy flamer: Avenger gatling cannon, Heavy flamer
. Avenger gatling cannon and heavy flamer: Avenger gatling cannon, Heavy flamer

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [33 PL, 600pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: 4. Blades of Putrefaction, 6. Arch-Contaminator, Malefic talon, The Suppurating Plate, Warlord, Wings

+ Heavy Support +

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

++ Total: [108 PL, 1997pts] ++

the core of the list is the same, just dropped the termies and blighspawn to put in a solid Nurgle battalion, it helps me control the board grab objective and prevent opponent get easily into my backfield.

Yep, this is what I'm running (it also nets 4 more CP than Don's list):



++ Super-Heavy Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Questor Traitoris) [43 PL, 837pts] ++
+ Lord of War +

Renegade Armigers [9 PL, 174pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

Renegade Armigers [9 PL, 174pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

Renegade Knight [25 PL, 489pts]: Heavy stubber, Ironstorm Missile Pod
. Avenger gatling cannon and heavy flamer: Avenger gatling cannon, Heavy flamer
. Avenger gatling cannon and heavy flamer: Avenger gatling cannon, Heavy flamer


++ Fortification Network (Chaos - Daemons) [3 PL, 85pts] ++
Chaos Allegiance: Nurgle
+ Fortification +

Feculent Gnarlmaws [3 PL, 85pts]: Feculent Gnarlmaw


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Daemons) [58 PL, 1064pts] ++
Chaos Allegiance: Nurgle
+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [8 PL, 156pts]: 1. Miasma of Pestilence, 2. Arch-Contaminator, Hellforged sword, The Suppurating Plate, Warlord

Poxbringer [4 PL, 70pts]: Virulent Blessing

Spoilpox Scrivener [4 PL, 75pts]

+ Troops +

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Plaguebearers [12 PL, 235pts]: Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos, 29x Plaguebearer, Plagueridden

+ Heavy Support +

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

++ Total: [104 PL, 1986pts] ++

why you use a single Nurgle battalion and Dg units? you can use a Dg spearhead with 3 PBC and Dp you get 1 more cp and you have a pure demon detachment for locus and demons stratagems.
May i ask what you played against and your feedbacks about your matches thanks a lot

 blackmage wrote:
why you use a single Nurgle battalion and Dg units? you can use a Dg spearhead with 3 PBC and Dp you get 1 more cp and you have a pure demon detachment for locus and demons stratagems.
May i ask what you played against and your feedbacks about your matches thanks a lot

I'm not sure I understand what you mean there... you can only have 3 detachments, so, the maw takes one, the knights take one, and then the daemon/dg take one. (Can the maw go in the daemon one as a fortification?)

How would you build different?

I have played against eldar (won by points), played against BA (pure), and tabled them, I played against Ork boyz swarm with kannons and lots of nob/megas + big/little cans and nearly lost, but pulled out a win in the last round through tabling.

It is annoyingly difficult to deal with the crawlers, but even more to waste the time clearing bearers and nurglings off that maw to get to the crawlers supported by the DP. The knights chill in the back.

yes sorry forgot you run a fortification detachment so yes you dont have any other way to build

 blackmage wrote:
yes sorry forgot you run a fortification detachment so yes you dont have any other way to build

As a note, I get all the daemon strategems because of the Fortification detachment being Daemons, right?

yes i didn't see you had a fortification detachment

I think the only thing I don't get is Daemonic Loci (eh) and the rapid fire rules for DG (which don't affect my list), and DG strats which don't really do anything for this list either

yes just nugle locus sometimes is useful, +1 damage is nice.
@Valdier did you ever think about switch the big IK for those 10 Dg termies? play 3 helverins and 10 BL.

 blackmage wrote:
yes just nugle locus sometimes is useful, +1 damage is nice.
@Valdier did you ever think about switch the big IK for those 10 Dg termies? play 3 helverins and 10 BL.

I don't know that the termies would put out more damage than the knight would, but I haven't tried it yet. 10 BL, bloodletters?

My Daemon Prince has taken down a Gorkanaught in one turn due to the damage boosts psyker powers offer.

Sorry OP for hijacking your thread

BL blightlords, yes you right this thread is Zid's thread, virulent blessing+blades, +2 to wound and at 5+ you deliver double damage is nasty

 blackmage wrote:
BL blightlords, yes you right this thread is Zid's thread, virulent blessing+blades, +2 to wound and at 5+ you deliver double damage is nasty

Yeah, I'm not sure that I find terminators worthwhile yet, I need to look them over a bit more. The dual avengers and flamers kick out absurd amounts of dakka

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [25 PL, 491pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Relics of the Thousand Sons (1 Relic)

+ HQ +

Ahriman [7 PL, 131pts]

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch [9 PL, 180pts]: Diabolic Strength, Helm of the Third Eye, Malefic talon, Weaver of Fates, Wings

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch [9 PL, 180pts]: Daemonic axe, Wings

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [68 PL, 1157pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: 6. Arch-Contaminator, Malefic talon, The Suppurating Plate, Warlord, Wings

Typhus [9 PL, 175pts]

+ Troops +

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 78pts]: 13x Poxwalker

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 78pts]: 13x Poxwalker

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 72pts]: 12x Poxwalker

+ Elites +

Foul Blightspawn [4 PL, 77pts]

Foul Blightspawn [4 PL, 77pts]

+ Heavy Support +

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

++ Questor Traitoris Super-Heavy Detachment (Chaos - Questor Traitoris) [18 PL, 348pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

Renegade Armigers [9 PL, 174pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

Renegade Armigers [9 PL, 174pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

++ Total: [111 PL, 1996pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

I got ahold of some 1k sons, so thinking of going this route for the tourney. I like having access to all the csm and tzeentch spells, even if i do lose my durable screen, typhus with some walkers should be a good distraction and hold the backfield well enough. I can use the pbcs to screen the demon princes as they move up, or place a poxwalker wall with cloud of flies up.

I almost feel like i want the bell for this list....

 Zid wrote:

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [25 PL, 491pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Relics of the Thousand Sons (1 Relic)

+ HQ +

Ahriman [7 PL, 131pts]

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch [9 PL, 180pts]: Diabolic Strength, Helm of the Third Eye, Malefic talon, Weaver of Fates, Wings

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch [9 PL, 180pts]: Daemonic axe, Wings

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [68 PL, 1157pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: 6. Arch-Contaminator, Malefic talon, The Suppurating Plate, Warlord, Wings

Typhus [9 PL, 175pts]

+ Troops +

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 78pts]: 13x Poxwalker

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 78pts]: 13x Poxwalker

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 72pts]: 12x Poxwalker

+ Elites +

Foul Blightspawn [4 PL, 77pts]

Foul Blightspawn [4 PL, 77pts]

+ Heavy Support +

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

++ Questor Traitoris Super-Heavy Detachment (Chaos - Questor Traitoris) [18 PL, 348pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

Renegade Armigers [9 PL, 174pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

Renegade Armigers [9 PL, 174pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

++ Total: [111 PL, 1996pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

I got ahold of some 1k sons, so thinking of going this route for the tourney. I like having access to all the csm and tzeentch spells, even if i do lose my durable screen, typhus with some walkers should be a good distraction and hold the backfield well enough. I can use the pbcs to screen the demon princes as they move up, or place a poxwalker wall with cloud of flies up.

I almost feel like i want the bell for this list....

Zid,

I like this list a lot more personally. I know people love the blightspawns, I'm not sure I get the greatness of them, but I might just be missing something obvious

this list is good for a tournament, resilient, decent damage output and lot of pyschic support.

valdier wrote:

 Zid wrote:

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [25 PL, 491pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Relics of the Thousand Sons (1 Relic)

+ HQ +

Ahriman [7 PL, 131pts]

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch [9 PL, 180pts]: Diabolic Strength, Helm of the Third Eye, Malefic talon, Weaver of Fates, Wings

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch [9 PL, 180pts]: Daemonic axe, Wings

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [68 PL, 1157pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: 6. Arch-Contaminator, Malefic talon, The Suppurating Plate, Warlord, Wings

Typhus [9 PL, 175pts]

+ Troops +

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 78pts]: 13x Poxwalker

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 78pts]: 13x Poxwalker

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 72pts]: 12x Poxwalker

+ Elites +

Foul Blightspawn [4 PL, 77pts]

Foul Blightspawn [4 PL, 77pts]

+ Heavy Support +

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

++ Questor Traitoris Super-Heavy Detachment (Chaos - Questor Traitoris) [18 PL, 348pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

Renegade Armigers [9 PL, 174pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

Renegade Armigers [9 PL, 174pts]
. Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons

++ Total: [111 PL, 1996pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

I got ahold of some 1k sons, so thinking of going this route for the tourney. I like having access to all the csm and tzeentch spells, even if i do lose my durable screen, typhus with some walkers should be a good distraction and hold the backfield well enough. I can use the pbcs to screen the demon princes as they move up, or place a poxwalker wall with cloud of flies up.

I almost feel like i want the bell for this list....

Zid,

I like this list a lot more personally. I know people love the blightspawns, I'm not sure I get the greatness of them, but I might just be missing something obvious

-3 ap, d3, guns that auto hit.

The largest issue is their variable strength, but they are extremely potent against literally everything. Get 6 shots with it and watch stuff melt.


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 blackmage wrote:
this list is good for a tournament, resilient, decent damage output and lot of pyschic support.

Thanks! I think i may shift all the walkers into 18, 10 and 10.

My other variation swaps typhus for a malignant plaguecaster, 40 cultists, and 2 units of 10 walkers. But i kinda wanna run typhus just because its typhus... and he and ahriman were my favorites back in 5th.

thypus is superior to malignant keep them and walkers

 Zid wrote:

valdier wrote:

 Zid wrote:


I like this list a lot more personally. I know people love the blightspawns, I'm not sure I get the greatness of them, but I might just be missing something obvious

-3 ap, d3, guns that auto hit.

The largest issue is their variable strength, but they are extremely potent against literally everything. Get 6 shots with it and watch stuff melt.

Yeah, I guess I look at it and wonder if another Daemon Prince wouldn't just be superior for nearly the same points.

valdier wrote:

 Zid wrote:

valdier wrote:

 Zid wrote:


I like this list a lot more personally. I know people love the blightspawns, I'm not sure I get the greatness of them, but I might just be missing something obvious

-3 ap, d3, guns that auto hit.

The largest issue is their variable strength, but they are extremely potent against literally everything. Get 6 shots with it and watch stuff melt.

Yeah, I guess I look at it and wonder if another Daemon Prince wouldn't just be superior for nearly the same points.

You can only have 3 max, atc and bao ruled it was a oversight with the rule of 3. So i have 2 1k sons princes, and 1 dg prince already.

One suggestion has been to cut one spawn for more poxies. Which isnt a bad idea, except if i add more poxies i feel i would want the bell too. Which means zero spawns :(


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 Zid wrote:

valdier wrote:

 Zid wrote:

valdier wrote:

 Zid wrote:


I like this list a lot more personally. I know people love the blightspawns, I'm not sure I get the greatness of them, but I might just be missing something obvious

-3 ap, d3, guns that auto hit.

The largest issue is their variable strength, but they are extremely potent against literally everything. Get 6 shots with it and watch stuff melt.

Yeah, I guess I look at it and wonder if another Daemon Prince wouldn't just be superior for nearly the same points.

You can only have 3 max, atc and bao ruled it was a oversight with the rule of 3. So i have 2 1k sons princes, and 1 dg prince already.

One suggestion has been to cut one spawn for more poxies. Which isnt a bad idea, except if i add more poxies i feel i would want the bell too. Which means zero spawns :(


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Where did they make that ruling? They are different data sheets, per the beta rules you can have 9 of them technically (unless they are calling Captains with jump packs, captains and captains on bikes, all the same thing also) (nevermind, found it... booo)