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I’d say it’s the only Marvel film you do need to have seen others to fully enjoy.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

Actually, you guys are both wrong. If you haven't seen the other movies, Marvel does a fantastic job of quickly filling in the gaps so IW is completely accessible if the last Marvel movie you'd seen was Ultron.

I've no way of assessing that claim, as I had seen all but Black Panther when I watched IW, so ima going to go ahead and disagree with you on general principle ok?

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:


When someone says "massive all star casts were a thing of a past", and I can immediately name at least 3 counter-examples, then that's plenty enough to falsify the claim. No more needed to be said.

I didn’t say, “massive all star casts were a thing of a past”, because that makes no grammatical sense.

Nor did I say, “massive all star casts are a thing of the past” ie, not a thing in the present (which is what, I think, you’re trying to claim I said).

What I actually said was, “massive all star casts were a thing in the past”, ie it’s been done before.

You’re attempting to refute a claim that was never made.

If you are bad at making your point upfront, maybe you shouldn't get all pissy afterward?

Or, you know, read what he wrote. You quoted him and still got it wrong. But keep digging your hole, man.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
Massive all star casts were a thing in the past.

The Expendables.

Ocean's 11-12-13

Harry Potter (last movie)

If you had quoted MonkeyBallistic's full statement and not just stopped at the initial sentence you may have understood his point better when he said, "Two excellent WW2 movies, “The Longest Day” and “A Bridge Too Far” spring to mind. So having a huge cast of characters played by famous actors isn’t that revolutionary."

Maybe you were just eager to have a "gotcha" moment with someone? Sucks when that backfires.

Backfire wrote:

 KTG17 wrote:
HATE the nano suits. From Black Panther to Iron Man to Spiderman. I know its an evolution of the costumes, saves time and kids prob think its cool, but I hate them. Forming guns or spider legs from nothing is just too much for me.

Billion times this. Whole suit bonanza has got absurd. It was really stupid already in Iron Man 2 and has got worse ever since. It devalues the character, it devalues his suit, and what is worst, it devalues other characters. Hey, why doesn't Spider-Man use that suit ALL THE TIME? I mean, it is just so much better than his own powers. If Stark can create suits out of nothing like this, where is Black Widow suit? Or Hawkeye suit? They have no powers.

Hold on. Tony spent most of Iron Man 3 without his suit and did just fine.

Tony specifically addressed the suit question in Spiderman Homecoming:



Tony understands very clearly that the suit simply amplifies the person, and maybe he doesn't want everyone to have suits.

It's the *exact* same answer to "why me?" in Captain America:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

Backfire wrote:

 KTG17 wrote:
HATE the nano suits. From Black Panther to Iron Man to Spiderman. I know its an evolution of the costumes, saves time and kids prob think its cool, but I hate them. Forming guns or spider legs from nothing is just too much for me.

Billion times this. Whole suit bonanza has got absurd. It was really stupid already in Iron Man 2 and has got worse ever since. It devalues the character, it devalues his suit, and what is worst, it devalues other characters. Hey, why doesn't Spider-Man use that suit ALL THE TIME? I mean, it is just so much better than his own powers. If Stark can create suits out of nothing like this, where is Black Widow suit? Or Hawkeye suit? They have no powers.

Hold on. Tony spent most of Iron Man 3 without his suit and did just fine.

I wouldn't bring that film up. Remind me again, what was the end battle in that movie?

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

Tony specifically addressed the suit question in Spiderman Homecoming:

Also very bad argument as that movie is based on extremely slowed idea of Spider-Man being 'made' by Tony Stark. I'm not even much of a Spider-Man fan, and I find the premise of the movie (and that scene) very insulting.
It's like if Kal-El was actually brought up by Bruce Wayne, who funded and built the Fortress of Solitude.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

Tony understands very clearly that the suit simply amplifies the person, and maybe he doesn't want everyone to have suits.

Then maybe he shouldn't make so many of them? It's especially hilarious as in Iron Man 2, Stark precisely made the argument that his suit is fairly unique artifact not easily duplicated (which was the original premise of the suit in comics - same argument which applies to other similarly tech based superheroes and villains) and by the end of the movie there were dozens.

It's infuriating as the character of Stark is perhaps the best in the whole series, Downey does such bang-up job portraying him, and they have completely ruined the suit.

Dude, you've got so much wrong in your replies, it's like you didn't understand anything about the movie references I brought up. For example, S-M:H was specifically about Peter learning *not* to rely on the suit. IM2 saw Tony destroy the suits so others wouldn't get them. Not gonna waste any more on you if you can't even comprehend the most basic things.

I believe he destroys the suits at the end of IM3? The end of Iron Man 2 is the demolition of Mickey Rourke's droids and the only two Iron Men in it are Stark and Rhodes.

It's also a metaphor for his coming to terms with the events in New York, as he'd built them so he'd be ready for anything because he was terrified of what might be next, and also a symbol of his commitment to Pepper because his obsession with building them was damaging their relationship. You are right about Parker in SM:H, and this is where Stark learns that lesson so he can pass it on.

So talking of basic comprehension...

SM:H is also about Tony realising his antics have inspired a new generation of would-be heroes, and trying to be responsible about it.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
It is an excellent movie, and is pretty much one of a kind; no movie has taken such an all-star cast, with SO many characters and made such a success with that many famous people on a single screen. Not only that, but the good guys lost. Hard. Most movies haven’t touched on that since Empire Strikes Back. It will go down as a monumental movie as revolutionary.

See you say that but DC is worrse in that regard lol

I did love infinity war. Cause Thanos was the Protoganist and was a believable and interesting villian.

He was also nearly sympathetic.

Sure, his plan is utterly guano, pants on head, Tory voting insane. But the motivation (saving existence from itself) isn’t as twisted as his strength solution suggests.

Yeah, the moment when Tony says "what if someone died?" And then flips it on himself asking "what if you died?"

 Azreal13 wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
Minority opinion -- Infinity War was a fairly terrible movie in *many* ways.

It was good entertainment and a good installment of a long-running serial, mind you. But if you try to look at it through a normal 'movie' lens, or even a normal sequel lens...egads, it'd be an incomprehensible mess.

Goes to show you how unique this thing that Marvel created really is.

Agreed. Throwing words like "unique" and "revolutionary" around in the context of this movie is stretching things beyond credulity IMO. I enjoyed it immensely, but it's just a popcorn blockbuster that would render anyone who hadn't watched a decent chunk of the preceding body of work completely clueless as to what was happening or what the implications were for long sections.

Ok, it's a rare that a movie with this much anticipation from the fan base isn't a significant let down, and this really wasn't a let down IMO, but viewed in isolation it's a hugely flawed movie that relies massively on the assumotion that its audience is educated on the topic.

I think that’s kind of the point though, Infinity War is not intended to be viewed in isolation. It’s a movie that deliberately, by design, relies on you having seen the previous movies. I don’t think that makes it a flawed movie at all because not doing something you never intended to do isn’t a flaw.

The really revolutionary thing about Infinity War is that it is brave enough to not spend time trying to be accessible to someone who hasn’t seen the previous movies. It’s long form story telling. I don’t think you’d level the same criticism to the season finale of a TV show, because that’s essentially what Infinity War is.

Again, that's not really revolutionary is it? I mean that's just describing what a sequel is, the only thing IW did was push the envelope a bit on how much prior knowledge you needed to get everything. That's, almost by definition, evolutionary.

Yeah, is it revolutionary to take an obviously 'TV' approach to a movie franchise? Seems like there's some yes and no there. Yes because it hasn't been done with movies before and because it's been a box office bonanza for Disney, but no because they're not inventing a new approach to storytelling. It's just moving a tried-and-true approach to a new medium.

I think the Russos are incredibly overrated, even with Winter Soldier probably being the best film in the MCU. Civil War was *full* of issues...many of which were shared with the even more flawed BvS. But the momentum of the MCU carried audiences through all the problems and nonsensical aspects of CW. People still cared about the characters, even if very little of the film made any sense. But you know, the Russos understand TV, and the MCU is at a point where it's become appointment viewing and it doesn't matter if there's a bad episode or two. They just have to keep people interested and keep the momentum going.

Disney was also very fortunate to have RDJ to do what movie stars can do and keep people coming to see (and spackling over any cracks in) the early films. It really gave them the momentum they needed through the early part of the franchise. It will be very, very interesting to see what happens when the 'original cast' leaves. I'm sure the MCU films will continue to do very well, and they've developed some new star characters like BP. Disney also keeps their budgets very tight, something WB/DC could learn a lot from. Still, the box office of the Ant-Man sequel was a little underwhelming by current MCU standards, which may (or may not) be a warning sign.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:


If you are bad at making your point upfront, maybe you shouldn't get all pissy afterward?

....

Actually, you guys are both wrong.

Dude, what is wrong with you?

The grown ups are trying to have a discussion and here’s you trying to win. Just stop.


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 gorgon wrote:


I think the Russos are incredibly overrated, even with Winter Soldier probably being the best film in the MCU. Civil War was *full* of issues...many of which were shared with the even more flawed BvS. But the momentum of the MCU carried audiences through all the problems and nonsensical aspects of CW. People still cared about the characters, even if very little of the film made any sense. But you know, the Russos understand TV, and the MCU is at a point where it's become appointment viewing and it doesn't matter if there's a bad episode or two. They just have to keep people interested and keep the momentum going.

I’d be genuinely interested to hear what you think the issues with Winter Soldier were. It’s not my favourite MCU film, but probably top three.

It was well made and had some great set pieces, but I couldn't shake the feeling that none of it matter as inevitably the good guys will get the Gauntlet and put everything 'right' again with maybe some timey-wimey jigglypuffing to allow for recasts and new characters

 Turnip Jedi wrote:
It was well made and had some great set pieces, but I couldn't shake the feeling that none of it matter as inevitably the good guys will get the Gauntlet and put everything 'right' again with maybe some timey-wimey jigglypuffing to allow for recasts and new characters

Well yeah thats a given - its like any TV show where there is a epsiode where much of the main cast are killed AND they reference a time travel thing - its going to be reset.

Strange even says he is setting up for the one version of the future that they can win in (ignoring any that Starlord does not doom half the universe with his attack).

It would be less of a giveaway if they had not killed off the most (?) of the shiny "new" characters (some of whom have new films coming out) and left most of those who were coming out of contract alive.

To be honest though if the joureny is good enough (and in this case it was), then the fact that you know your destination is not an issue - at least for me.

 Mr Morden wrote:


It would be less of a giveaway if they had not killed off the most (?) of the shiny "new" characters (some of whom have new films coming out) and left most of those who were coming out of contract alive.

To be honest though if the joureny is good enough (and in this case it was), then the fact that you know your destination is not an issue - at least for me.

Indeed. The ending has so obviously set up the next film to be one last, big adventure for the original Avengers before the MCU moves on. Sounds good to me. A text book case of how to do fan service well (and this whole movie came across, to me at least, as one for the fans). Star Wars writers take note

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
I’d be genuinely interested to hear what you think the issues with Winter Soldier were. It’s not my favourite MCU film, but probably top three.

My point -- that maybe I didn't make clearly -- is that Winter Soldier is probably the best MCU film, but I think the Russos are overrated because of their other efforts.


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 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:


It would be less of a giveaway if they had not killed off the most (?) of the shiny "new" characters (some of whom have new films coming out) and left most of those who were coming out of contract alive.

To be honest though if the joureny is good enough (and in this case it was), then the fact that you know your destination is not an issue - at least for me.

Indeed. The ending has so obviously set up the next film to be one last, big adventure for the original Avengers before the MCU moves on. Sounds good to me. A text book case of how to do fan service well (and this whole movie came across, to me at least, as one for the fans). Star Wars writers take note

If you believe the rumors (possible spoilers?)...

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
He was also nearly sympathetic.

Sure, his plan is utterly guano, pants on head, Tory voting insane. But the motivation (saving existence from itself) isn’t as twisted as his strength solution suggests.

I mean he clearly cares about gamora to such a degree he sees her as his daughter. She even weeps when he fake dies.

Its clear he never 'abused' her (not directly anyway). He cares about her feelings with such a small scene as when she tells him she hates his throne, and instead of sitting on the throne, he sits on the steps to his throne.

 Asherian Command wrote:

I did love infinity war. Cause Thanos was the Protoganist and was a believable and interesting villian.

This is what really made the movie for me, the fact that they made Thanos the protagonist on a hero's journey was fething brilliant!

Backfire wrote:

 KTG17 wrote:

HATE the nano suits. From Black Panther to Iron Man to Spiderman. I know its an evolution of the costumes, saves time and kids prob think its cool, but I hate them. Forming guns or spider legs from nothing is just too much for me.

Billion times this. Whole suit bonanza has got absurd. It was really stupid already in Iron Man 2 and has got worse ever since. It devalues the character, it devalues his suit, and what is worst, it devalues other characters. Hey, why doesn't Spider-Man use that suit ALL THE TIME? I mean, it is just so much better than his own powers. If Stark can create suits out of nothing like this, where is Black Widow suit? Or Hawkeye suit? They have no powers.

Iron Man perpetually goes through this cycle. There are two aspects of his powerset appeal: the obvious, his the flashy high tech stuff, but the other is the mechanic, building raw power with his bare hands. The appeal of the former causes his stories to always be about the latest and greatest invention, until the whole thing gets completely silly and basically becomes magic. Somewhere around this point, a writer remembers the OTHER big appeal and he suffers a massive setback that strips the character bare and forces him to rebuild from scratch again. Iron Man isn't the only character to suffer this (the Flash getting ever faster runs into similar problems) but Tony is easily one of the most notable characters for repeatedly jumping the shark in terms of tech.

FWIW, while on the whole I"m really not super fond of the nano suit and there's a good at least half dozen moments from it in the firlm I'd rather were something else, I was really glad to see it actually get used properly at the end vs Thanos, where chunks of the armor disappear as Tony desperately pulls more bits of it in to keep the guns going. On the whole though, I'm definitely in the camp of losing the appeal of the character whenever we lose the sense of mechanical function from his armor.


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 timetowaste85 wrote:
It is an excellent movie, and is pretty much one of a kind; no movie has taken such an all-star cast, with SO many characters and made such a success with that many famous people on a single screen. Not only that, but the good guys lost. Hard. Most movies haven’t touched on that since Empire Strikes Back. It will go down as a monumental movie as revolutionary.

It was interesting to finally get to rewatch it with my wife who didn't get a chance to see it on the first run. For one thing, the spectacle of it is something she kind of checks out of and to a point, I kind of get it. There are definitely points in the film where stuff just keeps happening and it walks a fine line between making you feel the characters' desperation and just making up powers as they go. What didn't occur to me until we had to take a break right towards the end of the film though was that part of why the spectacle didn't work for her is she just assumed the good guys were going to kill the big purple CGI monster and save the universe. She literally went from dismissively guessing that "now Thor shows up to save the day" to "they lost?!" in a couple minutes.

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:


It would be less of a giveaway if they had not killed off the most (?) of the shiny "new" characters (some of whom have new films coming out) and left most of those who were coming out of contract alive.

To be honest though if the joureny is good enough (and in this case it was), then the fact that you know your destination is not an issue - at least for me.

Indeed. The ending has so obviously set up the next film to be one last, big adventure for the original Avengers before the MCU moves on. Sounds good to me. A text book case of how to do fan service well (and this whole movie came across, to me at least, as one for the fans). Star Wars writers take note

Chalk and cheese Infinity War was a well crafted film that appeals not only to fans but a wider audiance, its funny, clever and enjoyable.

The Last Jedi is a dull, slow motion car crash - poorly written, directed and paced.

Whole suit bonanza has got absurd. It was really stupid already in Iron Man 2 and has got worse ever since. It devalues the character, it devalues his suit, and what is worst, it devalues other characters. Hey, why doesn't Spider-Man use that suit ALL THE TIME? I mean, it is just so much better than his own powers. If Stark can create suits out of nothing like this, where is Black Widow suit? Or Hawkeye suit? They have no powers.

Stark almost certainy would have created suits for Hawkeye, Cap, Black Widow etc etc if not for Civil War - its more logical than the "only I may possess this suit".

Tony is so much more than the suit - much fo the heart of the Marvel films - still hoping for a happy ending for him and Pepper. Although some interaction with Black Panther's sister would be great fun.

We have the multiple suits for the Ant man cast - the suit is just a tool in any of the films - Marvel films are about the people in them.

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
He was also nearly sympathetic.

Sure, his plan is utterly guano, pants on head, Tory voting insane. But the motivation (saving existence from itself) isn’t as twisted as his strength solution suggests.

I mean he clearly cares about gamora to such a degree he sees her as his daughter. She even weeps when he fake dies.

Its clear he never 'abused' her (not directly anyway). He cares about her feelings with such a small scene as when she tells him she hates his throne, and instead of sitting on the throne, he sits on the steps to his throne.

Well, sure. Until he throws his 'daughter' into a chasm, sheds a tear, and is over it almost immediately. He seems awfully content with his decision to go 'daughter'-murdering by the end of the film.

You really almost have to completely turn off your brain to think that Thanos behaves like a caring parent OR appears to be someone with a coherent plan. Now, if the character is meant to be a batgak crazy monster who's achieved almost perfect self-delusion (such as that he cares for Gamora or that his scheme makes even a lick of sense)...fine, I'm on board.

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
Star Wars writers take note

Exactly, its amazing how well Marvel is putting together a massive epic story in essentially a limited universe at the moment, and Star Wars can't put together a remotely interesting one with concepts that people already love in a massive universe. If I was running Star Wars, I would be pleading with Marvel to let me borrow some writers.

 Mr Morden wrote:

We have the multiple suits for the Ant man cast - the suit is just a tool in any of the films - Marvel films are about the people in them.

I would be cool with it if an alien had it, and maybe they adopted the tech, but its just getting ridiculous now. And now that the cat is out of the bag I am afraid we'll see more of it. Imagine Ant Man clicking his helmet and it collapses back into some part of his suit because its nano too. It will just get stupid.

 gorgon wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
He was also nearly sympathetic.

Sure, his plan is utterly guano, pants on head, Tory voting insane. But the motivation (saving existence from itself) isn’t as twisted as his strength solution suggests.

I mean he clearly cares about gamora to such a degree he sees her as his daughter. She even weeps when he fake dies.

Its clear he never 'abused' her (not directly anyway). He cares about her feelings with such a small scene as when she tells him she hates his throne, and instead of sitting on the throne, he sits on the steps to his throne.

Well, sure. Until he throws his 'daughter' into a chasm, sheds a tear, and is over it almost immediately. He seems awfully content with his decision to go 'daughter'-murdering by the end of the film.

You really almost have to completely turn off your brain to think that Thanos behaves like a caring parent OR appears to be someone with a coherent plan. Now, if the character is meant to be a batgak crazy monster who's achieved almost perfect self-delusion (such as that he cares for Gamora or that his scheme makes even a lick of sense)...fine, I'm on board.

Agreed - that how i saw him - a Monster with total belief in a insane scheme.

We don't really see much of her life with Thanos and given he is a complete raving lunatic its hard to be sure how he treated her off screen - the torture he inflicted on her "sister" does not bode well....

It's actually really easy to be sure how he treated her, Gamora talks about it, her reaction to him, and his treatment of Nebula (who is also supposedly his daughter.)

 gorgon wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
He was also nearly sympathetic.

Sure, his plan is utterly guano, pants on head, Tory voting insane. But the motivation (saving existence from itself) isn’t as twisted as his strength solution suggests.

I mean he clearly cares about gamora to such a degree he sees her as his daughter. She even weeps when he fake dies.

Its clear he never 'abused' her (not directly anyway). He cares about her feelings with such a small scene as when she tells him she hates his throne, and instead of sitting on the throne, he sits on the steps to his throne.

Well, sure. Until he throws his 'daughter' into a chasm, sheds a tear, and is over it almost immediately. He seems awfully content with his decision to go 'daughter'-murdering by the end of the film.

You really almost have to completely turn off your brain to think that Thanos behaves like a caring parent OR appears to be someone with a coherent plan. Now, if the character is meant to be a batgak crazy monster who's achieved almost perfect self-delusion (such as that he cares for Gamora or that his scheme makes even a lick of sense)...fine, I'm on board.

Well, even though it was a bright neon sign beating you with a hammer, you still managed to miss the point of him throwing her into the abyss; the REQUIREMENT of getting the gem is sacrificing what you love most in the universe. Thanos sacrifices her, and cries over it. Regardless of how long it lasts, the fact that the gem manifests itself to him is PROOF of his love for her. He isn't content to "go daughter murdering" as you put it, so much as "I need to save the universe, and it requires my daughter's life to get the final piece I need". Is his plan crazy? Of course. But that doesn't mean he doesn't love his daughter. The movie hammers home the point that he does. Just because you're watching it with blinders on doesn't make it untrue. Humorously, given the back and forth between the Marvel/DC fans we've had on here, if Snyder did it like this, you'd approve of it and call it "deep writing".

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
He was also nearly sympathetic.

Sure, his plan is utterly guano, pants on head, Tory voting insane. But the motivation (saving existence from itself) isn’t as twisted as his strength solution suggests.

I mean he clearly cares about gamora to such a degree he sees her as his daughter. She even weeps when he fake dies.

Its clear he never 'abused' her (not directly anyway). He cares about her feelings with such a small scene as when she tells him she hates his throne, and instead of sitting on the throne, he sits on the steps to his throne.

Well, sure. Until he throws his 'daughter' into a chasm, sheds a tear, and is over it almost immediately. He seems awfully content with his decision to go 'daughter'-murdering by the end of the film.

You really almost have to completely turn off your brain to think that Thanos behaves like a caring parent OR appears to be someone with a coherent plan. Now, if the character is meant to be a batgak crazy monster who's achieved almost perfect self-delusion (such as that he cares for Gamora or that his scheme makes even a lick of sense)...fine, I'm on board.

Well, even though it was a bright neon sign beating you with a hammer, you still managed to miss the point of him throwing her into the abyss; the REQUIREMENT of getting the gem is sacrificing what you love most in the universe. Thanos sacrifices her, and cries over it. Regardless of how long it lasts, the fact that the gem manifests itself to him is PROOF of his love for her. He isn't content to "go daughter murdering" as you put it, so much as "I need to save the universe, and it requires my daughter's life to get the final piece I need". Is his plan crazy? Of course. But that doesn't mean he doesn't love his daughter. The movie hammers home the point that he does. Just because you're watching it with blinders on doesn't make it untrue. Humorously, given the back and forth between the Marvel/DC fans we've had on here, if Snyder did it like this, you'd approve of it and call it "deep writing".

"Thing he loves most" only needs to be the top item on an unimpressive list. And in fact it was exactly that, because he murdered it in the name of a plan that makes no sense to any sane individual.

Quite the fanboy reaction you have there, BTW. My comment isn't even a criticism of the film if you read what I said, but you went full on "LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!1!!"

 gorgon wrote:

Spoiler:

...the last installment will have them moving through time revisiting big moments of earlier MCU films. Basically fan service so dense that even light can't escape. I'm sure it'll be very popular.

As for me...eh. I guess I'm just not caught up in this nostalgia-obsessed, fan-service-demanding zeitgeist that's going on.

As long as it's Back to the Future II style, I'm game!

 Galef wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

Spoiler:

...the last installment will have them moving through time revisiting big moments of earlier MCU films. Basically fan service so dense that even light can't escape. I'm sure it'll be very popular.

As for me...eh. I guess I'm just not caught up in this nostalgia-obsessed, fan-service-demanding zeitgeist that's going on.

As long as it's Back to the Future II style, I'm game!

That means we need a hover board chase!

 Easy E wrote:

 Galef wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

Spoiler:

...the last installment will have them moving through time revisiting big moments of earlier MCU films. Basically fan service so dense that even light can't escape. I'm sure it'll be very popular.

As for me...eh. I guess I'm just not caught up in this nostalgia-obsessed, fan-service-demanding zeitgeist that's going on.

As long as it's Back to the Future II style, I'm game!

That means we need a hover board chase!

well there's this shiny dude with a board, he's kind of Radd...