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Spectral Ceramite wrote:
Gunna say Idk the appeal of snot, booger, mutation and degradation to the audience.... just turns me off... maybe you nurgle players have some weird fetish but ewwww

Please provide a link to the model you are referring too.

Or are you just trolling?

 Jidmah wrote:

Spectral Ceramite wrote:
Gunna say Idk the appeal of snot, booger, mutation and degradation to the audience.... just turns me off... maybe you nurgle players have some weird fetish but ewwww

Please provide a link to the model you are referring too.

Or are you just trolling?

Umm sorry if look at any Nurgle army ever, is diseases, pestilence (which is usually green and disgusting and entails a lot of boogers etc). Maybe you are thinking of a different army?

Ah, I see, you are trolling.

 Jidmah wrote:
Ah, I see, you are trolling.

So Nurgle is not disgustingly resilient they don't infect people with plagues etc? Umm I don't see the trolling saying a spade is a spade

Spectral Ceramite wrote:

 vaklor4 wrote:
If you think Death Guard is bad, did you know Slaanesh models used to show BOOBIES?!

I actually have a rather large Slaneesh army cause though are provocative don't look like snot and boogers (the humanity).

Ah, the old Kruellagh the Vile mini is right up your alley then. Major cameltoe going on down there...

 Grimtuff wrote:

Spectral Ceramite wrote:

 vaklor4 wrote:
If you think Death Guard is bad, did you know Slaanesh models used to show BOOBIES?!

I actually have a rather large Slaneesh army cause though are provocative don't look like snot and boogers (the humanity).

Ah, the old Kruellagh the Vile mini is right up your alley then. Major cameltoe going on down there...

Well that is crude and derogative... If you see that it is what it is (why are you arguing against what Nurgle is ...snot, boogers, disease and pestilence? Is what the are?)

The bad clean paintjobs GW gives their great Nurgle models annoy me more. Seriousely, they make gruesome models and artworks and then they paint their minis ridiculously bland, no blood, purple tentacles, no use of any of their own technical paints like Nurgles rot.

 Grimtuff wrote:

Glumy wrote:
Also Space Wolves are wearing furs which might indicate animal cruelty.

Lets not go overboard. If you think your kid shouldnt watch or play with something simply dont buy it.

Oh let's not go there again. PETA already did that to GW.

It inspired me to create a space wolf army

Spectral Ceramite wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:

Spectral Ceramite wrote:

 vaklor4 wrote:
If you think Death Guard is bad, did you know Slaanesh models used to show BOOBIES?!

I actually have a rather large Slaneesh army cause though are provocative don't look like snot and boogers (the humanity).

Ah, the old Kruellagh the Vile mini is right up your alley then. Major cameltoe going on down there...

Well that is crude and derogative... If you see that it is what it is(why are you argueing aginst what nurgle is ...snot, boogers, disease and pestilence?)

Because it's clearly not the former two? Just like Slaanesh isn't all about sex and boobies.

GW's studio representation of Nurgle is awful. The pastel colours look gak and they're far too diluted in theme. Brutus Apex is correct, GW don't go far enough. Nurgle is the cycle of life, Nurgle is determiniation, Nurgle is despair- these are all themes that are represented in various minis. Those bodies are rotting as Nurgle is entropy- this is why he is the antithesis of Tzeentch. You are dying from diesease and Nurgle stops the rot, but at what cost.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
The bad clean paintjobs GW gives their great Nurgle models annoy me more. Seriousely, they make gruesome models and artworks and then they paint their minis ridiculously bland, no blood, purple tentacles, no use of any of their own technical paints like Nurgles rot.

I think part of that is GW advertising at a level of skill that isn't master-level. It's very clean and very neat and yes you can do a LOT better, but at the same time their style appeals to many getting started with their own painting. Honestly a lot of model lines achieve this roughly similar level of detail and skill - the one that stands out against that would be Dropzone games which have a very high standard on very small and high detail models.

All I can say is instead of complaining, just don't play? The setting has always been "rated mature" from the very first days. Real Life is rated mature. Things that happen in 40k happen in real life too, albeit at a lesser scale.

 Jidmah wrote:

 Stux wrote:
That's a prime reason I would never collect DG, this kind of thing bothers me too much! I appreciate that executing the aesthetic in any other way would be extremely difficult, so I don't necessarily begrudge the choice at all. It just isn't for me.

Currently there are 22 distinct plague marines (before conversions), that's sufficient for most armies

I take your point, but it's still an issue for me. It's not just about each model in my army being unique if I'm honest, it's also how I know it's the same 22 guys across all armies out there. Stops it feeling like it's my dudes.

I know that might seem silly to some people though!

 Grimtuff wrote:

Spectral Ceramite wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:

Spectral Ceramite wrote:

 vaklor4 wrote:
If you think Death Guard is bad, did you know Slaanesh models used to show BOOBIES?!

I actually have a rather large Slaneesh army cause though are provocative don't look like snot and boogers (the humanity).

Ah, the old Kruellagh the Vile mini is right up your alley then. Major cameltoe going on down there...

Well that is crude and derogative... If you see that it is what it is(why are you argueing aginst what nurgle is ...snot, boogers, disease and pestilence?)

Because it's clearly not the former two? Just like Slaanesh isn't all about sex and boobies.

GW's studio representation of Nurgle is awful. The pastel colours look gak and they're far too diluted in theme. Brutus Apex is correct, GW don't go far enough. Nurgle is the cycle of life, Nurgle is determiniation, Nurgle is despair- these are all themes that are represented in various minis. Those bodies are rotting as Nurgle is entropy- this is why he is the antithesis of Tzeentch. You are dying from diesease and Nurgle stops the rot, but at what cost.

Exactally as i said nurgle are... rotting to a new life, putrescent disintegration to what is beyond... boogers coming out of noses and slim out of your mouths until reborn...change through precedent degradation. GW and 90% of people paint the change (and the models are booger friendly (saying booger as many times as can ) If want what go after good luck. However, 99% of Nurgle models are boogers, slim, disease and pestilence... ewwwww not matter what way you turn it.

 Stux wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

 Stux wrote:
That's a prime reason I would never collect DG, this kind of thing bothers me too much! I appreciate that executing the aesthetic in any other way would be extremely difficult, so I don't necessarily begrudge the choice at all. It just isn't for me.

Currently there are 22 distinct plague marines (before conversions), that's sufficient for most armies

I take your point, but it's still an issue for me. It's not just about each model in my army being unique if I'm honest, it's also how I know it's the same 22 guys across all armies out there. Stops it feeling like it's my dudes.

I know that might seem silly to some people though!

No, I perfectly understand your point, while I don't share your opinion.

You are collecting models and when you are playing, you are using models from your collection.

I built my Death Guard army because I thought the rules were fun to play, and I am only painting it so the army looks better on the battlefield. Having identical models doesn't bother me beyond some marine standing next to his clone - but that can be mitigated by just swapping heads, giving them slightly different paint jobs, etc.

There are multiple ways to have fun with WH40k

Spectral Ceramite wrote:
Exactally as i said nurgle are... rotting to a new life, putrescent disintegration to what is beyond... boogers coming out of noses and slim out of your mouths until reborn...change through precedent degradation. GW and 90% of people paint the change (and the models are booger friendly (saying booger as many times as can ) If want what go after good luck. However, 99% of Nurgle models are boogers, slim, disease and pestilence... ewwwww not matter what way you turn it.

IDK why you're so fixated on boogers. Nurgle minis are painted much more often covered in pus and boils which most would agree are much worse than boogers. There's also the occasional model with some vomit, only a single nurgling comes to mind with it actually modeled off the top of my head. But there are some units that use projectile vomit as a shooting weapon. But no, boogers are what you're fixated on for Nurgle being gross LOL.

 Jidmah wrote:
No, I perfectly understand your point, while I don't share your opinion.

You are collecting models and when you are playing, you are using models from your collection.

I built my Death Guard army because I thought the rules were fun to play, and I am only painting it so the army looks better on the battlefield. Having identical models doesn't bother me beyond some marine standing next to his clone - but that can be mitigated by just swapping heads, giving them slightly different paint jobs, etc.

There are multiple ways to have fun with WH40k

Now that I can relate with... I hate the Death guard aesthetic but love the rules of resilient troops...(I do make armies to theme/fluff but If i didn't... )


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 IronBrand wrote:

Spectral Ceramite wrote:
Exactally as i said nurgle are... rotting to a new life, putrescent disintegration to what is beyond... boogers coming out of noses and slim out of your mouths until reborn...change through precedent degradation. GW and 90% of people paint the change (and the models are booger friendly (saying booger as many times as can ) If want what go after good luck. However, 99% of Nurgle models are boogers, slim, disease and pestilence... ewwwww not matter what way you turn it.

IDK why you're so fixated on boogers. Nurgle minis are painted much more often covered in pus and boils which most would agree are much worse than boogers. There's also the occasional model with some vomit, only a single nurgling comes to mind with it actually modeled off the top of my head. But there are some units that use projectile vomit as a shooting weapon. But no, boogers are what you're fixated on for Nurgle being gross LOL.

Because I hate boogers, I also hate seeing people who pick their nose. Hence the focus.

Picking one's nose builds up your immunity.

You're fighting Nurgle one step at a time by digging for nose gold.

Spectral Ceramite wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
No, I perfectly understand your point, while I don't share your opinion.

You are collecting models and when you are playing, you are using models from your collection.

I built my Death Guard army because I thought the rules were fun to play, and I am only painting it so the army looks better on the battlefield. Having identical models doesn't bother me beyond some marine standing next to his clone - but that can be mitigated by just swapping heads, giving them slightly different paint jobs, etc.

There are multiple ways to have fun with WH40k

Now that I can relate with... I hate the Death guard aesthetic but love the rules of resilient troops...(I do make armies to theme/fluff but If i didn't... )


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 IronBrand wrote:

Spectral Ceramite wrote:
Exactally as i said nurgle are... rotting to a new life, putrescent disintegration to what is beyond... boogers coming out of noses and slim out of your mouths until reborn...change through precedent degradation. GW and 90% of people paint the change (and the models are booger friendly (saying booger as many times as can ) If want what go after good luck. However, 99% of Nurgle models are boogers, slim, disease and pestilence... ewwwww not matter what way you turn it.

IDK why you're so fixated on boogers. Nurgle minis are painted much more often covered in pus and boils which most would agree are much worse than boogers. There's also the occasional model with some vomit, only a single nurgling comes to mind with it actually modeled off the top of my head. But there are some units that use projectile vomit as a shooting weapon. But no, boogers are what you're fixated on for Nurgle being gross LOL.

Because I hate boogers, I also hate seeing people who pick their nose. Hence the focus.

Isnt that the point? to be grossed out? I guess Nurgle is perfect then!

PS.. i think you have a problem hating a natural body mechanic so much....

 Amishprn86 wrote:


Isnt that the point? to be grossed out? I guess Nurgle is perfect then!

Yup-
"To those outside, we are terror. To those within, we are the persistent."

"We were the Unbroken. He (Mortarion) never let us clean the filth from our armour. Over time, we stopped wanting to."

Two great quotes from Typhus to sum up Nurgle in a nutshell.

Spectral Ceramite wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
No, I perfectly understand your point, while I don't share your opinion.

You are collecting models and when you are playing, you are using models from your collection.

I built my Death Guard army because I thought the rules were fun to play, and I am only painting it so the army looks better on the battlefield. Having identical models doesn't bother me beyond some marine standing next to his clone - but that can be mitigated by just swapping heads, giving them slightly different paint jobs, etc.

There are multiple ways to have fun with WH40k

Now that I can relate with... I hate the Death guard aesthetic but love the rules of resilient troops...(I do make armies to theme/fluff but If i didn't... )

That's why I was asking what Death Guard models disgust you so much. I can relate to nurgle daemons and pox walkers being disgusting, but actual marines and daemon engines?

Mine are painted like these:


Very few of the DG models even remotely resemble anything similar to boogers.

 Jidmah wrote:

Spectral Ceramite wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
No, I perfectly understand your point, while I don't share your opinion.

You are collecting models and when you are playing, you are using models from your collection.

I built my Death Guard army because I thought the rules were fun to play, and I am only painting it so the army looks better on the battlefield. Having identical models doesn't bother me beyond some marine standing next to his clone - but that can be mitigated by just swapping heads, giving them slightly different paint jobs, etc.

There are multiple ways to have fun with WH40k

Now that I can relate with... I hate the Death guard aesthetic but love the rules of resilient troops...(I do make armies to theme/fluff but If i didn't... )

That's why I was asking what Death Guard models disgust you so much. I can relate to nurgle daemons and pox walkers being disgusting, but actual marines and daemon engines?

Mine are painted like these:

Spoiler:

Very few of the DG models even remotely resemble anything similar to boogers.

Mine go in the complete opposite direction. In the interest of tooting one's own horn- https://dj1066.imgur.com/.

I think he might go catatonic looking at them.

Spectral Ceramite…. if you're a resilient troops guy buy don't appreciate the death guard aesthetic.... perhaps you could get those clean cut 30k armour marks and make 30k death guard... grenade launchers for blight launchers, scythes and maces for flails... plasma is still plasma.... then use the 40k ruleset and deathguard codex? Just say they've emerged from the warp; clad in their old white/green battleplate and immediately returned to their (now ascended) primarch's side...

 GamerGuy wrote:
Spectral Ceramite…. if you're a resilient troops guy buy don't appreciate the death guard aesthetic.... perhaps you could get those clean cut 30k armour marks and make 30k death guard... grenade launchers for blight launchers, scythes and maces for flails... plasma is still plasma.... then use the 40k ruleset and deathguard codex? Just say they've emerged from the warp; clad in their old white/green battleplate and immediately returned to their (now ascended) primarch's side...

I honestly would do that but the budget prevails (I love the death guard theme/ perspective, but hate the degradation (hence my demonisation of boogers and disease) and hate the cost to my wallet.


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Spectral Ceramite wrote:

 GamerGuy wrote:
Spectral Ceramite…. if you're a resilient troops guy buy don't appreciate the death guard aesthetic.... perhaps you could get those clean cut 30k armour marks and make 30k death guard... grenade launchers for blight launchers, scythes and maces for flails... plasma is still plasma.... then use the 40k ruleset and deathguard codex? Just say they've emerged from the warp; clad in their old white/green battleplate and immediately returned to their (now ascended) primarch's side...

I honestly would do that but the budget prevails (I love the death guard theme/ perspective, but hate the degradation (hence my demonetisation of boogers and disease) and hate the cost to my wallet.

Theme/perspective on change not what they are portrayed to be (hence my degradation/focus on boogers )

hobojebus wrote:
Oh won't someone think of the children!!!!

That thinking has lead to the millennial generation being overly sensitive and unable to function in the real world.

Kids don't need wrapping in bubble wrap they need to have the freedom to discover their own limits.

Oh yes, because at no other time have adults tried to do stupid things to protect the youth until recently. Just ask the DC and Marvel (the comics code) or TSR (the satanic panic). Guess that teacher's aid that wasted one of my lunch periods back in the 80s to tell me about how she feared for my soul because DnD was of the devil must have been an illusion crafted by old scratch himself so I could eye roll my way down the path of damnation.

As for Nurgle being too much, I personally see them as what a Scoby-doo villian is to horror. Then again, I wasn't affected by doing n image search on Crocodil use (NSFW and not good if you have a weak stomach as there is real rotted flesh and exposed bone).

 Grimtuff wrote:
Mine go in the complete opposite direction. In the interest of tooting one's own horn- https://dj1066.imgur.com/.

Your army looks phenomenal.

You do a hell of a lot more justice to Nurgle than the GW paint team.

I does kinda annoy me that GW can focus on super disgusting decayed models and/or hyper violent themes, but heaven forbid they put out attractive half (or all) naked female figures.
Don't get me wrong, I like the plastic Daemonettes ok, but I wish some of them looked more like the old Diaz metal ones. Daemonettes are supposed to be alluring right up until it's too late, but the models seem to all represent that "Bilbo/Gollum" moment of their transformation.

I will never understand why violence is more ok to portray than sexuality. Especially in a miniature game that emphasizes aesthetics.
I don't know about any of you, but I'd rather look at (and spend time painting) an attractive female figure over some gross half-rotten corpse or bloody rage monster.

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Some models are somewhat graphic in nature but considering the lore, it is appropriate.

 Jidmah wrote:

 Stux wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

 Stux wrote:
That's a prime reason I would never collect DG, this kind of thing bothers me too much! I appreciate that executing the aesthetic in any other way would be extremely difficult, so I don't necessarily begrudge the choice at all. It just isn't for me.

Currently there are 22 distinct plague marines (before conversions), that's sufficient for most armies

I take your point, but it's still an issue for me. It's not just about each model in my army being unique if I'm honest, it's also how I know it's the same 22 guys across all armies out there. Stops it feeling like it's my dudes.

I know that might seem silly to some people though!

No, I perfectly understand your point, while I don't share your opinion.

You are collecting models and when you are playing, you are using models from your collection.

I built my Death Guard army because I thought the rules were fun to play, and I am only painting it so the army looks better on the battlefield. Having identical models doesn't bother me beyond some marine standing next to his clone - but that can be mitigated by just swapping heads, giving them slightly different paint jobs, etc.

There are multiple ways to have fun with WH40k

To be honest with Plague Marines it is not a problem. The problem comes with terminators. With how charactefull they are, when you have 2-3 Fly-nators with each other, it looks weird. Unless you have a full unit of Fly-nators, then they become their own uniform and theme.

 Galef wrote:
I does kinda annoy me that GW can focus on super disgusting decayed models and/or hyper violent themes, but heaven forbid they put out attractive half (or all) naked female figures.
Don't get me wrong, I like the plastic Daemonettes ok, but I wish some of them looked more like the old Diaz metal ones. Daemonettes are supposed to be alluring right up until it's too late, but the models seem to all represent that "Bilbo/Gollum" moment of their transformation.

I will never understand why violence is more ok to portray than sexuality. Especially in a miniature game that emphasizes aesthetics.
I don't know about any of you, but I'd rather look at (and spend time painting) an attractive female figure over some gross half-rotten corpse or bloody rage monster.

If I had to hazard a guess, I'd postulate it has to do with the current feminist movement, which puts huge emphasis on dressing modestly - to the point where they've driven women out of work because their job required them to dress in skimpy clothes (that those women nevertheless enjoyed their job was considered irrelevant).

I really don't want to turn this into a political discussion, but my point is that there isn't any comparable group protesting against violence in games. This isn't to say that no such groups exist, but rather that they lack the political clout and media attention available to the feminist movement.

I think Tyranids, Poxwalkers, Nurgle daemons, etc. are all fine. They Nurglings, for example, are very cartoonie. A friend of mine actually laughed at the Nurglings when I showed him a picture. He mentioned that he definitely wouldn't be scared of those and they didn't look scary. If there's any kind of concern for younger kids especially, at least in my opinion, it's models like Slaanesh Daemonettes and pretty much the entire Daughters of Khaine line. I have literally zero problem with having my entire Tyranid, Death Guard, and Magotkin of Nurgle armies on display for my two year old stepson to see. BUT, I started a thread about Daughters of Khaine to see if others thought they were kid friendly... after reading several responses and talking with my fiancee at the time (wife now), I decided against buying any Daughters of Khaine models until he's grown up a good bit more.

If there are any specific models that I think some younger players probably shouldn't see, I'd go with Daughters of Khaine and probably the vast majority of the rank and file of Slaanesh daemons (though I do understand why they are sculpted that way)

Just my $0.02

SG