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I've always wondered if the rebreathers some Marines wear are actually part of their helmets. That's confirmation that they are indeed. And, that the helmets can be separated into segments. Neat, if nothing else.

I like that Primaris marine, will probably pick him up. And as H.B.M.C says he is a lot better than the 30th Anniversary miniature.

Pretty cool Nighthaunt miniature as well, hopefully he does not break easily like some of that range.

The helmet design on the marine is cool, sure. I also like that he has different chest emblem. But overall it's a a bit meh. Doesn't really even look like a character, could be just a standard intercessor. I hoped that they would have at least introduced a new loadout option via this limited mini, like they did with that power fist captain. It is utterly bizarre that GW keeps producing these different lieutenants without actually giving them any interesting gear. Ultimately it is a Primaris with a rifle an I have plenty of those already.

 Barzam wrote:
I've always wondered if the rebreathers some Marines wear are actually part of their helmets. That's confirmation that they are indeed. And, that the helmets can be separated into segments. Neat, if nothing else.

They actually highlighted it as specific to the Primaris' armor with the Reivers first.

Not gonna lie though, I think I'll be getting him for my Raptors.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
The marine is woefully mediocre. I'm even more shocked considering the lack of wargear options on Primaris models. Why not a Primaris Captain or Lieutenant, etc. with bespoke wargear like a few of the other limited releases? Who's excited to rush in for a model with a bolter?

I'm all about monopose infantry models, but monopose characters with zero wargear options will be the death of this game for me going forward.

Always look on the bright side. It could be worse.

I actually really like that model, he's far cooler than the Leiutenant, in my opinion.

Love the Marine’s Bruce-Willis-in-Die-Hard hairline. Pretty cool miniature and taps into some of the helmet modularity Jes Goodwin hinted at in early WHTV interviews.

Or the italian ganster of prison break tv show!

The face is totally badass.

Really like the Nighthaunt. May get the Lieutenant as well.

 Crimson wrote:
The helmet design on the marine is cool, sure. I also like that he has different chest emblem. But overall it's a a bit meh. Doesn't really even look like a character, could be just a standard intercessor. I hoped that they would have at least introduced a new loadout option via this limited mini, like they did with that power fist captain. It is utterly bizarre that GW keeps producing these different lieutenants without actually giving them any interesting gear. Ultimately it is a Primaris with a rifle an I have plenty of those already.

It'd be nice if they had gone with a carbine/power sword, giving non-space wolves a carbine/melee weapon option for Lts.

If they'd made special rules for this one time only Lt. it would only have led to screams of outrage from those that couldn't get him, and pressure to release yet another unlimited one with the new loadout

so if they don't want to make the primeris jack of all trades like normal marines (yet), better not to give them variety even in LE minis

Oh, look, a Primaris Marine.

They're really not trying very hard with the commemorative minis any more, are they?

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
If they'd made special rules for this one time only Lt. it would only have led to screams of outrage from those that couldn't get him, and pressure to release yet another unlimited one with the new loadout

They did that with the captain, and that was great. It is not like the loadout is hard to kitbash.

so if they don't want to make the primeris jack of all trades like normal marines (yet), better not to give them variety even in LE minis

The character options are completely stupidly restrictive. Even a Intercessor sergeant (who has utterly crap options) has more options than a primaris lieutenant. They don't need to be jack of all trades, but damn, there need to be some variety. It is utterly bonkers that they cannot even have a sword with their rifle even though both captains and sergeants can.

 Crimson wrote:

The character options are completely stupidly restrictive. Even a Intercessor sergeant (who has utterly crap options) has more options than a primaris lieutenant. They don't need to be jack of all trades, but damn, there need to be some variety. It is utterly bonkers that they cannot even have a sword with their rifle even though both captains and sergeants can.

But if they give Lieutenants a sword, some other company might start making resin swords and profit off the lack of a model!


Or something. I dunno, presumably there's some logical reason for it, but I have no idea what it is.

I think the Primaris dude really highlights how bland and homogenous the whole line is. I feel like GW has done a ton of exciting stuff recently, but, despite even good sculpts, I haven't seriously considered getting any Primaris stuff... The line's inflexibility just means it doesn't really have any legs.

The ghost is sweet. Hopefully it doesn't have gak rules.

How much do these anniversary models typical cost?

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
How much do these anniversary models typical cost?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NL/30-Yrs-Of-40k-Primaris-Veteran-Sergeant-2017

 insaniak wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

The character options are completely stupidly restrictive. Even a Intercessor sergeant (who has utterly crap options) has more options than a primaris lieutenant. They don't need to be jack of all trades, but damn, there need to be some variety. It is utterly bonkers that they cannot even have a sword with their rifle even though both captains and sergeants can.

But if they give Lieutenants a sword, some other company might start making resin swords and profit off the lack of a model!

Except GW deliberately made sure Primaris hand is the same size as Squataris one so every single thirdparter (and their grandma too) already produce those...

But yeah, the restriction is idiotic. On one hand, there is no power sword in either Primaris unit so GW just told the players 'convert something yourself', on the other, Lieutenants have specific loadouts, even the SW one. He can have sword/pistol or rifle/axe. Doing say axe/pistol is verboten, even thought you don't even need to convert anything, there is plenty of pistol arms leftover from Primaris sergeants once you build them

 ImAGeek wrote:
I really like the Lieutenants head.

Agreed. The question is, is a really nice head worth buying a whole, expensive model that doesn't really offer anything else?

 insaniak wrote:
Oh, look, a Primaris Marine.

They're really not trying very hard with the commemorative minis any more, are they?

I disagree, they're trying very hard indeed...to pretend their history prior to AoS/Primarishammer 40,000 is a figment of our collective imagination. "Scratchbuilding? Posable multipart models? Specialist Games that came as complete products rather than bite-size(but still pricey) segments? Nah gov, no clue, you must be thinking of someone else - here, have a shiny shiny Primaris Marine, this one is lunging very slightly further to the left than the last one was!"

I'm curious to know how much these single-figure sprues cost to produce. Cuz if it's relatively cheap I'd hope GW could release some more variants of other HQs too, like a different farseer or ork boss. It'd be like all those older metal variants of days gone by.

*prepares to be disappointed*

Thing is, I'd love to buy more Primaris Marines. I am eagerly waiting GW to release new Primaris Marines. But I want something actually new, not the same thing I already have in a slightly different pose. I am not hard to please, I would have been happy with a guy with some weapons that were not an option before.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
I think the Primaris dude really highlights how bland and homogenous the whole line is. I feel like GW has done a ton of exciting stuff recently, but, despite even good sculpts, I haven't seriously considered getting any Primaris stuff... The line's inflexibility just means it doesn't really have any legs.

It's sad too because if they ventured a bit into some of the other Founding Chapters like Raven Guard, White Scars, or Salamanders or if they went a bit more the route they went with 'old' Marines where armor was a bit more ornate for the specific Chapters? It'd go a long way...as would some more dynamic posing.

Yeah, they don't even need to get too carried away with it... just some detailing on the armour that makes him look like it's not just a kitbash of the standard models with a new head would make a huge difference.

I suspect that part of the problem is that they're having to play it safe to ensure that these actually sell enough to justify making them... Making something overly Chapter-specific really limits the potential audience, which wasn't as big a problem when the models were metal, but is a much bigger problem when they need to pay for creation of a plastic sprue...

Full points for their Social Media guy trying his hardest to put a positive spin on it on Facebook, though... he has his work cut out for him.

There's nothing Ultramarines specific molded onto it. They paint the Primaris army to match, so Ultramarines it is.

 Crimson wrote:
Thing is, I'd love to buy more Primaris Marines. I am eagerly waiting GW to release new Primaris Marines. But I want something actually new, not the same thing I already have in a slightly different pose. I am not hard to please, I would have been happy with a guy with some weapons that were not an option before.

Oh for sure. Kinda like how the two captains have different weapons. The whole mono-pose angle might work to a degree, so long as the options are there. Bonus points if the weapons are interchangeable between characters.

 insaniak wrote:
Full points for their Social Media guy trying his hardest to put a positive spin on it on Facebook, though... he has his work cut out for him.

These are the same social media people who tried to spin why FW doubling their prices overnight was a good thing.

They deserve nothing.

Well, no chance for me to pick up either, but the ghost looks nice.

No surprise for 40K it is a Primaris marine, though for some reason those forehead studs make it look like to me that he is sweating.

As an aside, I remember that back in the States, for Games Day they had exclusive miniatures as well - weren’t they marines as well?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Full points for their Social Media guy trying his hardest to put a positive spin on it on Facebook, though... he has his work cut out for him.

These are the same social media people who tried to spin why FW doubling their prices overnight was a good thing.

They deserve nothing.

He kind of has to... That's his job. He's not responsible for the stupid decisions, just has to try to make the most of them, and most likely has a fairly narrow script to stick within to boot.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
I think the Primaris dude really highlights how bland and homogenous the whole line is. I feel like GW has done a ton of exciting stuff recently, but, despite even good sculpts, I haven't seriously considered getting any Primaris stuff... The line's inflexibility just means it doesn't really have any legs.

They do, they’re usually just part of the body now.


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 insaniak wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Full points for their Social Media guy trying his hardest to put a positive spin on it on Facebook, though... he has his work cut out for him.

These are the same social media people who tried to spin why FW doubling their prices overnight was a good thing.

They deserve nothing.

He kind of has to... That's his job. He's not responsible for the stupid decisions, just has to try to make the most of them, and most likely has a fairly narrow script to stick within to boot.

Indeed. “Yes I agree it sucks” <fired>

Not sure what some people expect from a corporate comms channel.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
I really like the Lieutenants head.

Agreed. The question is, is a really nice head worth buying a whole, expensive model that doesn't really offer anything else?

If you have a mate who wants to build a helmeted version, the head could become available.

I know I normally build these models with the helmet that also comes on the sprue. As the model is carrying the helmet there 'could' (pure speculation) be a variant arm as well.