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Tatooine is pretty mined out, anyway.

Gangsters? Done, done, done. No Jabba, No Bib, No replacement Hutts, No replacement rivals, no internal up and comers. Its all done.

Saarlac? Blowed up

Krayt dragon? Done that.

Unleash the sand Kraken? Barely filler.

Tuskens? Beat that drum to death and set it on fire.

Even did 'hero' vs Jawas, which was simply embarrassing.

Time to pack up Star Wars street and move to a new biome. Way past time, to be honest.

Really, about the only thing they haven't done is pop the seal on the Old Republic MMO lore and dig up the 'Infinite Empire' ruins under the sands. And wow, they don't need to muddy the waters with that.

Sand Kraken?

Voss wrote:
Tatooine is pretty mined out, anyway.

Gangsters? Done, done, done. No Jabba, No Bib, No replacement Hutts, No replacement rivals, no internal up and comers. Its all done.

Saarlac? Blowed up

Krayt dragon? Done that.

Unleash the sand Kraken? Barely filler.

Tuskens? Beat that drum to death and set it on fire.

Even did 'hero' vs Jawas, which was simply embarrassing.

Time to pack up Star Wars street and move to a new biome. Way past time, to be honest.

Really, about the only thing they haven't done is pop the seal on the Old Republic MMO lore and dig up the 'Infinite Empire' ruins under the sands. And wow, they don't need to muddy the waters with that.

Legit. I get that having new sets can be expensive, but reusing the same sand type planets and places that are basically "Not-Tatooine" is getting old real fast. Give me closer to something like Felucia, anything that isn't a bland set. I can see why Anakin hated sand lol

CadianSgtBob wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Luke never sees Reva's lightsaber. When she enters the room in the farm, he's already halfway out the roof hatch and never looks back, and once she's chasing him in the desert it's stowed, and he's unconscious for the last bit. She's just a robed stranger in the dark who he's been told prior is a Tusken.

Watched it again and you might be right, based on the timing I feel like Luke should have seen her with the lightsaber active coming through the door but on screen you never see him looking back.

It's very clear that while shooting they were being very careful not to let Luke see anything other than what he would assume is a Tusken, but yeah, when Beru makes her stand its edited in such a way that it feels like he should have seen her. Kind of a shame, because its very clear that a lot of people put a lot of thought into making sure there was a plausible explanation there, but the audience misses out feeling that way because it gets a little sloppy. It needs like one more shot of Luke cowering, hearing unclear noises and Beru telling him to run and I think it would have come across better.

I suspect that Reva will instead get her own show after this prequel one.

 AduroT wrote:
Sand Kraken?

The random monster the Boba chokes out with his unbreakable chains while hunting for magic water gourds as a Tusken slave for 5 minutes. Its basically the same design as the Kraken from the Harryhausen stop-motion Clash of the Titans movie (1981)

Voss wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
Sand Kraken?

The random monster the Boba chokes out with his unbreakable chains while hunting for magic water gourds as a Tusken slave for 5 minutes. Its basically the same design as the Kraken from the Harryhausen stop-motion Clash of the Titans movie (1981)

Right right, I remember that now. I was just trying to think of a big sand squid and couldn’t recall one.

 warboss wrote:
I suspect that Reva will instead get her own show after this prequel one.

GREAT! Then we can watch her meet Young Chewie and Han and they call all go have adventures dealing with crime syndicates run by Darth Maul. Welcome to Starwars Street Reva! But of course Reva will have to do all her force stuff when Han isn't looking so that he has plausible deniability for not believing in any of that force mumbo jumbo in A New Hope.

She shouldn't get gak. Get the feth out of this era.

 Lance845 wrote:

 warboss wrote:
I suspect that Reva will instead get her own show after this prequel one.

GREAT! Then we can watch her meet Young Chewie and Han and they call all go have adventures dealing with crime syndicates run by Darth Maul. Welcome to Starwars Street Reva! But of course Reva will have to do all her force stuff when Han isn't looking so that he has plausible deniability for not believing in any of that force mumbo jumbo in A New Hope.

She shouldn't get gak. Get the feth out of this era.

Agreed. The Galactic Civil War has been done to death and Disney's incessant need to tie in major existing characters will undermine what there is currently in that era. Completely new characters in a different timeline is really needed as a palette cleanser for all the memberberries they're trying to shove down people's throats.

Then nobody will watch it, complain about x, y or z just being a rip off of a, b or c or moan about why they aren't seeing more stories about [insert favourite character.]

The wins against this fanbase are nearly always pyrrhic at best.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Then nobody will watch it, complain about x, y or z just being a rip off of a, b or c or moan about why they aren't seeing more stories about [insert favourite character.]

The wins against this fanbase are nearly always pyrrhic at best.

see, for example, all the nerd rage we saw about the new lord of the rings series in production, for daring to have Galadriel wear armour and kicking ass in melee!

I, too was rather upset about it initially, though i have since come to understand that it WAS in character for Galadriel to do that (at least it was mentioned in Tolkien's writings), so i was wrong to think it was some new "woke" bs being made up.


Likewise, i don't think that exploration of time periods of star wars much before or after the existing set will see much success. theirs been a few attempts, but only the fall of the republic/clone wars era really stuck and became accepted. the Old republic has a few popular video games, but really its not anything like as popular. Unfortunatly, its just better business to keep circling around the same popular characters.

I mean, look at all the dislike of the new character they just created?

The new characters they created are all still interacting with and tied to the old characters. They had no room to be their own characters. Get way the hell out of here.

1000 years in the future. Everyone, Grogru included is dead. New characters. Interesting stories. Come up with a good story first. Not decide to make a show about a popular character and then work backwards to squeeze a story out them like some decaying piece of fruit.

 Lance845 wrote:
The new characters they created are all still interacting with and tied to the old characters. They had no room to be their own characters. Get way the hell out of here.

1000 years in the future. Everyone, Grogru included is dead. New characters. Interesting stories. Come up with a good story first. Not decide to make a show about a popular character and then work backwards to squeeze a story out them like some decaying piece of fruit.

Genuine open question on that.

Is it really a good idea?

The old EU did pre-OT stuff (with harbingers of stuff to come etc), but was otherwise a chronology following on.

If you jumped 1,000 years, and made it unrelated? Is it really Star Wars anymore(

xerxeskingofking wrote:


I mean, look at all the dislike of the new character they just created?

Well, it's a terribly written character shoved into one of the most defining and narrow plot lines of the entire saga. There was no way she was going to be well received, which, ironically, Disney even briefed the actress about.

 Grimskul wrote:
Agreed. The Galactic Civil War has been done to death and Disney's incessant need to tie in major existing characters will undermine what there is currently in that era. Completely new characters in a different timeline is really needed as a palette cleanser for all the memberberries they're trying to shove down people's throats.

New characters are needed. A new era isn't. A new Rogue Squadron series set in the OT era would be awesome. No main characters, no major plot events, just x-wings and TIE fighters dogfighting as god intended.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
The new characters they created are all still interacting with and tied to the old characters. They had no room to be their own characters. Get way the hell out of here.

1000 years in the future. Everyone, Grogru included is dead. New characters. Interesting stories. Come up with a good story first. Not decide to make a show about a popular character and then work backwards to squeeze a story out them like some decaying piece of fruit.

Genuine open question on that.

Is it really a good idea?

The old EU did pre-OT stuff (with harbingers of stuff to come etc), but was otherwise a chronology following on.

If you jumped 1,000 years, and made it unrelated? Is it really Star Wars anymore(

The KoToR games are very popular Starwars and they have nothing to do with anything in the OT or Skywalkers or any of that crap.

The question here is, is the universe of Starwars interesting enough to have other interesting stories without the main character small cluster of families? Force, Lightsabers, A entire galaxy of planets and aliens to tell stories with.

So is this franchise "Indiana Jones" or "Die Hard" where the "franchise" is literally about the adventures of a single person? Where jumping to a different person having different adventures in the world would be a weird thing to tell stories with? Or is what makes Star Wars Star Wars the universe it takes place in and there are plenty of opportunities to tell good stories out there?

The Mandolorian I think proves that you could separate and tell interesting narratives within the universe. That show doesn't need it's starwars street cameos to work. And I think they are some of the dullest parts of the show. Just get out there and do new stuff.

So legit question, which do you think it is?

I honestly don’t know.

Mando works because we get to see the fallout of ROTJ for the Little People, to some extent.

If it was 1,000 years from Endor? I genuinely do not know if I’d have enjoyed it as much, because it’s plots, scripts and setting are so inherently intertwined.

Having never played KotoR or the Old Republic MMO, I'd love to see some Old Republic era stuff. It's a period that never gets touched on in the canon verse and I think there's a comic series coming out soon that IIRC is set during the High Republic era. Going into the past you can show how things got to be a certain way and the origins of things like the Rule of Two. I mean sure we know it was Darth Bane who did it and he did it because the Sith destroyed each other, but I wanna see that and stuff like the Mandolorian Wars.

As for the 1000 years stuff, the stories of Star Wars rely on the period of the Republic and Empire to tie things together. You could tell the story of some future Star Wars people but you would have to make a Jedi character otherwise it's just sci-fi. And if there's a Jedi there's got to be some sort of Sith or Dark Side adepts kicking about and at that point why not just set it during the timespan we already know. I think you could maybe do a short like Visions but a full series set well after everything is dead and gone? That would be much harder to sell.

High Republic comic series has been coming out for a good while now actually. Not one I’ve read any of myself though.

People remember this is happening, right?

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/The_Acolyte#:~:text=The%20Acolyte%20is%20a%20Star,of%20the%20High%20Republic%20Era.

One of the most popular (even though the second game got its budget slashed and they ran out of cash) RPG games for Starwars was set 1000 years before and that had some really fantastic things including one Sith lord flying around in his own personal undead space ship.


I do see value in taking the story outside of the core timeline period. It releases you from all, or most of the classic characters dominating the narrative. It also means you don't end up messing things up by having so much happen in so little time to so few characters that you can't imagine how things knit together. However I think one thing we've seen to SW's detriment under Disney is that there's no sense of any overarching plot. There's no Tolkien or Pratchett or anyone holding the reins for the lore in itself. That creates a lore ripe for being pulled apart because different teams take different directions and can't all coordinate even if they wanted too.

Even GW, who are pretty hot on controlling their own lore, have issues with that.


Personally I'd love to see them explore time periods outside of the core. Go back and lets see a young Yoda rise to power; or lets go forward.

Of course the other option is going sideways. They've a whole galaxy to play with. In theory they could do LOADS of same timeline stories that never go anywhere close to the core characters. Rebellions on worlds far from the main actities; whole wars can be conducted won and lost.

 Gert wrote:
Having never played KotoR or the Old Republic MMO, I'd love to see some Old Republic era stuff. It's a period that never gets touched on in the canon verse and I think there's a comic series coming out soon that IIRC is set during the High Republic era. Going into the past you can show how things got to be a certain way and the origins of things like the Rule of Two. I mean sure we know it was Darth Bane who did it and he did it because the Sith destroyed each other, but I wanna see that and stuff like the Mandolorian Wars.

As for the 1000 years stuff, the stories of Star Wars rely on the period of the Republic and Empire to tie things together. You could tell the story of some future Star Wars people but you would have to make a Jedi character otherwise it's just sci-fi. And if there's a Jedi there's got to be some sort of Sith or Dark Side adepts kicking about and at that point why not just set it during the timespan we already know. I think you could maybe do a short like Visions but a full series set well after everything is dead and gone? That would be much harder to sell.

Or, and hear me out here, it could be so far in the future that the dynamic of force users is changed. Yes. There are force users. And yes, there are different styles including "dark side" "light side". But they don't have to be weird religious monks or facists despots. There could just be people with an interesting story and some force users on the team. In fact, how cool could it be to have some smuggler crew or some crap with one of the main characters being a dark side user who taps into his/her emotions in a fight?

The WORLD of Starwars is interesting. You just need good writers to write a good story set in it's universe.

I think forward or back you can go too far and change too much and then its not starwars any more. I think one of the strengths of KotoR was that it wasn't too different. There were still landmarks we knew about - sith and jedi and such. Concepts that allowed them to focus on the story rather than rebuilding the entire world setting.

I think you have ot keep some of that otherwise you're going so far off the track that it is indeed no longer starwars.

 Azreal13 wrote:
People remember this is happening, right?

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/The_Acolyte#:~:text=The%20Acolyte%20is%20a%20Star,of%20the%20High%20Republic%20Era.

I think it's a really terrible idea to start a the tv/movie version of the High Republic at the end of it. We should have a few years of the high republic being the high republic before we see it's fall.

Imagine watching Infinity War as the first marvel movie and then going BACK and showing people iron man 1.

Well, plodding through finale now (this week has been a lot).

Its... well. I'm at the mid-point climax and I'm bored enough to post about it. Because that's a fethload of padding.

'I'm gonna leave and draw them off' 10 minutes later...

Imperials incapable of multitasking simple problems

Kenobi gets superpowers from the love of children he barely knows. Gets bored, goes home.

Lightspeed travel between systems apparently takes zero time again.

Secondary character continues her zero stakes struggle with a trigger that we know for a fact that she isn't going to pull, and had no real reason to go looking for.

Vader calls the Emperor for therapy. Gets over it.


I guess that's one way to get everybody back to their Episode 4 starting marks, but they might as well not have done it at all. (And now Leia knows Kenobi far too well, and knows for a fact that he knows who her biological parents are? Cool. That needed to happen). Though oddly McGregor looks so much younger in this part (blah, blah hope or whatever), but Kenobi will have to age a good 30+ years in the next 10 in-universe years.

Feel bad about whatever happens to that droid in the next ten years, though.
Odd amount of not-quite-right recycled dialogue. Dismissed it the first time, but it happened a couple more times.

Ol' Quaff Down Gin looked out of scale and nothing so much as a tiny leprechaun. Very surreal.

Yeah, so, that did manage to be worse than Book of Bad Boba. I didn't think that was possible, but its such a dull, directionless and pointless story.

Voss wrote:
Vader calls the Emperor for therapy. Gets over it.

To be fair, no he doesn't. Palpatine threatens to replace Vader so he drops the issue for now. We know he doesn't let it go because he brings it back up in Rebels. That scene is actually very interesting seeing the difference between Sam Witwer's version and Ian McDiarmid's.



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 Lance845 wrote:
Or, and hear me out here, it could be so far in the future that the dynamic of force users is changed. Yes. There are force users. And yes, there are different styles including "dark side" "light side". But they don't have to be weird religious monks or facists despots. There could just be people with an interesting story and some force users on the team. In fact, how cool could it be to have some smuggler crew or some crap with one of the main characters being a dark side user who taps into his/her emotions in a fight?

I agree that's a good premise but once again as a short story.

The WORLD of Starwars is interesting. You just need good writers to write a good story set in it's universe.

Again, sort of. People watch Star Wars movies and shows for the big names and places. The Mandolorian was super popular because it was a character from a very popular group in the Star Wars universe. Replace him with a random cowboy bounty hunter and it's not the same, good writer or not. The institutions provide hooks for stories to be told and it's much easier to tell a story with an established base than it is to just make one up.

 Gert wrote:

Voss wrote:
Vader calls the Emperor for therapy. Gets over it.

To be fair, no he doesn't. Palpatine threatens to replace Vader so he drops the issue for now. We know he doesn't let it go because he brings it back up in Rebels. That scene is actually very interesting seeing the difference between Sam Witwer's version and Ian McDiarmid's.

Spoiler:

He expresses a vague, mild interest in Kenobi and quietly accepts 'perhaps' as answer and is fine with sending somebody else. In both versions. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at, but that wasn't someone who was still worked up about anything.
Not sure why they even bothered to re-dub that, either.

The delivery is different. Witwer's version is more friendly "maybe but I don't want to talk about it" whereas McDiarmid's is dismissive "For god's sake just stop" with regards to Kenobi. It's the difference between someone who is still manipulating Vader with false hope and someone who is trying to get Vader to do his job hunting all the Jedi.
Maybe that's just me but it's still very clear Vader absolutely doesn't drop his hunt for Kenobi at the end of this series. Palpatine is also saying to despatch Inquisitors to hunt down the Spectres and Ahsoka, not Kenobi.

 Gert wrote:

Voss wrote:
Vader calls the Emperor for therapy. Gets over it.

To be fair, no he doesn't. Palpatine threatens to replace Vader so he drops the issue for now. We know he doesn't let it go because he brings it back up in Rebels. That scene is actually very interesting seeing the difference between Sam Witwer's version and Ian McDiarmid's.

Spoiler:

This is only an acceptable explanation if 1) Palatine for some reason didn't want or didn't care if Obi Wan was found (and he clearly wants all the Jedi found because he made the damn inquisitors to go do that exact thing with those inquisitors answering to Vader.) and 2) Palatine didn't want to stoke Vader's anger (Which he spent 2 movies and 4 seasons of the clone wars doing non stop to fuel his fall to the dark side and teach him how to harness it as a source of power. So why tell him to calm down now?)

I's actually just out of character for Palpatine to not send Vader and the Inquisitors to pursue Obi Wan.

Palpating is also none too keen to let Vader find out his kids are alive…