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2018/10/19 00:30:03
Subject: My talk with ADB more or less confirming the Emperor is not from the DAOT
The OP certainly lives up to his namesake, he likes to repeats 1 thing over and over a lot.
I am just saying, as ADB said, we can be reasonably sure the Emperor is not DAOT. And besides, Zu was an unreliable narrator being an enemy of the Emperor.
2018/10/19 00:41:07
Subject: My talk with ADB more or less confirming the Emperor is not from the DAOT
The OP certainly lives up to his namesake, he likes to repeats 1 thing over and over a lot.
I am just saying, as ADB said, we can be reasonably sure the Emperor is not DAOT. And besides, Zu was an unreliable narrator being an enemy of the Emperor.
The main issue behind your repetitiveness is that you've discussed this train of thought across several threads, often in the wrong subforums, when you only really need one thread for this and it doesn't really lead to anymore discussion, especially since you don't engage in conversation other than by quote dumping and repeating the same statements ad nauseum. It comes across as spam and makes it so people don't want to engage at all.
2018/10/19 00:41:58
Subject: My talk with ADB more or less confirming the Emperor is not from the DAOT
The OP certainly lives up to his namesake, he likes to repeats 1 thing over and over a lot.
I am just saying, as ADB said, we can be reasonably sure the Emperor is not DAOT. And besides, Zu was an unreliable narrator being an enemy of the Emperor.
The main issue behind your repetitiveness is that you've discussed this train of thought across several threads, often in the wrong subforums, when you only really need one thread for this and it doesn't really lead to anymore discussion, especially since you don't engage in conversation other than by quote dumping and repeating the same statements ad nauseum. It comes across as spam and makes it so people don't want to engage at all.
Sorry about putting a lot of it in the wrong forums. But I learned from that and read the rules.
2018/10/19 00:43:13
Subject: My talk with ADB more or less confirming the Emperor is not from the DAOT
The OP certainly lives up to his namesake, he likes to repeats 1 thing over and over a lot.
I am just saying, as ADB said, we can be reasonably sure the Emperor is not DAOT. And besides, Zu was an unreliable narrator being an enemy of the Emperor.
The main issue behind your repetitiveness is that you've discussed this train of thought across several threads, often in the wrong subforums, when you only really need one thread for this and it doesn't really lead to anymore discussion, especially since you don't engage in conversation other than by quote dumping and repeating the same statements ad nauseum. It comes across as spam and makes it so people don't want to engage at all.
Sorry about putting a lot of it in the wrong forums. But I learned from that and read the rules.
Have you? This is clearly Background subforum material but you posted it here.
2018/10/19 00:47:42
Subject: My talk with ADB more or less confirming the Emperor is not from the DAOT
The OP certainly lives up to his namesake, he likes to repeats 1 thing over and over a lot.
I am just saying, as ADB said, we can be reasonably sure the Emperor is not DAOT. And besides, Zu was an unreliable narrator being an enemy of the Emperor.
The main issue behind your repetitiveness is that you've discussed this train of thought across several threads, often in the wrong subforums, when you only really need one thread for this and it doesn't really lead to anymore discussion, especially since you don't engage in conversation other than by quote dumping and repeating the same statements ad nauseum. It comes across as spam and makes it so people don't want to engage at all.
Sorry about putting a lot of it in the wrong forums. But I learned from that and read the rules.
Have you? This is clearly Background subforum material but you posted it here.
Its technically not background material, as it does not discuss any lore, but my talk with ADB.
2018/10/19 00:57:09
Subject: My talk with ADB more or less confirming the Emperor is not from the DAOT
The OP certainly lives up to his namesake, he likes to repeats 1 thing over and over a lot.
I am just saying, as ADB said, we can be reasonably sure the Emperor is not DAOT. And besides, Zu was an unreliable narrator being an enemy of the Emperor.
The main issue behind your repetitiveness is that you've discussed this train of thought across several threads, often in the wrong subforums, when you only really need one thread for this and it doesn't really lead to anymore discussion, especially since you don't engage in conversation other than by quote dumping and repeating the same statements ad nauseum. It comes across as spam and makes it so people don't want to engage at all.
Sorry about putting a lot of it in the wrong forums. But I learned from that and read the rules.
Have you? This is clearly Background subforum material but you posted it here.
Its technically not background material, as it does not discuss any lore, but my talk with ADB.
Wut. How is talking about the Emperor not being DAOT tech not about the lore. It's the crux of your conversation with ADB. That is lore, even if its from another website.
2018/10/19 01:00:51
Subject: My talk with ADB more or less confirming the Emperor is not from the DAOT
The OP certainly lives up to his namesake, he likes to repeats 1 thing over and over a lot.
I am just saying, as ADB said, we can be reasonably sure the Emperor is not DAOT. And besides, Zu was an unreliable narrator being an enemy of the Emperor.
The main issue behind your repetitiveness is that you've discussed this train of thought across several threads, often in the wrong subforums, when you only really need one thread for this and it doesn't really lead to anymore discussion, especially since you don't engage in conversation other than by quote dumping and repeating the same statements ad nauseum. It comes across as spam and makes it so people don't want to engage at all.
Sorry about putting a lot of it in the wrong forums. But I learned from that and read the rules.
Have you? This is clearly Background subforum material but you posted it here.
Its technically not background material, as it does not discuss any lore, but my talk with ADB.
Wut. How is talking about the Emperor not being DAOT tech not about the lore. It's the crux of your conversation with ADB. That is lore, even if its from another website.
Alright. But I thought it would not be background since it mostly dealt with my talk with ADB.
And because I thought it would not fit into background since it was mostly talking with an author.
Anyway, have a nice day.
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2018/10/19 01:00:56
Subject: My talk with ADB more or less confirming the Emperor is not from the DAOT
The OP certainly lives up to his namesake, he likes to repeats 1 thing over and over a lot.
I am just saying, as ADB said, we can be reasonably sure the Emperor is not DAOT. And besides, Zu was an unreliable narrator being an enemy of the Emperor.
The main issue behind your repetitiveness is that you've discussed this train of thought across several threads, often in the wrong subforums, when you only really need one thread for this and it doesn't really lead to anymore discussion, especially since you don't engage in conversation other than by quote dumping and repeating the same statements ad nauseum. It comes across as spam and makes it so people don't want to engage at all.
Sorry about putting a lot of it in the wrong forums. But I learned from that and read the rules.
Have you? This is clearly Background subforum material but you posted it here.
Its technically not background material, as it does not discuss any lore, but my talk with ADB.
Wut. How is talking about the Emperor not being DAOT tech not about the lore. It's the crux of your conversation with ADB. That is lore, even if its from another website.
Alright. But I thought it would not be background since it mostly dealt with my talk with ADB.
Right, but said convo with ADB was about lore to begin with, so that would be background. It's like saying if you brought up a story about you talking about Trump with a local mayor isn't about politics, when the content involved in said story is inherently political by nature.
2018/10/19 01:04:35
Subject: My talk with ADB more or less confirming the Emperor is not from the DAOT
Onething123456 wrote: Its technically not background material, as it does not discuss any lore, but my talk with ADB.
Well to be fair as far as I can see you haven't "Discussed" lore with anybody. From the threads I've read today you just seem to make an assertion, and then repeat said assertion periodically throughout the thread with a few book quotes thrown in from time to time.
2018/10/19 01:06:29
Subject: Re:My talk with ADB more or less confirming the Emperor is not from the DAOT
I think the OP needs to give a more coherent and well thought out response, and I think everyone else needs to take into consideration that sometimes, full awareness and perspective are not so easy for some people.
Its been said many times in this forum, before this thread; that the lore is never set in stone. GW changes it, players will want to believe whatever it is they want to believe. And GW is perfectly okay with that too, and they encourage it. That being said, speculation is not something where one or more people are trying to push an agenda/theory off to everyone else as a fact.
When people were saying they THINK the Emperor was from DAOT tech, (whatever the hell that means) they were simply speculating, and while you are allowed to strongly disagree with it, going through effort to disprove such a theory is poor use of your time. Although that in itself is also subjective. You can use your time however you want.
The reason why people were speculating was because there is little evidence in lore to suggest a certainty of The Emperors history. And on that same note, even books written about 40K are subjective to an authors interpretation. So not even authors can give you a definitive answer. Ultimately, it is up to 40K fans to favor whatever theory they find is the best fit with other pieces of lore.
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I will forever remain humble because I know I could have less.
I will always be grateful because I remember I've had less.
2018/10/19 02:51:31
Subject: My talk with ADB more or less confirming the Emperor is not from the DAOT
I think the interesting part about that Reddit discussion was ADB talking about different writers having their preferred favourite theories, just like us fans do. Whilst this is not surprising, it highlights how this thing works, the writers themselves do not know how the things 'really' are any more than us do. Some writer might drop some hints to their favourite theory in their work, but they avoid confirming too much.
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Crimson wrote: I think the interesting part about that Reddit discussion was ADB talking about different writers having their preferred favourite theories, just like us fans do. Whilst this is not surprising, it highlights how this thing works, the writers themselves do not know how the things 'really are any more than us do. Some writer might drop some hints to their favourite theory in their work, but they avoid confirming too much.
yeah, Bligh wasn't exactly some minor functionary, the fact that it was his personal fav theory suggests it's NOT exactly an "out there one" yes one could argue Master of Mankind suggests the shaman theory most strongly but at the same time I could see a future reveal of "SUPRISE! THOSE WHERE FALSE MEMORIES IMPLANTED BY HIS CREATORS!"
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
2018/10/19 04:41:19
Subject: My talk with ADB more or less confirming the Emperor is not from the DAOT
Honestly, the idea that the Emperor is a false god of sorts cooked up in a lab at some point seems a lot more grimdark than the idea that he really is the super-saviour of mankind from ancient times.
2018/10/19 05:19:29
Subject: My talk with ADB more or less confirming the Emperor is not from the DAOT
While I haven't read all of the books quoted in this thread, nor am I familiar enough with ADB's work in general to comment on how authoritative a quote from him can be, it's safe to say the Emperor's origins are circa 1982 Nottingham England.
He was imported from Frank Herbert novels. And that's really all there is to know about it.
40k fluff changes based on the author. Making the case that something is true today means you are going to be wrong tomorrow.
TheWaspinator wrote: Honestly, the idea that the Emperor is a false god of sorts cooked up in a lab at some point seems a lot more grimdark than the idea that he really is the super-saviour of mankind from ancient times.
yeah, and he could geninuely BELIVE he has been around for ages, but perpetuals remember meeting him. ok, so... here's an Emperor theory for ya'll..
at the closing of the dark age of technology the emperor was an immensely powerful warlord, a man in whom the order of sigialites saw promise. the order of sigalites realized that their time was done and that they could do no more to safeguard humanity, another approuch was needed, so all of them, save Malcador, whom they appointed to serve as an advisor to this newly empowered man, killed themselves in a ritual, that grated the power of their souls to the Emperor's. one of the amaingly powerful things the empeoer can do, that no other psyker could, is use his mastery of the warp to travel through time! the emperor has routinely gone back in time to attempt to nudge things closer to what he wants, but everyttime he does so it useally just leads to more problems as a butterfly effect. The Cabal are, unbeknowest to them, actually SERVING a plot of the Emperor's. as he attempted to "correct" the heresy as best he could.
TLDR.... the world of warhammer 40k, is quite literally the best the emperor could manage after several tries.
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
2018/10/19 05:51:47
Subject: My talk with ADB more or less confirming the Emperor is not from the DAOT
My talk with ADB on Reddit shows him saying we can safely say the Emperor is not DAOT. So I do not know why people keep saying the Emperor might be DAOT tech. And I am not going to be hostile in this thread, I am just saying that the Emperor is "safely" not DAOT tech going by my talk with ADB on Reddit.
SHUPPET wrote: This myth that nothing is canon just because GW retcons is hilarious. People don't understand what canon means
When we have GW themselves stating nothing in 40k is really absolute truth...no wonder people say so. That's the official GW stance. Saying otherwise means thus you claim to know better than you know the guys who write it.
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2018/10/19 09:48:44
Subject: My talk with ADB more or less confirming the Emperor is not from the DAOT
