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Now, I've asked this in so many words before a good time ago. But I've re-visited the idea recently and the other thread is long dead, so here we go.

I want to start a second army with lots of good kit-bashing opportunity, and I think I would like to make 'Sirens in space', as per my original second army idea.

The problem I am facing is that I can't figure out what a good army would be to represent this concept. I've narrowed it down to three by myself, but I'm open to suggestions for other factions if you think I did not consider them enough.

1: Inquisition with Imperial friends.
I could re skin any regular imperial faction to be what I'm imagining, but I'm worried that it might be hard to rationalize the Imperium employing what is essentially an Abhuman with more 'loose' cutures that might feed the Slaanesh...

2: Slaanesh (but Tasteful)
I've never been extraordinarily fond of the execution behind Slaanesh daemons models, but I read this bit of lore off a wiki recently. Basically it describes the "Ladies of the Voids" which actually ARE sirens in space, so it lends credibility to my idea I may need to consider. (bonus question, how accurate/canonical is that fluff, if you know?)

3: Tyranids or Genestealer Cults representing a Minor Xenos
These will be the most of a stretch. I would have to re-skin the army completely and then I couldn't use any faction models as a base.

What do you guys think? Any suggestions?

Dark Eldar Wych cult springs to mind?

craftworld/drukhari/harlequin soup force kitbashed with AoS sea elves bits.

Hm... Not bad ideas. I wasn't thinking of doing Eldar because I am not too sold on the fluff behind them (not that it's bad, it just doen't relate to me as well as other factions might. Then again neither does Slaanesh, so maybe...)

I Iike the idea of adding sea elf bits! I what already looking into AoS Banshee's for bits, so I will keep that idea in mind.

 Lazzamore wrote:
Hm... Not bad ideas. I wasn't thinking of doing Eldar because I am not too sold on the fluff behind them (not that it's bad, it just doen't relate to me as well as other factions might. Then again neither does Slaanesh, so maybe...)

I Iike the idea of adding sea elf bits! I what already looking into AoS Banshee's for bits, so I will keep that idea in mind.

crewmen? insane horde? beautifull daemon?

I mean you could go take the R&H army list for troops, and cross in some Daemon allies?

(also since FW pulled the trigger on the R&H line you are basically free to do as you please, not to mention they got acess to a lot more pdf /crewman like weapon options, from brutal assult weapons which is literally everything to club someone , to shotguns and lasguns and autoguns. All of this with no limit, also not particulary reliable, but would make for a lot of intersting conversions?)

I like that, actually... Though If I can I'd want to get by with only one codex that's preferable, rather then buying the FW book and a daemons codex.

Here's a question; Would there be anyway to portray a 40k-ified Sirens as an Abhuman in the Imperium, in anyone's opinion?

 Lazzamore wrote:
I like that, actually... Though If I can I'd want to get by with only one codex that's preferable, rather then buying the FW book and a daemons codex.

Here's a question; Would there be anyway to portray a 40k-ified Sirens as an Abhuman in the Imperium, in anyone's opinion?

Wellp, to run a full R&H army you need AM codex, Index FW AM. (Granted mutants are allready a option in there)

Alternatively take the IG codex and beginn modyfieng, Ogryins as Huge mutants, conscript as small crewman, that went insane, Veterans as the new followship of the Siren, (however one explains that) Ratlings as small mutants, Crusaders? as religious fanatics.
Propperly built i guess IG can deliver you what you want.

 Lazzamore wrote:
I like that, actually... Though If I can I'd want to get by with only one codex that's preferable, rather then buying the FW book and a daemons codex.

Here's a question; Would there be anyway to portray a 40k-ified Sirens as an Abhuman in the Imperium, in anyone's opinion?

Seeing they apparently have catgirls (no, seriously) and the beastmen seem to be coming back, probably. Not in more zealous parts, but there are places that would accept them.

As for the book, yeah, either demons of slaanesh, dark eldar, harlequins, or perhaps sisters of battle (due to weird ministorum mook bodyguards being good base for a lot of stuff)?

Harlequins with the Silent Shroud masque tactics is what I would use.

I'm assuming you want a pure proxy force - not caring about the original lore of the army and just going for the gameplay "feel" of a faction here, and I think Silent Shroud fits perfectly.

The models are light, T3 infantry protected by invulnerable saves and - to hit, representing that they avoid being shot/enemies are unwillin gto shoot them rather than them deflecting bullets.

The leadership games the army plays represents the enemy soldiers being enthralled by the sirens and ceasing to fight entirely.

Run a load of fusion guns in your harlequin squads to quickly blow up vehicles, and focus your infantry killing efforts on doing as much through LD shenanigans as you can. Death Jesters can represent longer ranged more powerful sirens and the regular harlequins can be the line troops.

the_scotsman wrote:
Harlequins with the Silent Shroud masque tactics is what I would use.

I'm assuming you want a pure proxy force - not caring about the original lore of the army and just going for the gameplay "feel" of a faction here, and I think Silent Shroud fits perfectly.

The models are light, T3 infantry protected by invulnerable saves and - to hit, representing that they avoid being shot/enemies are unwillin gto shoot them rather than them deflecting bullets.

The leadership games the army plays represents the enemy soldiers being enthralled by the sirens and ceasing to fight entirely.

Run a load of fusion guns in your harlequin squads to quickly blow up vehicles, and focus your infantry killing efforts on doing as much through LD shenanigans as you can. Death Jesters can represent longer ranged more powerful sirens and the regular harlequins can be the line troops.

Mhm, that would work, and seeing as I have the harlequins book already (previous project that's didn't pan out like I hoped) That might be what I do. Either that or guard. I'm gonna look into that, thanks

Necromunda Escher gang maybe? In keeping with the elves theme I'd kitbash and run some of the AOS wood elves/dark elves models. Cool idea btw.

Alright, so I've decided that the Harlequins aren't exactly the best fit for this in Fluff, and I had an idea that used the imperium. It's a bit wordy (my armies proposed backstory, essentially), so I posted it in "Dakka Fiction", but should I also post it here?

 Lazzamore wrote:
I like that, actually... Though If I can I'd want to get by with only one codex that's preferable, rather then buying the FW book and a daemons codex.

Here's a question; Would there be anyway to portray a 40k-ified Sirens as an Abhuman in the Imperium, in anyone's opinion?

Pelagers (Homo sapiens oceanus) - Pelagers have either evolved or were genetically altered during the Dark Age of Technology to live on Ocean Worlds, those habitable planets of the galaxy almost entirely covered in liquid water. They possess a set of both gills and lungs, and other adaptations for an aquatic lifestyle such as webbed hands and feet. They are a common sight on such worlds of the Imperium, but virtually unknown everywhere else.

There is an abuman strain for every situation.