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Absolutely beautiful work above Cyel, really enjoyed looking at the painted miniatures you have posted over the past few pages.

You have convinced me to give Contrast paints a go with results like that!

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Happy to hear that! Contrasts are so quick, easy and fun it's almost like having them prepainted

As always, remember not to neglect bases - even simple ones improve the looks of even mediocre models by a lot.
   
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I've been really happy with contrasts. They effectively act as a base coat and wash and look great as long as you do highlights after.
   
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On an Express Elevator to Hell!!

They are actually one of the reasons I'm seriously considering getting into this game.

The last mass-battle army I finished (if I discount Epic, which is kind of cheating) was a Vampire Counts army for WHFB 6th edition, so a while ago! It's just such an investment of time and energy, and blocks out all other hobby activity if there is other stuff you are interested in, so cutting down on the number of coats and overall painting time needed is a big thumbs up.

Now just have to settle on a bloody starter set..


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 LunarSol wrote:
I've been really happy with contrasts. They effectively act as a base coat and wash and look great as long as you do highlights after.


Have you checked the battle report I sent you on the previous page as a comment to your statement that games with premeasuring break down on threat ranges?

And with Asoiaf's less decisive alpha there's even less need for making charges unreliable IMO.
   
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Cyel wrote:

Have you checked the battle report I sent you on the previous page as a comment to your statement that games with premeasuring break down on threat ranges?

And with Asoiaf's less decisive alpha there's even less need for making charges unreliable IMO.


It's a well played game. A lot of players panic in that situation, but definitely well leveraged the advantage of having a surplus of pawns to sacrifice. One of Warmachine's greatest strengths is that it refuses to simplify unit interaction and allows for this sort of thing, though often to the detriment of it's iconic warjacks. Also a huge part of that win is just that Alexia solves a LOT of scenario problems. Without some of her rather loose ways to manipulate models, that game would have gone the other way on scenario pretty quick, which is the kind of games where I see the problem more often. A lot of times you see situations, particularly with the circle zones where a player is able to safely threaten anything that's put in the zone. That may just be an issue with those 12" circles in general I suppose, but I've definitely seen the ugly versions of this matchup where Connie goes first.
   
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Yeah, I guess that's what I was hoping for with Asoiaf when I heard it's a great competitive game - more skilled maneuvering and perfecting my positioning. The game being more about dialing wound counters up and down with cards and special skills was an unfortunate surprise.
   
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Cyel wrote:
Yeah, I guess that's what I was hoping for with Asoiaf when I heard it's a great competitive game - more skilled maneuvering and perfecting my positioning. The game being more about dialing wound counters up and down with cards and special skills was an unfortunate surprise.


That is why I did not buy into the game. It reminded me too much of AOS design - just played a little differently.
   
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It's still a neat little wargame-boardgame hybrid, just not something I was hoping it to be.
   
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On an Express Elevator to Hell!!

Finally took the plunge and got a good deal on the main Stark vs. Lannister starter set.

Now going to be borrowing Cyel's very helpful painting guide using Contrasts on the last page

Have only spent an hour reading through the rules, which seem nicely focussed - I'll be honest I don't see much of AoS in there other than the buffing elements (which I think to be fair is probably one of the few positive elements of that ruleset).

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Nordor

Cyel wrote:
Happy to hear that! Contrasts are so quick, easy and fun it's almost like having them prepainted

As always, remember not to neglect bases - even simple ones improve the looks of even mediocre models by a lot.


Hey Buddy,

just found your bunch of beatifully painted models with contrast paints. They look really great. Would you mind giving a short intro how you painted all the lannister/neutral units (there is currently just the Tut for the stark units, right?)? Maybe just a short list of the paints with the order you painted them?

Bye,
Stoni
   
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I haven't been very active but I'd like to come in for a bit and say that my entering into the game has been postponed due to an injury I have sustained. Hopefully I'll be back and work and be able to enter the game next year, which should also hopefully allow me to be a bit more active here as well.

Just so you know I haven't given up on this project or faded into the void.
   
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On an Express Elevator to Hell!!

Oh dear well hopefully it's not an injury that stops you painting Gurkhal!

I have got hold of the starter set too so have an awful lot of painting to do over the Christmas hols! Hopefully the contrast paints, and the very helpful guide on the previous page, will help

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 Pacific wrote:
Oh dear well hopefully it's not an injury that stops you painting Gurkhal!


Thanks, but I'm afraid I am returning pretty fresh to the hobby and so have neither miniatures nor paints in my home at this point, and the combination of not being able to work alongside of medical bills makes me unable to get either of them for now. :(
   
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I've heard there's some tules update coming in January. Is it true? I can't find any info anywhere, including the official Cmon website.
   
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On an Express Elevator to Hell!!

Has anyone done any work on their minis recently or got involved with the game?

I have finally started getting some stuff together to paint (just some Stark Sworn Swords for starters) and started using the War Council App - which is extremely useful.

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I picked up Night Watch Heroes 2 but haven't really been playing. It's a fine game for sure, but not one of my top priorities at the moment.
   
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Affton, MO. USA

 Pacific wrote:
Has anyone done any work on their minis recently or got involved with the game?

I have finally started getting some stuff together to paint (just some Stark Sworn Swords for starters) and started using the War Council App - which is extremely useful.


I just bought into the game in the last week. Bought the Free Folk starter, The Giant Special Characters and the War Mammoths. Also picked up a damaged copy of the Lannister army box for $30 . I haven't taken any pictures yet, but also just this morning found another gaming store 15 minutes from my house that carries ASOIAF and GW, but mainly a card game shop.

LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13

I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 
   
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I have played maybe a dozen games and unfortunately didn't love it. I liked how movement is solved, very elegant and the politics worker placement is a nice touch.

The game was too predictable, though, and I don't mean randomness. I actually like only a little randomness in games. Random charges are an awful solution and disorderly charge is probably one single dumbest rule I have seen in a while.

By predictable I mean that when a player's turn comes they have a choice of 2, maybe 3 sensible moves and just perform one of them. No surprises. My main wargame is Warmachine and it is so exciting to think a situation one of the players is in is insurmountable only to see them use the game's toolbox so creatively and cleverly that to everyone's surprise they manage to get out of trouble.

I haven't experienced this in Asoiaf, player moves are predictable and obvious and as a result the game also is prone to snowballing -first person to get an early upper hand is going to win most of the time.
   
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I don't hate random charges. It's a somewhat reasonable solution to the issue of binary threat advantage. Having a 1" threat advantage isn't quite as all powerful and in a way I kind of like that. I always thing random charge range coupled with static ranged attack range is a bit weird though.

The predictable critique is interesting. I hadn't used that word myself, but it rings true. I think I've used "mechanical" in the past to describe it and I appreciate the thought.
   
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 LunarSol wrote:
I don't hate random charges. It's a somewhat reasonable solution to the issue of binary threat advantage. Having a 1" threat advantage isn't quite as all powerful and in a way I kind of like that. I always thing random charge range coupled with static ranged attack range is a bit weird though.



My main wargame is Warmachine and there threat ranges are static, but the game gives players a deep toolbox of things they can do to lessen the impact of the opponent having a few inches of threat range advantage. Baiting, jamming, sacrificing, redirecting, screening, using terrain, buffing/debuffing, clever scenario play ... all depending on players' decisions and choices. In my opinion it makes for a much more engaging game than a one where you just generate a random number to arbitrarily tell you whether what you are attempting to do makes any sense or not.
   
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Affton, MO. USA

Got to sit n and watch a game yesterday. A lot easier to grasp (for me) in person than watching videos.

Lannister’s bent the knee to a Greyjoy army on turn 2 or 3. It really was decisive, but only because of the Greyjoy’s passing every dice test and the Lannister’s botching every roll. Sometime luck is not on your side.

My Free Folk army is growing

Have:

FF starter
FF characters boxes 1+2 (more giants)
Followers of bone
Thenns

Just ordered neutral characters box (miniature Market sale)

Also have a Lannister starter box
Lannister attachment box

And a Stark attachment box.

LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13

I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 
   
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Ok, I just ordered Baratheon starter box and I'm pretty pissed to be honest that the Stannis box is apparently "sold out" which will make it a harder sell to get people I know into the game.

Still, a first step has been taken. Now I just need the Lannister and Stark starter boxes during the summer and I should be able to start playing this. Then me and my group can see if we want to go on or if its a pass from us.
   
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Cyel wrote:
 LunarSol wrote:
I don't hate random charges. It's a somewhat reasonable solution to the issue of binary threat advantage. Having a 1" threat advantage isn't quite as all powerful and in a way I kind of like that. I always thing random charge range coupled with static ranged attack range is a bit weird though.



My main wargame is Warmachine and there threat ranges are static, but the game gives players a deep toolbox of things they can do to lessen the impact of the opponent having a few inches of threat range advantage. Baiting, jamming, sacrificing, redirecting, screening, using terrain, buffing/debuffing, clever scenario play ... all depending on players' decisions and choices. In my opinion it makes for a much more engaging game than a one where you just generate a random number to arbitrarily tell you whether what you are attempting to do makes any sense or not.


Yeah, Warmachine is probably my most played game and I largely agree. I think its threat ranges have gotten a little nutty, but I do really appreciate the ability to position models defensively that most other games simply cannot replicated with more steamlined combat mechanics.
   
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Affton, MO. USA

Some extra work funds came in and my wife said I could splurge. Great timing with the Miniaturemarket’s 15% off sale and the arrival of the Free Folk Heroes 3 box.

Just ordered the rest of the boxes for Free Folk, I’ll pick them up in the morning. Also bought some sterilite totes, magnets and supplies to get them all magnetized.

Hoping to get a game in a couple weeks.

LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13

I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 
   
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Central Valley, California

This game has taken off again in the Central Valley now that a store is supporting it. They are having a good time. I had issues with it, but I think it's truly a fun game.

~ Shrap

Rolling 1's for five decades.
AoS * Konflikt '47 * Conquest Last Argument of Kings * A War Transformed  
   
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Affton, MO. USA

Just played my first game today. Love it. I played Free Folk Raider spam against a solid Watch List and won. I will say that my dice were hot as all get out and he failed a couple critical panic tests. I won the game 2-0 as I killed off two units of his and he killed off two units of insignificance of mine. Also Wun-Wun the Giant was an absolute beast.

I love the tactics cards, NCU board and alternating actions. None of the Warhammer “I go first, so why don’t you sit and eat a pizza while you wait stuff”.

I jumped in and bought Free Folk a couple weeks ago. Another guy played a demo game last week and has his brother buying in as well. Might have tempted another friend into it as well. I was going to get into 30k, but GW has tricked me too many times over the years with the”cheap buy in” but then killing me with codex prices.

LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13

I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 
   
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The free folk Mammoths intrigue me, but I cant find any pictures of the mammoths and giants vs other models to get any sense of scale of them at all!
   
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Central Valley, California

 Gir Spirit Bane wrote:
The free folk Mammoths intrigue me, but I cant find any pictures of the mammoths and giants vs other models to get any sense of scale of them at all!
a friend might be able to snap one for you. What comparison model do you want?

~ Shrap

Rolling 1's for five decades.
AoS * Konflikt '47 * Conquest Last Argument of Kings * A War Transformed  
   
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Central Valley, California

Last Tuesday:


~ Shrap

Rolling 1's for five decades.
AoS * Konflikt '47 * Conquest Last Argument of Kings * A War Transformed  
   
 
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