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 Gallahad wrote:

warboss wrote:I did read in this thread that the newer figs are better in terms of detail/sculpt quality than the older ones. Are they at the point in the lifecycle of the game where they've mentioned redoing some of the initial kickstarter releases?

They redid most of the initial Stark v Lannister set, so new Stark Sworn Swords and Umber Berserkers and Lannister Guardsmen and Halberdiers. No mention of anything else getting redone. The original Bolton stuff is very nice and doesn't need any redoing. I also think the original Lannister stuff was nice as it was, if maybe just a little boring. I find them very enjoyable to paint.

Thanks! Have folks posted comparison pics? The Umber berserkers coincidently were one of the units I was interested in and a quick image search doesn't reveal any before and after pics that I can find nor any difference that I can tell at least.

I can get you some comparison pics maybe next week.

 Gallahad wrote:
I can get you some comparison pics maybe next week.

Of the Umber Berserkers or the initial releases in general? Regardless, thanks and I appreciate it! I've been clueless to their resculpting all this time so no rush and whenever you get the free time. Would you in the meantime personally say the difference is noticeable?

Fantastic job on the Mountain who Rides Gallahad! Sure that looks a fearsome miniature indeed on the tabletop.

I am just coming up to the end of another project so now looking for the next one. They take me years to get through so has to be carefully considered

My current shortlist is: 1) The ASOIAF Stark & Lannister starter set. 2) Fallout (probably Raiders and should be a small miniature count, but I have some terrain so it could escalate) 3) Age of Darkness/Horus Heresy. Was really getting into the idea of this, but the pretty soul-less AoD rulebook and the fact my project I am just finishing is pre-heresy related has knocked the wind out of my sails a bit.

Is it possible to dabble with ASOIAF and throw some minis down on the table, or is it an Infinity/Necromunda-type game where you have to live and breathe the game to get the most out of it?

Umber Berserkers
Left to right alternates Old, New, Old, New, Etc.



Sworn Swords with GW chaos guy and painted Umber Berserker.
Alternate New, Old from left to right



I find the new units to be just a tad sharper and more dynamic poses.

I think the old stuff still holds up really well though.




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 Pacific wrote:
Fantastic job on the Mountain who Rides Gallahad! Sure that looks a fearsome miniature indeed on the tabletop.

Is it possible to dabble with ASOIAF and throw some minis down on the table, or is it an Infinity/Necromunda-type game where you have to live and breathe the game to get the most out of it?

Thank you for the kind words! I'm pretty happy with how he turned out. He is very imposing on the tabletop.

I think ASOIAF works great for dabbling. The rules are tight enough to be enjoyable even in casual settings. Easy to learn, hard to master. I play with casuals all the time and have a lot of fun. even though I'm more experienced. They have fun too! I've gotten several people locally into the game after a single intro game.

 Gallahad wrote:
Umber Berserkers
Left to right alternates Old, New, Old, New, Etc.

Spoiler:

Sworn Swords with GW chaos guy and painted Umber Berserker.
Alternate New, Old from left to right

I find the new units to be just a tad sharper and more dynamic poses.

Thanks! This may seem naively stupid on my part but I half expected that they were just tweaking the existing moulds with added detail or using the same sculpt. The details seem crisper/sharper and the sculpts are indeed more dynamic but I think I prefer the originals overall strangely except for one of the figs (top picture, last on the right). Are these only in the new starter or are the booster boxes of just the unit being redone with the new sculpts?

The new sculpts are only in the starter. Booster boxes are old sculpts. Glad the pics helped.

Solid paintjob on that Khorne Reaver!

Patiently waiting for the White Walkers/Others to get some mini's...

edit: I think someone said previously that they are still a ways away, as the game is built around the books where they haven't appeared in full force just yet. Its just my excuse to not dive into this game, as I don't have the time. Really like watching the batreps on youtube when I'm not watching AoS content.

 Gallahad wrote:


Thank you for the kind words! I'm pretty happy with how he turned out. He is very imposing on the tabletop.

I think ASOIAF works great for dabbling. The rules are tight enough to be enjoyable even in casual settings. Easy to learn, hard to master. I play with casuals all the time and have a lot of fun. even though I'm more experienced. They have fun too! I've gotten several people locally into the game after a single intro game.

Thanks Gallahad, that's really good to know. I had joined some of the ASOIF Facebook groups and I'll be honest got disenchanted a little by all of the 'chasing the Meta' type videos being posted on there. I have no desire to treat the game as though I'm taking part in a professional sport, so I'm glad the game is playable at a more casual level.

 Pacific wrote:

 Gallahad wrote:


Thank you for the kind words! I'm pretty happy with how he turned out. He is very imposing on the tabletop.

I think ASOIAF works great for dabbling. The rules are tight enough to be enjoyable even in casual settings. Easy to learn, hard to master. I play with casuals all the time and have a lot of fun. even though I'm more experienced. They have fun too! I've gotten several people locally into the game after a single intro game.

Thanks Gallahad, that's really good to know. I had joined some of the ASOIF Facebook groups and I'll be honest got disenchanted a little by all of the 'chasing the Meta' type videos being posted on there. I have no desire to treat the game as though I'm taking part in a professional sport, so I'm glad the game is playable at a more casual level.

Kind of the boat I’m in. A group of us have been playing at the miniature market retail store for months and now they (Miniaturemarket and some new guys) want to start a league this Saturday. I liked the casual games, but some of the new guys came in from 40K and the vibe I get is win at all cost. I have not joined yet, mainly because of family obligations and cannot guarantee being able to play every week. While we do play to win, we also do like trying lists that are thematically fun. All Berserkers, all Cavalry or favorite characters. Facebook is Facebook, no matter what you call it. I just dropped the stark ASOIAF group as it was so slow with the few posts only being welcome the new guys and how do I win with stark?

 nels1031 wrote:
Solid paintjob on that Khorne Reaver!

Patiently waiting for the White Walkers/Others to get some mini's...

edit: I think someone said previously that they are still a ways away, as the game is built around the books where they haven't appeared in full force just yet. Its just my excuse to not dive into this game, as I don't have the time. Really like watching the batreps on youtube when I'm not watching AoS content.

Thank you!

I think the Others getting released depends entirely on if George releases the next book, which seems very unlikely.

That being said, the game itself is great. Best game I've played bar none.

And if you really really want an Others army, there are people on the community who have created custom stats... but really for very casual play, as they are pretty tricky to balance.

My friend is blowing up my phone with info from a live stream about new rules update. All will be available on the 28th of this month.

Lannister Halbediers going to 5 points.
War Cry gives either Vulnerable OR Panicked.
Outflanked does not need someone taking the horses now, the unit comes on at the start of the round.

We just started a league at Miniature Market with the kick-off last Saturday. I think my Greyjoys may be using that outflank a bit more. Victarion outflanking in the side...yes please.

Ha! My Stark buddy is absolutely gutted about changes to WarCry and Hardened..I think they are good changes overall but do hope the Starks and Greyjoys get some buffs.

I'm excited to see the full set on the 28th.

 Gallahad wrote:
Ha! My Stark buddy is absolutely gutted about changes to WarCry and Hardened..I think they are good changes overall but do hope the Starks and Greyjoys get some buffs.

I'm excited to see the full set on the 28th.

The points adjustments will be important for this update. I’d like to unshelve my Starks and see more Greyjoy love as well. Think the outflank will help both armies. I’m. Hoping for some Baratheon Nerfing as well.

Yeah, Outflank is going to be great now. You can really throw off the tempo of first player by forcing them to either take the horse or get charged in the rear...

Very powerful. Hrakkars and NW Ranger Vanguard looking very good. Will definitely be a buff to Greyjoys.

 Gallahad wrote:
Yeah, Outflank is going to be great now. You can really throw off the tempo of first player by forcing them to either take the horse or get charged in the rear...

Very powerful. Hrakkars and NW Ranger Vanguard looking very good. Will definitely be a buff to Greyjoys.

My Greyjoy can place half on the board, bring half in on a flank and in games where your trying to grab objectives that can be great. Set up heavy right with your reserves off the board, what does the opponent do? does he come at that group hard and leave the other side open? does he split which could let you bring all on the right to sweep his spread out forces off the table....Fun. It's what I don't see in GW games anymore.

 Theophony wrote:

 Gallahad wrote:
Yeah, Outflank is going to be great now. You can really throw off the tempo of first player by forcing them to either take the horse or get charged in the rear...

Very powerful. Hrakkars and NW Ranger Vanguard looking very good. Will definitely be a buff to Greyjoys.

My Greyjoy can place half on the board, bring half in on a flank and in games where your trying to grab objectives that can be great. Set up heavy right with your reserves off the board, what does the opponent do? does he come at that group hard and leave the other side open? does he split which could let you bring all on the right to sweep his spread out forces off the table....Fun. It's what I don't see in GW games anymore.

I think the wording of the ability only lets you bring in one unit from reserve per round, so probably no more than two per game. And I guess two units would be roughly half your army in a 40pt game!

Still, it is definitely going to be fun!

 Gallahad wrote:

 Theophony wrote:

 Gallahad wrote:
Yeah, Outflank is going to be great now. You can really throw off the tempo of first player by forcing them to either take the horse or get charged in the rear...

Very powerful. Hrakkars and NW Ranger Vanguard looking very good. Will definitely be a buff to Greyjoys.

My Greyjoy can place half on the board, bring half in on a flank and in games where your trying to grab objectives that can be great. Set up heavy right with your reserves off the board, what does the opponent do? does he come at that group hard and leave the other side open? does he split which could let you bring all on the right to sweep his spread out forces off the table....Fun. It's what I don't see in GW games anymore.

I think the wording of the ability only lets you bring in one unit from reserve per round, so probably no more than two per game. And I guess two units would be roughly half your army in a 40pt game!

Still, it is definitely going to be fun!

Well, just under an hour till they release the update. Hopefully some choice changes that I can implement for this weekend to get my Greyjoy doing some harm in out league. Lost my first game vs. freefolk 10 to 5.

Just curious if anyone has tried converting ASOIAF figures. I'm considering getting the Varamyr Sixskins pack and was wondering if it's possible to non-destructively remove the figure from the bear mount for use on another mount potentially. I don't know how strong the glue is or even if it'll be possible (is his lower half the same mould/piece as the bear or is his body glued to the bear's saddle instead?). I looked online for videos and pics of unboxing but haven't found any (admittedly my google-fu can be weak though) so I figured I'd ask here if anyone has the fig and, if so, how was it sculpted/cast/preassembled. Also, has anyone tried to detach preassembled parts and, if so, how did you successfully do it or unsuccessfully fail with a particular method. Thanks in advance!

I'm 95% certain that varamyr's legs are molded with the bear body but I can check tonight.

That being said, a I've done a ton of conversions with ASOIAF miniatures. I find them very easy to work with.

They are cast in two types of plastic: ABS for the weapons, shields and some arms. And PVC for everything else.

The ABS parts are generally glued with super glue to PVC parts. They can be snipped off or you can leave the minis in the freezer and the glue becomes brittle and sometimes the ABS parts can just be broken off at the joins.

Once the ABS parts are removed I use a heat gun to heat up the PVC at which point it becomes very easy to cut and even can be slightly reposed.

Thanks. I appreciate the info and you looking to see how the mini is assembled. Varamyr is definitely a great stand-in for an RPG druid.

New pics have popped up on facebook showing the next releases.

House Bolton is getting a starter set with new models including some great looking archers. Dice are pink and red. Hopefully they get the Stormcrow treatment where they get their own unit cards, but still get Neutrals. Supposedly the models in the starter box are not the current models, possibly redone cutthroats.

Also Martell Heroes box #2 previewed.

I don't have a Facebook account any longer but the idea of a House Bolton starter set and all sounds very good.

Got the Targaryen Starter set headed my way, for delivery tomorrow!

Does the plastic of these figures work well with GW Primer/Contrast?

Will I need anything else to play? Anything that I might be in danger of buying that could be outdated?

I joined a couple ASOIAF facebook groups, but I’d love some recommendations on other websites.

 nels1031 wrote:
Got the Targaryen Starter set headed my way, for delivery tomorrow!

Does the plastic of these figures work well with GW Primer/Contrast?

Will I need anything else to play? Anything that I might be in danger of buying that could be outdated?

I joined a couple ASOIAF facebook groups, but I’d love some recommendations on other websites.

Take what I say with a grain of salt as I've yet to start playing this game as I'm recovering from an accident. And that recovering is sloooooow...

But from what I know you only need an opponent with an army to start playing. Everything else from measure stuff, to cards, to die and so on should be in the starter set.

One thing that might be useful is the app "War Council". To my understanding the rules as seen on the cards for the units are not to seldom updated and that update is found in said app which allows the current rule set to be used with the models that you have bought. Hence you can almost count on that the physical cards you get with the models to be outdated, but you can without cost get the current rules from the app.

The plastic takes contrast well.



In the starter box, you've got all material you need to play, but ...

the cards will be outdated, the update packs currently in stores are also outdated, so do not buy them. The current version is 2021-S02 the newest one in the stores is 2021-S01.

The current revision of cards can be downloaded from the cmon website. Print them and put them in card sleeves, use the original cards for backing.
During play you must have only the Tactic Cards and probably mission/objective cards (m/o cards should be ok, if you have a box with a rule book marked 2021).

You do not need the unit cards to play. They are only for convenience. The War Council App is always up to date and has a good army builder. You can print the army list from within the app and the printout will have all information, you would find on the unit cards.

Have fun.

PS.
There are some battle reports on youtube. You should restrict yourself to the last 3 month or so, so that they use 2021-S02 rules.
They are a bit boring, especially if you are not familiar with the game. After a while they may grow on you and you will learn what parts to skip.

Those look good Brumbaer. I can attest to using contrast/speed paints too, they work fine.
Actually if you scroll back through this thread a few pages there are some great examples and recipes by a few of the posters.

Thanks dudes!

I didn't get my scheduled game in last week, too much family stuff happening for the July 4th week/weekend.

I have gotten a few Dothraki painted up, as well as some Neutral Heroes Box 1 and Lannister Heroes box 1 mostly painted up.

Have finally finished a unit off for this game! A Stark Sworn Swords unit. Many thanks to Cyel earlier on in this thread for the Contrast Paints recipe - the tabards, wood and skin are contrast, while I've used conventional paints for the metals and leathers.

Next up - something else from the 100 or so minis left over in the starter box, hopefully it will take a bit less time to get to than these (2 years!)

I see I have managed to get another unit completed in less than a month after my last unit post, which isn't bad for my usual glacial painting speed! This is just a unit of Lannister Guardsmen. I've tried to use a few more brighter and bolder colours compared to the Starks, and also a lighter base with less mud and more brighter/spring colours. Next up a Stark Unit, have to see what else there is amongst the rest of the box set