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I can't imagine there's much in the way of backstock on Genestealers at the moment anyway, they've been one of the best unit choices for both GSC and Tyranids this edition.

Not that it really matters. Old models are obvious choice for discount sets and new version coming up is if anything incentive to put old version...Sell 'em old, then get them buy new one as well.

Honestly if they just replaced the current stealers with the space hulk monoposes they'd be better looking models. Even if they're "monopose" they have vastly more variety in poses than the "multipart" kit they currently have.

the_scotsman wrote:
Honestly if they just replaced the current stealers with the space hulk monoposes they'd be better looking models. Even if they're "monopose" they have vastly more variety in poses than the "multipart" kit they currently have.

Yea I use my space hulk stealers, they are the best looking ones in the lot.


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 luke1705 wrote:
I’m wary of these blip rumors. While thematically I love the throwback reference to space hulk, and it lends itself immediately to some quick, relatively easy, and amazingly cool conversions, I think it has the power to be either very good or very turn dependent like the old alpha legion infiltrate. Going first? Awesome! Not going first? Hurtful. I can just see gungline armies running up and exposing whatever unit is there and then that unit just getting shot to all hell.

Not really the “we’ve been planning this revolution for 200 years” kind of feel IMO. But to be fair, it could work and I hope to the sweet baby Jesus that these bikes work. Also that the cult chimera goes down in cost to mirror the IG one

Edit: I also already know that this is going to be my big project army for 2019. There’s a decent chance that I’ll use the robotic ambulls as aberrrants.....so that’s a chunk of change right there if I run the 20 aberrants that I’m likely to run

I am also a bit worried about the blips. Seems like a lot of book keeping across a ton of units unless they let you chose which unit is where at the moment you reveal, which could be too good. IDK, we will see.

As for the ambots, I think they would make pretty dope Abomanants actually, I don't think entire units would look as cool as just a couple of these with really good stats.

Also, aberrants are so good right now because everything else is over priced. There will be less need to take so many when the book comes out unless they botch it pretty bad.

I thought the blip rumour had been thoroughly scotched?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I thought the blip rumour had been thoroughly scotched?

The blip rumor was from the first batch on here, from people at the event. The fake rumors then expanded on them. I am still wary about them but they are definitely still on the table.

Ah fair enough My mistake.

Here's a question, with the 7(?) new characters, bike/quad kit, and the possible 2 or 3 new kits yet to be revealed, how many dataslates will we have in the codex?

Do you all think that they'll use more Guard units to fill spots in the codex or will they keep the same ones in?

And I think we'll have more characters than actual units

My assumption is that they will include a few more guard units directly in the book, but will get rid of Brood Brothers entirely (as has been rumored).

That would be an interesting move, but hopefully they'll pick entries that supplement the book and not just random units

The blips seem interesting, but I can also see GW being stupid enough to make them very easy to deny, "cannot deploy if an enemy unit is within 9" of them." Then again GSC are the rarest non-FW army on the tabletop so something tells me it'll a while for most people to understand how they work.

I've already resigned myself to the Rough Ride-uhhh, bikes being crap.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Here's a question, with the 7(?) new characters, bike/quad kit, and the possible 2 or 3 new kits yet to be revealed, how many dataslates will we have in the codex?

There's 11 in the Index (15 if you include the Guard stuff), plus the Abominant from Tooth and Claw. The Ork Codex has 47.

I'm going to guess around 25-30 entries for our codex then. 11 from index + 6 new characters + at least 2 new units and then throw in the at least 4 guard units. 25-30 sounds reasonable

In case you guys haven't seen it, these are the only things about our codex that aren't false leaks/speculation/wishlisting to my knowledge:

Most of that is pretty vague unfortunately. That news comes from people who were verified to be at the GW events, who reported it either on Facebook (with photos of them at the event), or on the GSC Discord (also with photos they took at the event).

Right now about 95% of all the GSC codex "rumours" are fakes - I can't actually think of a codex release with a greater number of fake rumours.

That list above doesn't include obvious things we know (or can basically garuntee) already, such as our codex dice and datacards. There's also speculation from the artwork seen in the trailer (such as the "medic's" familiar), or the new Goliath Truck variant, but this isn't concrete.

The list doesn't contain the models we've been confirmed to get (i.e. the ones GW have shown us photos of on their website, such as the "medic", holographic table guy, female magus) because that's agiven.

Interesting compendium, hopefully we start seeing more stuff soon. I can see the blips themselves being in the special edition codex, it would be odd if they were in the standard one

Oh, it's pretty much agiven, but we're also 99.9% likely to see the Warlord Trait "FOCUS OF ADORATION" and the relic "ICON OF THE CULT ASCENDANT" in the codex.

I'm not sure what's going to happen with the "RETURN TO THE SHADOWS" and "METICULOUS UPRISING" stratagems, as they're currently related to the present version of Cult Ambush, which is about to change from a fundamental level.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Interesting compendium, hopefully we start seeing more stuff soon. I can see the blips themselves being in the special edition codex, it would be odd if they were in the standard one

Wouldn't be exceedingly odd, assuming they're as central to the playstyle as it seems.

Fair point there, maybe they'll be sold like the datacards every faction gets

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Interesting compendium, hopefully we start seeing more stuff soon. I can see the blips themselves being in the special edition codex, it would be odd if they were in the standard one

Wouldn't be exceedingly odd, assuming they're as central to the playstyle as it seems.

I don't know if it helps, but we've seen what the codex looks like and the central accessories with it (dice and cards). I'm not sure whether they would have shown the blip markers with the codex if they were coming with the "basic" version.

Also a fair point, guess we won't know until we know.

Could also be that it's not shown because they didn't want to give it away?

Something I noticed in one of the photos someone took at the Open Day:

If we look to the very back of the image, we see a biker with a different scheme - looks to be yellow and blue. There's also a dark purple-ish scheme for another biker in that photo, thanks for pointing that out insaniak.

Does anyone know which Cult this comes from? It'd give us a hint to what one of our subfactions are.

There are apparently six subfactions (as stated at the Open Day), here's a list of the ones we know:

Cult of the Four-Armed Emperor (this is the scheme of the new models we've seen).

Cult of the Pauper Princes (we were told this at the Open Day)

Cult of the Bladed Cog (we were told this at the open day)

A yellow schemed cult (shown in the image above)

A dark purple-ish cult (shown in the image above)

An unknown cult

Both of the bikers at the back are actually different schemes to the ones in front... Can't see much detail on the one on the left, but the base is different to the front guys.

 CaptainBetts wrote:

There are apparently six subfactions (as stated at the Open Day), here's a list of the ones we know:

Cult of the Four-Armed Emperor (this is the scheme of the new models we've seen).

Cult of the Pauper Princes (we were told this at the Open Day)

Cult of the Bladed Cog (we were told this at the open day)

A yellow schemed cult (shown in the image above)

A dark purple-ish cult (shown in the image above)

An unknown cult

Just to add to this, I reckon the last cult we don't know of will be the Cult of the Rusted Claw. A lot (if not most) of GW's GSC are painted in this scheme (if you look in the 7e codex most of the pictures are of Rusted Claw GSC).

The Cult of the Four-Armed Emperor is of course the Cult from Deathwatch: Overkill and are is also the scheme they use for the models they have on the GW store (including the new releases).

Yellow is Sons of Jormungdar (sp?) and I think there was a purple in the cult painting guide. I will have to look to remember the name.

I'm not sure if I've spotted a new model too. I was looking over some of the photos GW had posted about GSC from the open day. I saw it in this photo:

What is there to see? Well, at the very edge of the photo, to the left, we see a wheel on a base.

Now, at first I thought "this is from the quadbike", but then I looked at the quadbike, and there were differences in the wheel's appearance:

Both wheels have concave bits (I'm not sure what the terminology is). The quad bike's wheels, however, has wide and thin concave bits. The other, mystery wheel, only has one type of concave bit. Furthermore, the concave bits do not get wider as as you reach the outside of the wheel, but they do with the quad bike wheels.

It's not the wheel of a bike either - they're far too different. It's not from the goliath, as those wheels are way larger and aren't on a base. What could it be from?

 CaptainBetts wrote:


It's not the wheel of a bike either - they're far too different. It's not from the goliath, as those wheels are way larger and aren't on a base. What could it be from?

It's either a goliath, or a new vehicle. The wheel design is nearly a match

Nice find, definitely suspicious. Maybe we will get to see the full picture this weekend. At least it's my hope we start seeing GSC stuff in more detail this coming week...

 aracersss wrote:

 CaptainBetts wrote:


It's not the wheel of a bike either - they're far too different. It's not from the goliath, as those wheels are way larger and aren't on a base. What could it be from?

It's either a goliath, or a new vehicle. The wheel design is nearly a match

Spoiler:

It's not the Goliath, it has a base.

 aracersss wrote:

 CaptainBetts wrote:


It's not the wheel of a bike either - they're far too different. It's not from the goliath, as those wheels are way larger and aren't on a base. What could it be from?

It's either a goliath, or a new vehicle. The wheel design is nearly a match

Spoiler:

It's on a base, so I don't think it'll be a goliath. Perhaps it might be the new thing we saw in the trailer?

Personally would be confused by a second vehicle when we already have one with two modes, making another one thats small enough to fit on a base is.. interesting, I guess?